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Old 06-25-2010, 12:39 PM
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Apple responds to iPhone 4 reception issues: you're holding the phone the wrong way


http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/a...re-holding-th/

Funny Got an iPhone 4? Better spend an extra $30 on a case to fix the issue apparently, which is a rip off in my opinion.

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Old 06-25-2010, 12:50 PM
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It's crazy that Apple are trying to get away with this. You would think that they would have tested this considering the antenna is around the phone itself.

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Old 06-25-2010, 01:01 PM
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What a fustercluck from Apple. Design the antenna in such a way that holding the damn phone restricts signal strength, and the only way to prevent this is using some kind of Vulcan phone grip.

It's hard to believe they could do something so incredibly stupid and utterly moronic such as this, to their premier device.

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Old 06-25-2010, 01:23 PM
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What a fustercluck from Apple. Design the antenna in such a way that holding the damn phone restricts signal strength, and the only way to prevent this is using some kind of Vulcan phone grip.

It's hard to believe they could do something so incredibly stupid and utterly moronic such as this, to their premier device.
Now they will release iPhone 4GS... which fixes this issue.

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Old 06-25-2010, 03:59 PM
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Welcome back Bob, you've been MIA for the past 2 weeks or so

It looks like Apple knew about the issue that's why they had the case accessory ready to go as soon as the buyers figured it out.

Comparing 3GS and iPhone 4 signal strength, looks like iPhone 4 is really lacking reception quality even when you are not holding the phone at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03PQyWp0mWE

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Old 06-25-2010, 06:03 PM
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Wow, daylight robbery. I think I'll wait before I take the plunge.

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Old 06-25-2010, 06:04 PM
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Welcome back Bob, you've been MIA for the past 2 weeks or so

It looks like Apple knew about the issue that's why they had the case accessory ready to go as soon as the buyers figured it out.

Comparing 3GS and iPhone 4 signal strength, looks like iPhone 4 is really lacking reception quality even when you are not holding the phone at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03PQyWp0mWE
Wow, it's hard to argue with that video...nice demonstration.

So it seems this new antenna design that was marketed as being an improvement, isn't really one at all. It's too bad for all the 600,000 who preordered this thing But I guess that is the risk early adopters take.

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Old 06-25-2010, 07:30 PM
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Wow, it's hard to argue with that video...nice demonstration.

So it seems this new antenna design that was marketed as being an improvement, isn't really one at all. It's too bad for all the 600,000 who preordered this thing But I guess that is the risk early adopters take.
I can also attest to the fact I get worse service on my iPhone 4. Overall though I still like it and have little/no regrets waiting in line for 5.5 hrs.

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Old 06-25-2010, 09:32 PM
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Apparently "StealthArmor" fixes this -

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/06/st...a-bumper-case/

Still, it shouldn't be needed, but it's good to protect your phone if you're not using a case. I have my iPhone 3G in a leather case, that's also my wallet, so it's a non issue for me as I won't be touching the phone's side with my bare hand, which from what I'm reading, is the cause of the network signal issues.

Covering the antenna on any phone will degrade network performance. I can replicate this on my iPhone 3G and my old I-mate JasJam. But this could be more of an issue on the iPhone4, given it's antenna design built into the actual frame, which I thought was quite intriguing.

I've also got a feeling this is going to be less of an issue in Australia on the Telstra network, as to compared to in America on the AT&T network. Will be interesting to see if the first users in Australia have the same problems as those in America.

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Old 06-25-2010, 09:34 PM
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Welcome back Bob, you've been MIA for the past 2 weeks or so
I'm not online all that much these days, and I've been more active in another forum too, so that takes up my time. Only so many hours to go around.

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Old 06-25-2010, 11:21 PM
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I heard about this, tested it and its confirmed. But I believe him when he says that all phones have them...its only true.

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Old 06-26-2010, 01:08 AM
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Daniel Dilger tweeted this -

"Blocking iPhone 4 antenna kills reception. Blocking mic kills audio, and covering the screen makes it impossible to see Retina Display".

Smart ar$e

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Old 06-26-2010, 01:10 AM
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Posted this in the other thread, but there could be a software fix to this -

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._ios_4_01.html

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The fix is expected to address a issue in iOS 4 related to radio frequency calibration of the baseband. Readers who saw the original forum discussions say that the issue is believed to occur when switching frequencies; because the lag is allegedly not calibrated correctly, it results in the device reporting "no service" rather than switching to the frequency with the best signal to noise ratio.

iOS 4 introduced some enhancements to how the baseband selects which frequencies to use, so it makes sense that the error may have crept into those changes. Additionally, this explains why iOS 4 has also caused similar problems for iPhone 3GS users.
I'll believe that when I see it.

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Old 06-26-2010, 01:35 AM
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This is a really wrong doing on Apples part.
Mistakes do happen but they should have handled it better.
Saying that you are holding the phone wrong is not a answer to get away with!

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Old 06-26-2010, 09:27 AM
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Daniel Dilger tweeted this -

"Blocking iPhone 4 antenna kills reception. Blocking mic kills audio, and covering the screen makes it impossible to see Retina Display".

Smart ar$e
Next Apple will mandate that you can only use it with pre-approved facial gestures.


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