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07-31-2010, 02:27 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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Shawn Hogan aka the owner of Digitalpoint indicted for cookie stuffing
http://www.revenews.com/kelliesteven...okie-stuffing/
Justia Link from 2008: http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cal...v04052/206526/
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07-31-2010, 02:30 AM #2Dungeon Monster
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Shawn Hogan is a great person, he is always nice and responsive to me on the forums. I wish him luck!
The possibility of 20 years in prison is just horrible for something as little as cookie stuffing.Last edited by Chris Miller; 07-31-2010 at 02:40 AM.
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07-31-2010, 06:32 AM #3Backup Master
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Cookie stuffing is fraud, they were scamming ebay over Millions so I think it's just right to take them to court.
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07-31-2010, 07:59 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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$15.5 million is not just a little cookie stuffing.
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07-31-2010, 08:36 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Nothing of value will be lost here. DP is an internet wasteland.
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Which is why i hate visiting the DigitalPoint forums, It's full of Adsense and advertisements. It's an affiliate freak fest.
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07-31-2010, 09:32 AM #9SimpleSonic - We Make Fast... Easy!
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07-31-2010, 09:43 AM #10Danananana Danananana Batman!
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This is kind of old news is it not?
He got brought up on these charges over 2 years ago?Not sure what to put here :-P
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07-31-2010, 02:47 PM #13Dungeon Monster
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Shawn cleared up that it was not all just from cookie stuffing and that is not even a large portion of it he said there is some other stuff in the compliant.
Source: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...2#post14685461
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07-31-2010, 04:26 PM #14Web Hosting Evangelist
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That's crazy and highly suspicious.. top 2 in the company are top 2 eBay affiliates..?
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07-31-2010, 04:35 PM #15Newbie
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$15.5 Million... Ouch.
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07-31-2010, 05:28 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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07-31-2010, 05:49 PM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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07-31-2010, 06:08 PM #18Big fan of RajiniKanth!!!
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07-31-2010, 06:09 PM #19WHT Addict
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agreed. i stopped visiting that place quite sometime ago
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07-31-2010, 11:49 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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No matter what Shawn Hogan says on DP it won't be "cleared up" until after all legal proceedings are finalized.
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Criminal Charges Filed
On June 24, 2010, two separate indictments were handed down by a grand jury in California against Shawn Hogan (pdf) and Brian Dunning (pdf) following an FBI investigation by the Cyber Crimes Department. The indictments charge Hogan and Dunning with wire fraud and criminal forfeiture. Hogan was charged with ten counts of wire fraud and Dunning with five counts of wire fraud.
On July 22, 2010, Hogan and Dunning appeared before the court. Both were released under a $100,000 property bond and surrendering their passports. Both Hogan and Dunning entered not guilty pleas. Hogan’s next court date is September 9, 2010 and Dunning’s is August 19, 2010.
According to court documents, the maximum penalty in both cases is:
- Imprisonment of 20 years
- Maximum fine of $250,000 or twice the gross gain/loss (whichever is greater)
- 3 years of supervised release
- $100 special assessment (per count)
The indictments parallel the eBay civil suit, accusing the affiliates of engaging in hidden forced clicks within the eBay affiliate program.
For years cookie stuffing techniques have been discussed and debated in the affiliate marketing world. I’ve seen a rather casual attitude taken by some regarding the practice. I’ve seen long debates about what constitutes a physical click by the end user. I’ve seen black hat techniques for cookie stuffing and hiding the behavior discussed publicly. For me, one striking point with the indictments is that the FBI and a grand jury were evidently able to grasp technical aspects of affiliate marketing and tracking, and ultimately arrived at the conclusion that the tactics were criminal in nature.
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08-01-2010, 12:11 AM #21Web Hosting Evangelist
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If he really did make 15.5 million solely from eBay affiliates. I'm sure he can get himself a pretty good lawyer.
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08-02-2010, 03:10 PM #22Dungeon Monster
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Shawn Posted a blog summarizing how this all got started over here. http://blogs.digitalpoint.com/entry.php?b=215
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