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[StarfoxZL]

I was simply wondering...what are the advantages of having a unique IP? I know a host that hosts site without a unique IP, but you can still access your site without the www in front.

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[Duster]

There are a few advantages to having a unique IP address, though some people won't have need of one.

Based on my limited experiences, I can tell you some of them. Certain scripts, like some redirect scripts, form mail scripts, and others, can be easier to implement with a dedicated IP address. I've read of others that require one.

A big advantage is when moving to another server, something I've done a couple of times (and will do once more soon). It can take up to two weeks for a change from one server to another to be fully propagated throughout the DNS servers. With a dedicated IP, you can redirect people to the new site and also give them the IP address beforehand so they can access it directly.

There may be other advantages, and these are the only ones I can think of at the moment. It may not be important for you, depending on what programs you use and some other considerations. None of the 20 or so domains I host have their own IP and it doesn't matter to them. It might not to you either.

It has nothing to do with accessing a domain with or without the www.

[This message has been edited by Duster (edited 04-15-2000).]

The more unique ips web hosts use, the less there are for internet users.

Waaah. There are plenty of IP's - trust me. If a host can afford the IP's from arin, then they can provide a better service than a host that can not offer a dedicated IP.

You're quite right when you say there are a lot of ip's. But if hosts would switch to non-ip virtual hosts, then the time between the global switch from IPv4 to IPv6, can be extended by a large amount.

[inwks]

IPv6 is mainly to address all the hardware connecting to the net (fidges, microwaves, TV's, etc. etc.), not websites (although they will use the new standard). The main problem at the moment is that we are running towards the limit as to the number of users who can connect to the web, not the number of sites it can host. It also implements a better security structure not found in IPv4.

[Duster]

John,

With all due respect, your statement has nothing to do with the question at hand. It can be frustrating for some people when they ask a question and the responses go off on a tangent and don's answer their question.

[StarfoxZL]

Thanks Duster!

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[Duster]

You're welcome. Giving additional information is fine, but one shouldn't lose sight answering the question. Without doing that, anything else is useless.

Can I ask a question - what are the disadvantages of not having your own IP address?

[Rietta Solutions]

I cannot think of any disadvantages to having a dedicated IP address.

Best regards,
Frank Rietta



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[Davey]

Starfox,

We give unique IPs to all our clients, and a lot of site owners find it very useful to upload and test their site before their domain is transferred to our servers. I think the old reason of older browsers not supporting HTTP1.1 is virtually obsolete these days, so it makes sense from the webmaster's point of view more than anything else.

If you go with a host that does not give you your own IP address then you are probably (PROBABLY) going with a low-end provider who does not spend money on good servers or support either. Not giving out an IP to each domain seems to be just a way of cutting corners. You wouldn't find any serious business site without it's own IP.

IPv6 is going to happen eventually, and probably the sooner the better.

[AlaskanWolf]

Davey

What clients are you talking about? If you remember, a few months ago you said you have over 1400 clients...which i dont think is true at all. I even put in a serious bid to take over your clients from you, yet you failed to email me with any proof of these clients. I cant see lying to yourself can help you. Yet again, I see 280 other posts that say the same thing. God i wish you were in the USA

Dont worry, it will all get throwing back into your face 10x



Gary

Originally posted by Davey:
Starfox,

We give unique IPs to all our clients, and a lot of site owners find it very useful to upload and test their site before their domain is transferred to our servers. I think the old reason of older browsers not supporting HTTP1.1 is virtually obsolete these days, so it makes sense from the webmaster's point of view more than anything else.

If you go with a host that does not give you your own IP address then you are probably (PROBABLY) going with a low-end provider who does not spend money on good servers or support either. Not giving out an IP to each domain seems to be just a way of cutting corners. You wouldn't find any serious business site without it's own IP.

IPv6 is going to happen eventually, and probably the sooner the better.

[Annette]

Originally posted by Davey:
[B]Starfox,

We give unique IPs to all our clients, and a lot of site owners find it very useful to upload and test their site before their domain is transferred to our servers. I think the old reason of older browsers not supporting HTTP1.1 is virtually obsolete these days, so it makes sense from the webmaster's point of view more than anything else.

If you go with a host that does not give you your own IP address then you are probably (PROBABLY) going with a low-end provider who does not spend money on good servers or support either. Not giving out an IP to each domain seems to be just a way of cutting corners. You wouldn't find any serious business site without it's own IP.
B]

That's crap and you know it. There are tons of good hosts out there who don't give unique IPs to their clients - your-site.com, for example, is one of them. Good reviews, good equipment, good support (unlike yours, I might add). You haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, which is not unusual.

I park the .net equivalents to my .com domains, that is not possible without a dedicated IP.


I recently made a web site for a client that parked 5 domains, and put all of them in the search engines, that isn't possible without an IP.


Also, if someone using that IP spams and gets blocked from forums, chat rooms and search engine submits, then everyone on that IP is screwed and blocked also.


I think some of the people here like Annette are wrong, you want a dedicated IP.


Annette, show me one single big, successful business that doesn't have their own IP, out of the 1000's, surely you can post 1?

Originally posted by Mark Hewitt:
Can I ask a question - what are the disadvantages of not having your own IP address?