09-08-2010, 04:28 PM
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For those that have setup OnAPP. What SAN solution are you guys using? We are considering this and wanted to see what might be best to offer.
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09-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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Are you looking to lease servers from providers with SAN or gonna get your own hardware to colo?
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09-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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We are only interested in purchasing our hardware.
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09-08-2010, 04:51 PM
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Maybe you can contact Dell for the Equallogic series.. I've been playing with this hardware and it's very very nice and good priced 
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09-08-2010, 04:53 PM
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We are only interested in purchasing our hardware.
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I haven't implemented on own hardware yet. So no comments
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09-08-2010, 04:55 PM
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We are looking at getting setup once we finish some internal upgrades. If memory serves me right they (OnApp) recommend or at least list Open-E as an option. We are looking at a 2 mirrored X 15 disk arrays with the Open-E hardware card. However, Equallogic seems like an ideal solution as well.
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09-08-2010, 05:51 PM
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yeah, the SAN is absolutely key for a successful implementation of OnApp.
OnApp is 100% agnostic to the choice of SAN's, it works with more or less every SAN out there, but we do have a lot of clients who run's Open-E on their OnApp installations. Open-E does a good job dealing with SAN failover's, it's fairly priced, and easy to install/manage.
But we also have clients using NetApp's, Equallogic's and even EMC's.
You'll need to take a good look at your business model before deciding what SAN is right for you, what target segment you are going after and what level of redundancy and performance your clients are willing to pay for. We've done more than 30 OnApp installs in the last 6 weeks, and we would be happy to take that discussion with you to ensure that your choice of SAN's is fit for purpose.
Btw, we recently took at good look at what the guys at http://www.acunu.com/ are doing - had a chance to meet up with them last week, good ppl. and amazing technology they've build...keep an eye out for them.
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09-08-2010, 05:53 PM
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Ditlev,
What san does VPS.net use?
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09-08-2010, 05:57 PM
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Ditlev,
What san does VPS.net use?
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VPS.NET has more than 100 SAN's live now, and it did cause them a lot of problem initially. They seem to have nailed it now though, and the solution is performing excellent now.
I can't give you details though, sorry - but I'd be happy to discuss your setup with you to make sure you'll get exactly what's right for your client segment.
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09-08-2010, 06:07 PM
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I got a free (with no drives or RAM) HP Proliant ML320s. The one with 12 3.5" bays. Installed openfiler on it and it is running great. I've only done testing from my two windows machines since I don't have the OnApp hardware yet. Cost $226 to get trays from Hong Kong to work with non HP drives.
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09-09-2010, 12:21 AM
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Interesting. We're going through the exact same question right now. We'll likely just use our Dell EQ. But I'm not sure that's the best cost/benefit ratio.
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09-09-2010, 12:44 AM
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We're going to utilize an previous generation EMC array that we have to get us fired off. Expand as much as we can with it; not likely to go to far though. Build a base, bring in some revenue and capital and pick up something more "qualified" for a larger scale deployment. If the EMC holds up, we'll probably pick up a newer EMC array as well.
However we've been looking into things like the NetApp FAS2020 as a decent unit.
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09-09-2010, 01:07 AM
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We're going to utilize an previous generation EMC array that we have to get us fired off. Expand as much as we can with it; not likely to go to far though. Build a base, bring in some revenue and capital and pick up something more "qualified" for a larger scale deployment. If the EMC holds up, we'll probably pick up a newer EMC array as well.
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The EMC CX4-240's are quite affordable and have all the features of a 'modern' san your entry level vps market needs, thin provisioning being a big feature. It's also nice that you have the dual FC/iSCSI.
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09-09-2010, 07:37 AM
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Since onAPP can have multiple data stores, does it load balance which datastore to put the VM on if you have multiple datastores?
Also was wondering what type of raid most people was using for their SANs when using them in a VPS environment. For example what type of raid do the Equalogic boxs use, Raid 6 or Raid 10?
Thanks!
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09-09-2010, 07:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WebGuyz
Since onAPP can have multiple data stores, does it load balance which datastore to put the VM on if you have multiple datastores?
Also was wondering what type of raid most people was using for their SANs when using them in a VPS environment. For example what type of raid do the Equalogic boxs use, Raid 6 or Raid 10?
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Hello, most clients go for RAID5.
I hope that helps.
Anyone need any further questions answered, feel free to get in touch: caroline[@]onapp.com
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