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[entropius]

Do I miss something?

I cannot find hosters, who just provide a V-Server and allow you to run your Virtual Machines.

Where ever I try, I cannot install the VM-Servers into the hosted web servers since their (tweeked) kernels do not allow this.

I can find many hints about how to install webservers on VMware
or VirtualBox, but not the other way around.

What is the reason for this?

[quantumphysics]

What are you trying to do? Run a VPS in a VPS?

[NewFound]

Are you looking for a hosting that offers you hosting like VM ware? I have seen some hosting out there that are virtual machines and you pay as you use them.

These are simply called VPS.

Unless you mean you want to run another Virtual machine on a VPS such as what quantumphysics said..

[Winky]

are you trying to install a virtualization layer on top of an already virtualized VM? you have to either purchase individual VMs, or purchase a physical host in which you can run your own virtual machines.

if you are talking about VMware, what you need is a dedicated ESX host. it's basically a dedicated server, but with the ESX hypervisor running on it, you are allowed to provision many VM instances. in essence, you are creating your own private cloud.

[KMyers]

Hello,

In theory, you should be able to run this under a Xen HVM or Linux-KVM VPS. I would not advise this as you may get terminated for abuse. You would need to setup a dedicated box for this to be honest.

[64bithost]

Originally Posted by KDisk

Hello,

In theory, you should be able to run this under a Xen HVM or Linux-KVM VPS. I would not advise this as you may get terminated for abuse. You would need to setup a dedicated box for this to be honest.

Bumping <-- In theory KDisk is right because the DNS would not resolve to the Provider / Resellers current set of nameservers. Therefore you would have to use their i.p bank and someone else's nameservers.

Installing a second set of VM's on top of an already running VM would cause the kernel to be off set if you used Debian on top of CentOS as an example. This would cause kernel panic at some point. This would get you termininated because of kernel panic...but if you want to screw up your own dedicated server go for it.

[Winky]

Originally Posted by 64bithost

Bumping <-- In theory KDisk is right because the DNS would not resolve to the Provider / Resellers current set of nameservers. Therefore you would have to use their i.p bank and someone else's nameservers.

Installing a second set of VM's on top of an already running VM would cause the kernel to be off set if you used Debian on top of CentOS as an example. This would cause kernel panic at some point. This would get you termininated because of kernel panic...but if you want to screw up your own dedicated server go for it.

even if he got it to work somehow, the performance overhead from the dual virtual translations would be pretty severe

[KMyers]

Originally Posted by Winky

even if he got it to work somehow, the performance overhead from the dual virtual translations would be pretty severe

To clarify, it may be possible, but not be very efficient. You would take 4 virtual cores to mimmic one core.