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Old 08-06-2010, 03:12 PM
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Wrong/illegal Whois // What to do?


Well, i firstly got the domain a few months back from someone on WHT and i started my own hosting business with the domain...(breezehost.net)

After rocky months i thought i had found a strong business partner...from hostechsupport.com. Name goes by "Navin" & his so called sales assistant "Yogesh". The site was PR4 and i was very neglected when they asked me to transfer domain to there enom account, after rough talks i decided i could trust them. In which 2-3 weeks later, they actually removed my server permission etc. Navin(Removed Server Web Control) and Yogesh(when he was only sales)(he changed root password). I asked why...they said because you didn't transfer WHMCS Owned license to Navin's account. I found this very idiotic and seems like they want to take everything i have from me.

I later said i quit and ofcourse they refused to give my domain back even when i owned 51% of the business. But as it wasn't registered/legal business i couldn't do much so i just moved on.

Now they seem to have edited the WHOIS to my friends information, which it was before when i originally got domain as it was under my friends Namecheap account. I asked 2-3 times to edit it to there own few days back and nothing.

My friend has also emailed Enom, Legal AND Abuse department with no reply. He even included his passport to confirm he is what the WHOIS states. However they have seem to blocked him from editing or transferring the domain but thats it meaning my friends WHOIS is still there.

Does anyone have any advice? What me or my friend can do to try get domain back or atleast get WHOIS information/domain blocked.

Thanks.


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Old 08-06-2010, 08:58 PM
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Your friend can probably try to get your domain back on his account, since the domain was hijacked/stolen and the whois info clearly state before and now that the domain as been owned per your friend from the start.


Who owned the server? you or hostechsupport?

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Old 08-06-2010, 09:04 PM
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WOW? I was actually thinking to join partnership with them too because they've handle support tickets on my company too and it was great. They are one of the oldest outsourced support companies around so most people trust them. I did not know that they are actually doing this..

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Old 08-06-2010, 11:08 PM
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WOW? I was actually thinking to join partnership with them too because they've handle support tickets on my company too and it was great. They are one of the oldest outsourced support companies around so most people trust them. I did not know that they are actually doing this..
Yeah they are quite dirty, they wanted to partner up with me and almost had me going until I read their contract proposal.

The first line states they want to move corporate office to THEIR office. There were also issues such as pretty much handing them the company at which I was not in agreement with.

I also got contacted by two different accounts, Yogesh who claimed to be the CEO and their main account - so whoever is who - I'm confused just as the OP.

All in all do NOT trust them, in fact I highly recommend individuals to partner up and run away from companies.

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Old 08-06-2010, 11:10 PM
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Yeah they are quite dirty, they wanted to partner up with me and almost had me going until I read their contract proposal.

The first line states they want to move corporate office to THEIR office. There were also issues such as pretty much handing them the company at which I was not in agreement with.

I also got contacted by two different accounts, Yogesh who claimed to be the CEO and their main account - so whoever is who - I'm confused just as the OP.

All in all do NOT trust them, in fact I highly recommend individuals to partner up and run away from companies.
Yeah but it is hard to trust an individual rather than company right?

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Old 08-06-2010, 11:18 PM
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Yeah but it is hard to trust an individual rather than company right?
Both can be hard to trust but on partnership valid contract should be signed from both party and intensive research/ID on the partners!

This thread should be moved to a public section due to the fact that many person may use them without knowing how unethical practice they use.

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Old 08-06-2010, 11:21 PM
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Yeah but it is hard to trust an individual rather than company right?
In some ways yes, but individuals are easier to work with than a company.

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Old 08-07-2010, 02:47 AM
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Should really post this in public so people will be warned if they do a search for hostechsupport.com

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Old 08-07-2010, 03:43 AM
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Wow, this sounds like a nightmare. I would recommend calling Enom to get the domain name back. You can usually resolve things pretty quickly with Enom if you call them, based on my experience.

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Old 08-07-2010, 04:47 AM
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Your friend can probably try to get your domain back on his account, since the domain was hijacked/stolen and the whois info clearly state before and now that the domain as been owned per your friend from the start.


Who owned the server? you or hostechsupport?
Maybe we will take higher legal action as high as we can go here in the UK. I'll ring him later and tell him to meet up with me to discuss it.

Server was paid by hostechsupport but we had a partnership meaning it would 50/50 ownership?

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WOW? I was actually thinking to join partnership with them too because they've handle support tickets on my company too and it was great. They are one of the oldest outsourced support companies around so most people trust them. I did not know that they are actually doing this..
Yeah i warned someone else just on time about joining them, there support is terribe IMO. I choose hostechsupport cause of the "24x7 support" but they assign ONE so called "tech" and all he does is reply to ticket saying our main management will contact you so this is me or yogesh whoever replies first since Navin just seems to manage the money and not get into the business at all


I've requested this topic to be moved in public.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:14 AM
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I hope that you get this resolved in your favor and that you learn from this mistake.

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In some ways yes, but individuals are easier to work with than a company.
I agree.

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Old 08-07-2010, 07:07 AM
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I've requested this topic to be moved in public.
And so it be

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Old 08-07-2010, 11:27 AM
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And so it be
Thanks.

I welcome any advice that'll help resolve this issue

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Old 08-07-2010, 02:58 PM
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Thanks all for your comments, My team will address you shortly with this once things are cleared from Mr.Yogesh Palaskar who is real owner of breezehost.net. To be clear on my side those who have any questions or doubt, i request them to check all the posts which my team would be posting in short time which will bring forth clear picture of Mr.Kishan. He is a guy who is busy in education and could not run a company having 25 clients. I want to ask Mr. Kishan few questions:

1. Where was he when his clients were posting and asking for him all over the forums?
2. Who invested in the company again?
3. Who offered 3 months free hosting to all the clients he verified?
4. Who was handling his support in his absence?
5. Who was offering him 24x7 support free of cost?

It was only & only Mr.Yogesh who trusted him and desired that he should stand again on his feet and walk on the path of success along with him.But it was Kishan's mistake of not trusting others.

Hostech Support has just helped him always. When he was owner we offered him support but as his exams came over and we asked him to show trust in us he denied. And this resulted in failure of his company as he was not online and failed to pay the DC and other bills for server etc...

Later on he approached us to partner with his company and we decided to be mediator for him and got him introduced with Mr.Yogesh who is already running his other hosting company. Things started good but yogesh started noticing that kishan did not have much time to boost up sales and handle other things. Thats the reason yogesh asked me to talk to him and make him understand that it was necessary to have whmcs registrant contact as mine or his.Mr.Kishan again denied for this.

Now i ask you all that keep yourself as yogesh and then think, If you are investing in a company which is not more than corrupt brand name and you invest in that, will you not be willing to have all the access with you?
Mr.Kishan was appointed for role of sales and he failed to do that.

He himself have agreed on this part and announced here itself on WHT about this.Check out for his statement "I will still be working with BreezeHost but i am not the owner nor manager. Will be just helping out in the Sales & Marketing area." at following URL:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hlight=CKGroup

Keep watching for more on this when my team posts. In mean time if anyone has any queries you can visit our site at http://hostechsupport.com and ask for my private messenger id's, I will be happy to answer you all.


FYI: Hostech Support is partnerised with 43 small and big hosts and no one has such issues with us uptill today.Though we cannot disclose the name as we have a trustworthy relationship between us and the companies.


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Old 08-07-2010, 03:10 PM
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What has this thread got to do with me? Your hostaging a domain with incorrect whois information which is illegal.

Why was BreezeHost using MY WHMCS license and why did you want it if i was just sales? I still have proof that the WHMCS license was activated on BreezeHost

I dealed with you, i have the logs of Yahoo and MSN that you was the partner with me NOT Yogesh. So you lied there.
if WHT Mod's want feel free to request these convo's as i log all my IM conversations.

Your idiotic questions answered:

1. Where was he when his clients were posting and asking for him all over the forums? I was here and i answered the questions

2. Who invested in the company again? Investment as a partnership

3. Who offered 3 months free hosting to all the clients he verified? So what does this prove?

4. Who was handling his support in his absence? Support = replying to tickets saying higher management will reply?

5. Who was offering him 24x7 support free of cost? What does this prove? It was part of the partnership deal and i wouldn't call it 24x7 support i would rather say Automated Message stating that higher management will reply back. I still have the emails when new ticket response were added from staff and clients.

Once again i have all the conversations(MSN & Yahoo), every word that we ever spoke to Yogesh and Navin.

EDIT: Will post them soon to the public.


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