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[winsaw]

Good day,

will you please advise me a hosting on which I can store approx. 30GB of emails, and use imap account.
The web page I have is less than 200MB (with some MySQL), so I mostly need it for emails. I see many providers with unlimited disk storage, but does it include e-mails (dreamhost, justhost)?
I may pay no more than 70-80$/year and I am rather willing to buy the account for a long time. It should be a shared hosting, as I do not have any experience with any VPS.

Thank you for your replies

[Deroba]

You could get a low end VPS, for no more than $5/mo and hire some for one time job to configure it.

Own IP, Own resources. Just better from my POV.

[Tinyhostme]

he said he needed sharedhosting, not a vps.

[Corster]

Also I'm assuming its for email not newsletters. Shared hosts might have email limits, just make sure you ask sales. I know Fusemail offers a 100GB mailbox for $2 a month, though I have never used them before.

[Sparrow-Sean]

You could get a low end VPS, for no more than $5/mo and hire some for one time job to configure it.

I assume this be based on the reason you run cheap VPS Hosting options?

The OP DOES NOT need a VPS system and one at $5.00 I would not even consider purchasing it, VPS's unmanaged you can get some great deals and some actual decent ones starting from $30+, a mere $5.00 to myself would be spelling "Distaster"..

If you look over his main post you will notice his needs come somewhat not close enough to needing one.

[Mark Grover]

Originally Posted by Sparrow-Sean

I assume this be based on the reason you run cheap VPS Hosting options?

The OP DOES NOT need a VPS system and one at $5.00 I would not even consider purchasing it, VPS's unmanaged you can get some great deals and some actual decent ones starting from $30+, a mere $5.00 to myself would be spelling "Distaster"..

If you look over his main post you will notice his needs come somewhat not close enough to needing one.

+1

Couldn't agree more. I'm seeing a lot of "cheap" and "budget" VPS providers these days. They are all garbage compared to any decent shared hosting provider in terms of performance.

The only time you should get a VPS that costs less than $20/mo is if you need the VPS environment, otherwise, stick with a well known shared host.

[SnoorkAdvertiser]

Storing 30 GB of emails on shared hosting service may be a little problem. Most shared hosting services have a limit how many emails you can send per hour.

I would recommend contacting each company directly and ask them if they have any limit and if you could store up to 30 GB of mail.

[winsaw]

Originally Posted by SnoorkAdvertiser

(...) Most shared hosting services have a limit how many emails you can send per hour.

To be more precise: I send usually 10-15 e-mails per day, and receive about 20 (+100 of spam). But almost every e-mail has a 30-70MB attachment.
Just to let me know: does such amount of emails (30GB) use a lot % of processor or memory (RAM) to cope with? Where there may be problem for hosting provider? Nowadays I have a hosting with 5GB, where I have to pay additional ~50c per every GB per month, what raises up the costs significantly.
It is not a mailing list/newsgroup or something like that - just a regular mailing account to receive and send necessary e-mails.

[GGWH-James]

Originally Posted by winsaw

To be more precise: I send usually 10-15 e-mails per day, and receive about 20 (+100 of spam). But almost every e-mail has a 30-70MB attachment.
Just to let me know: does such amount of emails (30GB) use a lot % of processor or memory (RAM) to cope with? Where there may be problem for hosting provider? Nowadays I have a hosting with 5GB, where I have to pay additional ~50c per every GB per month, what raises up the costs significantly.
It is not a mailing list/newsgroup or something like that - just a regular mailing account to receive and send necessary e-mails.

Really, your e-mails should count toward your included disk space quota; at least, that is my opinion anyhow. That is what we have always done anyway. For example, if you have a 50GB HDD quota, that's inclusive of files, databases, e-mail, etc.

However, not all hosts operate that way though. There are quite a number of them that will only allot a rather small portion of your disk quota to e-mail, or will have a separate e-mail space quota altogether; charging you for additional e-mail space, even if you have GBs of unused disk space.

You need to check with your prospective host to verify these things prior to signing up with them or you may find some hidden or not-so-hidden fees charged to your account. There are plenty of shared hosts around that do not have separate quotas though and will include your e-mail in your disk quota.

[ldcdc]

Hmm... why don't you just move the emails you want to keep/archive on a local emails folder? Do you really need to be able to access them remotely?

Just to let me know: does such amount of emails (30GB) use a lot % of processor or memory (RAM) to cope with? Where there may be problem for hosting provider?

Given that email was not designed for processing large files, it may be deemed improper use of the service, even if only as an excuse to stop you from using so much space for little money.

[Ixape]

How many emails do you have in the account?

[HostingJuice]

Why someone with 30Gigs of e-mails should pay a VPS and not just go to A Premium hosting provider with a Fast and reliable server?
In the price range he is giving, it is better to use an Hosting Solution.
Just my advice, check for Premium services which do not oversell their Servers.
In the cost of an low end vps on a shared hosting you will get:
A panel (without paying it), backup, faster speeds and uptime.
You will not pay management as it is on your hosting price.

So if you do not have experience with VPS management your solutions are 2.
Managed VPS or High quality Hosting.

As i read you send only 15 mails per day, not that much!
Contact hosting Providers, ask them for solutions and you will find your way.

[KMyers]

Greetings,

One thing I should point out is the performance of IMAP (and just about every protocol) starts to degrade at around the 5 GB mark. You could look into a hosted e-mail provider or even look into Google Hosted Services (http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html) which gives you 25 GB of Storage for $50 per year per user.

[kimper]

Originally Posted by KDisk

Greetings,

One thing I should point out is the performance of IMAP (and just about every protocol) starts to degrade at around the 5 GB mark. You could look into a hosted e-mail provider or even look into Google Hosted Services (http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html) which gives you 25 GB of Storage for $50 per year per user.

Nice idea KDisk.
I recommend this solution two....You should now that Google offer the best email solution, a solution that PERFECTLY meets your needs, servers are configured for emails, there is no limitations....
You can then host your page and your MYSQL database on another webhosting....

[1hsoft]

I cannot quote, but I'm referencing to the Kdisks reply: That's actually absolutely true. On a shared hosting server, the degrade GB Mark can be even much lower than 5GB - something like 1Gb or 2Gb. The problem is usually within I/O IMAP starts generating when it hits certain size, rather than the space used itself.

The problem quoted is present @ google apps services email too. I have several apps accounts, one of my email accounts has >10GB of data in it. And believe me, that same account works like 5 times slower than any other email account I have within google's apps network.

I have 3 recommendations for you:

1) archive the messages you no longer use daily by moving them into a different mailbox. This way you will not be generating a lot of I/O and even so your overall mailbox quota usage is high (~30+ GB?), your active account will be small in size.

2) Look for a premium service, not necessarily a VPS, but something like Semi-Dedicated or Business hosting. Make sure you read the TOS of the host and ask about email limits. You will not be violating any limits of sending/receiving volume, but might hit some inodes limit or disk quota/email quota/imap quota tos limits.

3) Look for a host, that offers dovecot IMAP hosting, rather than Courier or other IMAP daemons. Dovecot is by far the best load handling IMAP daemon I've worked with.

Hope that helps!

Tenko