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  1. #1
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    Virtualized Game Servers

    Hello,

    I've been planning to sell game servers for a while. But not to sure If it's worth the investment. It would be after all a hobby (to gain experience), rather than a money making venture!

    Here is the server I plan to use:

    Dual QC 2.0Ghz
    16GB FB-DIMM RAM
    3x 500GB RAID5
    4TB Network Transfer/month
    Gigabit Port
    The network is one of the best in the UK. (from what I've read)

    My questions are:
    Firstly, would this machine be suitable for running gameservers on?

    Secondly would Virtualizing this machine be a advantage or disadvantage to the performance?

    Thirdly, what advice would your offer for a beginner in this market?

    Regards,
    Daniel

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    Yes.
    No.

    Spend $ and provide quality services. Use a nice control panel and be knowledgeable about how these game servers work for all games.

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    Yes the computer is fine. I don't know about raid 5 though

    No, becoming would just be splitting the computer into more than one computer. unless your running more than one server i don't suggest it. Even if you are running more than one server i suggest you use a computer for each server as gaming servers have a lot of strain on them.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I've come to the conclusion, visualizing the machine wouldn't be beneficial! Plus I failed to consider how the GameCP control panel would interact with them

    Kind Regards,
    Daniel
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    Virtualization causes overhead so theres no point in doing it if the machines is only hosting game servers. OpenVZ/Virtuozzo has less overhead than Xen/VMWare but it still slows performance over native so its not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zFastDan View Post
    Hello,

    I've been planning to sell game servers for a while. But not to sure If it's worth the investment. It would be after all a hobby (to gain experience), rather than a money making venture!

    Here is the server I plan to use:

    Dual QC 2.0Ghz
    16GB FB-DIMM RAM
    3x 500GB RAID5
    4TB Network Transfer/month
    Gigabit Port
    The network is one of the best in the UK. (from what I've read)

    My questions are:
    Firstly, would this machine be suitable for running gameservers on?

    Secondly would Virtualizing this machine be a advantage or disadvantage to the performance?

    Thirdly, what advice would your offer for a beginner in this market?

    Regards,
    Daniel
    Beastly machine you've got there.

    Like said above, virtualizing would only hinder the performance of the game servers.

    And advice, good luck.

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    Raid 5 is a bottleneck there it should be a Raid 10 array.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave - Just199 View Post
    Raid 5 is a bottleneck there it should be a Raid 10 array.
    Agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave - Just199 View Post
    Raid 5 is a bottleneck there it should be a Raid 10 array.
    Actually I think RAID5 would be fine for game servers. RAID5 has great read performance, but lacks in write performance but I don't see there being much need for high performance writes in game servers, only database hosting and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave - Just199 View Post
    Raid 5 is a bottleneck there it should be a Raid 10 array.
    I agree. RAID5 has slow write performance. Once the server gets busy, RAID5 will be a bottleneck. I always recommend using RAID10 in servers.
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    Raid5 is okay for CS servers. I would, however, suggest raid10.

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    Thanks for the feedback, I've decided to go with Raid 10, after reading up on the subject.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by zFastDan View Post
    Hello,

    I've been planning to sell game servers for a while. But not to sure If it's worth the investment. It would be after all a hobby (to gain experience), rather than a money making venture!

    Here is the server I plan to use:

    Dual QC 2.0Ghz
    16GB FB-DIMM RAM
    3x 500GB RAID5
    4TB Network Transfer/month
    Gigabit Port
    The network is one of the best in the UK. (from what I've read)

    My questions are:
    Firstly, would this machine be suitable for running gameservers on?

    Secondly would Virtualizing this machine be a advantage or disadvantage to the performance?

    Thirdly, what advice would your offer for a beginner in this market?

    Regards,
    Daniel
    are you renting or thinking of buying your own server? if you are buying your own. look into the new opeteron servers eg: 1 12 core 2.0ghz with 12mb cache can take you quite far. and 1 processor is always cheaper than 2. if your thinking of visualizing you can divide in half with 2 hex core or something along those lines.

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    As per the configuration i was ok for the one machine server . but insted RAID5 go for the RAID 10, the advance version.
    please dont go for the virtualization as it causes the overload on the single server

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    In regards to game servers aside from RAM usage they are CPU heavy due to running from userland(ring 3) and having lots of overhead in regards to executing things in kernel(ring 0).
    This is one way that they are CPU intensive only...

    A simple example would be gettimeofday(), the higher frame-rate the server runs at the more this is called up to many thousands of times per second pending number of players, the game itself and such. Running the code from userland causes a delay in regards to getting from ring3 to ring0.

    Basically what I am getting at is that Virtualization is going to have a tremendous performance impact on all of this and their is no reason to involve that technology.

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    Openvz would provide the closest thing to naitive hardware resources however this doesn't mean that you are going to get more power

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