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08-25-2010, 06:29 PM #1Newbie
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Web hosting for students (college level)
I am teaching a series of college level web design class this Fall and am in search of hosts to recommend for students. Up to this point I have been using the University's web services but they have recently become more of a hassle and I feel that it is best to get the students headed in a more professional direction with real world hosting experience.
My requirements are...
500MB–1GB (last years class only used up 1GB as a whole)
at least 2 mySQL databases
cPanel would be preferred
Bandwidth doesn't need to be too excessive, students will mostly be testing and experimenting, I don't foresee any of them driving a large amount of traffic.
Cost effective—this is a public University and I need to be mindful of expenses
As of now I have narrowed it down to either A Small Orange or HawkHost based on the yearly price and overall reviews. I am curious to know if anyone has had experience with either or both A Small Orange or HawkHost. Or, if you have another suggestion please offer it up!
I appreciate any thoughts on the two hosts or any other hosts that you might thing will work. I also plan on setting up with either A Small Orange or HawkHost so that I can walk students through a similar setup.
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08-25-2010, 06:37 PM #2WHT Addict
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Yeah HawkHost would be my choice for that.
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08-25-2010, 06:40 PM #3Private Citizen
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No direct experience, but everybody would high five Tony if they could over at Hawk; if that helps.
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08-25-2010, 06:41 PM #4Junior Guru Wannabe
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Personally, I had a very bad experience with A Small Orange. When I first started, I used **********.com's free webhosting. Then I switched to ASO because my traffic was increasing. ASO quickly suspended me for excessive resource usage. Which was quite ridiculous since ********** never suspended me even though I was on their free service. I expected much more since ASO's prices are very very premium.
You might save money by purchasing a reseller's account for your class.
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08-25-2010, 06:42 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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You may want to contact to some hosts that can sponsor that kind of projects.
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08-25-2010, 06:45 PM #6
I would saw Hawk as well. Are you requiring numerous amount of those accounts you specified or just one? If you need numerous maybe a reseller account would be best therefor you can host multiple websites.
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08-25-2010, 06:47 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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I don't know if this is would work for you, but if multiple students could somehow share a reseller account, that would be the most cost-effective solution.
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08-25-2010, 06:50 PM #8
Well he (the teacher) could have access to the main reseller portion of the account and create numerous accounts for the students. Probably would be the easiest way to go.
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08-25-2010, 06:51 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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I would recommend getting a reseller account and just setting up separate cpanel accounts for each of your class members. Of course this depends on the number of students that you have, but it is fairly easily to create accounts in whm or even scripting it to create the accounts automatically.
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08-25-2010, 06:58 PM #10WHT Addict
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Hell yeah, I'd give Tony a hi-5!
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08-25-2010, 07:52 PM #11Newbie
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Great suggestions!
I am going with HawkHost for both myself and my recommendation towards students, not even sure if I will suggest A Small Orange.. shame because I really like their name but hosting should be picked based on the name of the company.
I love the idea of doing the reseller account but my institution does not allow for students and faculty to be involved in the exchange of money.. we had a faculty member fired for having accepted money for the rental of a piano last year.
I will suggest to the students that they might want to do a shared or reseller account.. might also talk with my student club that I oversee, they might be able to swing the reseller account.. students can take money from students. Although it might be in the students best interest to buy their hosting since the final project in the second semester is a portfolio.
Love to hear other ideas as to how either doing a reseller account or some other situation to help them out with cost.
I am going to contact HawkHost to see if they want to work something special out, would be a good amount of accounts each year.
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08-25-2010, 07:56 PM #12
Good luck with everything.. I really think the reseller account for the students to do between themselves would be most economical. I know thats what a couple institutions do around here for web design classes.
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08-25-2010, 09:03 PM #13Newbie
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I have contacted HawkHost using their ticket system. I suggested some of the ideas discussed here to see if they are interested in working anything out. Regardless, I am going to sign up with them and recommend them to my students as the place to go.. the hosting will only be like %19 and some change using the coupon code that I found on here... that's less then 1 book and will most likely be of greater value come job hunting time.
Thanks again!
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08-25-2010, 09:17 PM #14WHT Addict
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Yeah, HawkHost will probably give a deal they are really nice people.
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08-25-2010, 09:22 PM #15Reseller Hosting Specialist
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Talk to HostDime - they might be willing to offer you free hosting http://www.hostdime.com/why/community-programs/
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08-25-2010, 09:45 PM #16Retired Moderator
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Ask around for students I am sure there would be hosts that would do it for free.
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08-25-2010, 10:12 PM #17Newbie
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I have sent them a proposal, thank you for the suggestion! It will be interesting to see what they say since it doesn't appear that they are accepting applications for their educational plans. I will also still need to pursue HawkHost since many of my students would want to use their hosting for promotional needs.
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08-25-2010, 10:53 PM #18Newbie
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Hawkhost is good, I use it.
Litespeed > Apache, so Hawkhost > ASO.
Trust me, Hawkhost is the last shared hosting provider you will ever need. You can definitely feel the difference in litespeed and the snappiness. I recommend all hosts to offer litespeed.
Plus, the guys at Hawkhost know what they are doing and got perfect plans and prices.
Also, check out http://speedysparrow.com/ (the guy that posted above). They use litespeed and good prices. Never used them, but check 'em out.
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08-25-2010, 11:24 PM #20Newbie
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I looked into speedysparrow but was hopping to say with a US provider, no rational for my decision... maybe it will help our economy?
I don't know a whole lot about Litespeed.. isn't/wasn't there a whole issue surrounding censorship with them?—not that my students, or myself, will be posting illegal or adult themed content.. although I guess I won't really know what my students will be doing outside of the class, I think it is best not to think about that.
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08-25-2010, 11:27 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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08-25-2010, 11:58 PM #22Grand Nagus
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Excellent choice, I'm sure you and your students will be very happy with HawkHost.
You don't have to charge your students anything. Just because it's called a resellers account, doesn't mean you have to actually "resell" anything. You're given a big pizza pie (server resources), how you split up the disk space/bandwidth is up to you. You can use your resellers account to host 1 web site, or 20 smaller web sites. You'll be given access to WHM (web host manager) which is where you create cPanel accounts, you can specify the resources allocated to each domain. So you could pay for the resellers account and give free hosting to your students. Sounds great but there is one catch, you're responsible for their tech support. That is unless you find a web host which offers end user support.
That's a great idea and definitely worth a shot. The worse that can happen is a "no". I would recommend contacting their sales department (sales@hawkhost.com) using your official .edu e-mail address. Assuming your students won't require a lot of tech support, the best solution would be a resellers account with a generous .edu discount.What's your budget?
Seriously, what's your budget?
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08-26-2010, 12:04 AM #23Reseller Hosting Specialist
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08-26-2010, 12:13 AM #24Newbie
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Why didn't I think of that.. just because it is a resellers account, doesn't mean I have to sell anything (had to repeat that so that it would sink into my head). I do agree that this is the best direction BUT the biggest issue is that I would end up funding it and although I love my job and my students I haven't gotten a raise in 4 years... promotions, yes... raises, no. I might try and write for a grant and see if I can obtain funding but that might for for next years group.
I have contacted them, things are looking good. I also contacted 4 others, still waiting for replies.
Thank you for your post, very helpful!
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08-26-2010, 12:24 AM #25Web Hosting Master
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Greetings,
Being a "reseller" does not mean that you would need to actually "sell" the hosting. It offers several advantages such as giving you the option to manage your students web space. You can of course suspend/terminate an account when the student moved on. The student can take a cPanel backup and migrate it to a new host once they are done with your course.
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