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Old 06-12-2010, 09:38 AM
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GSP-thinking of making one


i am thinking of starting a GSP my main objective for the GSP,is to 1st provide good service, as i have a already established clientèle and interests regarding it. why i want to make a GSP with no knowledge simply because my current GSP was willing to help me, not to sell servers but to just guinenly help me out with colocation tcadmin and everything else, but in the end he deleted the records of the conversation of him mentioning helping me. so im embarking upon this journey alone.
i know age is a major down factor, and in some of the post ur disgust to whining customers and teenagers. as i am inexperienced therefore any advice will be heeded upon. i know about the 24/7 support issues. and i have found a cure to it. email driven support which i can access via from my phone.
i have searched the internet for game panel's and read the other posts/threads and have come to the conclusion that its either tcadmin or gamepanel. however there is a free version game create. but how do i install it on my server, how would i run the website off my server, and how would i integrate the game panel onto the website. im willing to pay for your time. so far all i have got so far is www.laggkillers.co.cc and i have accidently made a release date for the servers to be created, therefore the final version of the website and other thing's associated will have to be done asap. its true that every hour more and more gsp start up. and finding the niche market to compete is the more difficult task. therefore i have found my niche market which is medal of honor allied assault spearhead. i know its a dying game but there are very many clans looking to buy servers simply because as its a older game alot more moddifications available. and most gsp have ignored that medal of honor still has a good clientèle.

thats what i am looking to do, i know there is alot of risks involved but any help and advice would be apreciated. and if u can make the website and explain how will i run the website off my server which is window's 2008. and finally dies the option for ip addresses get automatically configured or you have to manually configure it for the ip addresses. so before and after support is needed which would be payed for. if you can contact me how much it would cost for ur time it would be much appreciated.



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Old 06-12-2010, 10:46 AM
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I think you're going to have to get a more professional looking website to appeal to customers ;-)

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Old 06-12-2010, 12:01 PM
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true. i need to be 7 days from the registration date to request for somecoder to sort out the website :p

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Old 06-12-2010, 12:17 PM
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A new site is a must. Make sure you know you won't get big right away and it's going to take a ton of time and effort.

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Old 06-12-2010, 01:48 PM
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I'll be honest, 1st off you say here you are thinking of starting a GSP, however you are already trying to take pre-orders on your site, which does look a bit amateur and the grammer could do with being sorted out as well

You say you will cover support via your phone, but in this industry you need *true* 24/7 support, which costs money, you can always look to outsource for your off peak hours, i.e. the 8 hours you'll be asleep(!)

The niche you are attempting here is good, but to be blunt you need to do ALOT more research before even thinking about taking pre-orders as, in all likely hood, you won't be able to deliver meaning lost customers and maybe even a bad name from the start

My advice: remove the pre-orders from the site, get the knowledge and support behind you, then go for it. Until you have the compelete network of what is needed to set-up and run a GSP you won't last long at all, sorry to be blunt

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Old 06-12-2010, 01:48 PM
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im sure it would be all worth it in the end.

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Old 06-12-2010, 04:50 PM
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I'll be honest, 1st off you say here you are thinking of starting a GSP, however you are already trying to take pre-orders on your site, which does look a bit amateur and the grammer could do with being sorted out as well

You say you will cover support via your phone, but in this industry you need *true* 24/7 support, which costs money, you can always look to outsource for your off peak hours, i.e. the 8 hours you'll be asleep(!)

The niche you are attempting here is good, but to be blunt you need to do ALOT more research before even thinking about taking pre-orders as, in all likely hood, you won't be able to deliver meaning lost customers and maybe even a bad name from the start

My advice: remove the pre-orders from the site, get the knowledge and support behind you, then go for it. Until you have the compelete network of what is needed to set-up and run a GSP you won't last long at all, sorry to be blunt
understood i shall do so. i have a brother, and about 4 ppl in my clan who are joint leaders which can cover those. the clientill going towards is pre-established clans in this specific game which are ready and willing to make a move to something new. to set up cod4, or codwaw servers might be difficult but mohaas cant be that hard?

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Old 06-12-2010, 05:08 PM
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Keep in mind that game servers often become huge targets for DoS/DDoS

I hope you are prepared for that.

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Old 06-12-2010, 05:16 PM
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so i will need a firewall? or not.

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Old 06-12-2010, 05:20 PM
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so i will need a firewall? or not.
Definately, you will need to harden the server, i.e. have an initial set-up to secure it. You can then have server or network security to help against DDoS attacks.

Just to explain, a DDoS attack is where the server is flooded with data to try and knock it out, or make it run so slowly it is effectively offline, DDoS protection is a must

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Old 06-12-2010, 05:21 PM
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#1. Don’t run your website off the box your running game servers off of, that’s a very bad idea and will most likely end up in a website that takes for ever to load and is very very slow.

#2. If you don’t have someone that knows about setting up and managing the servers your going to need to employee someone full time. Yes they may help you set it up but what if you get an error with windows or something crashes?

#3. You can make money off a gsp but don’t expect it right away. To get a good price for your hardware and software and keep your prices competitive with other companies is quite a bit of work so be prepared to fork out quite a bit of cash before you start making anything.

#4. For a ddos attack its a good idea to have a network fire wall and you can help stop it slightly but bottom line theres no way to prevent it.


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Old 06-12-2010, 06:05 PM
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so the website i should look into getting the hosting extra service from tcadmin? or any hosting company for the website? i dont mind paying, but is there anyone here that is ready to help me intialise? because my initial idea was that it would be much simpler, i soon relized that was a mere dream the reality is much different. and im going to everything in my power so on 17th of july i would have servers. as i am just starting at 1 server i do not need anyone full time as of yet, if i expand from the single server then i would need more support administrators.

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Old 06-12-2010, 06:12 PM
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mtx-mc seems right if im not carefull i would crash and burn. therefore i need a good strategy. atm on the mistake of the pre-oder service i have already broken even [server cost(monthly,36 in totall)+colo+game panel]. even at the crud website in the niche market im appealling towards there is a huge clientell, which no-longer want to be renting a dedicated, instead want a bigger clan package deal.

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Old 06-12-2010, 06:44 PM
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You are going to fail and here is why. Fix these and you stand a better chance.

You don't have any clue how to run the servers.

You don't have any clue how to run a business.

You are treating it as a hobby. Even the way you are posting here is fly by night at best.

This 1337 speak and lack of any ability to form complete sentences will hurt you.

Your free domain is something no one wanting any kind of quality service will use. I won't spend my hard earned money on that.

You are not setup for DDOS.

You are not setup for chargebacks.

You don't have any kind of business plan.

You are looking to obtain free help from friends. That only takes you so far and its because it is a hobby to you.

There are many good companies offering services for reasonable rates. Being the cheapest on the block will only get you noticed for free sponsor requests and you will grant them only to find "they won't get you big!!"

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Old 06-13-2010, 11:11 AM
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i do know how to run a business.

i may be a noob but i am not stupid. perhaps my lack of intelligence in this subject; however even i know that clan sponsorship scheme's are not the way to go.

i do have a business plan: which is to 1st break even, then it is to make profit. therefore all servers are branded. therefore every consumer knows which server they are playing on. and know how to search for it to become a possible customer. being the cheapest is not going to get me established as a gsp from now has to be at the cheapest price to remain competitive. there are 3 types of consumers one which rent short term which are looking for the cheapest deal available. second which is mid range wants reliable, and quality servers. finally is the high ranged customers who will buy a dedicated as they which to have bigger servers of 40 slots or multiple servers. or in the clan's sense a public and a private server. from my point of view, i believe its how we appeal to all 3 types of consumers makes the more successful business. firms want to have maximum profits and lesser costs and where consumers want maximum benefits with out paying for it. its how my gsp creates the equilibrium which will not make it fail.

furthermore for it to fail is simply my lack of knowledge. be it how to run the game servers or dos attacks. but if i can solve that i shall not fail, as fail is not a option i consider.

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