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[UnderHost]

Hello, i just want to share my experience with Steve Garbus www.SteveGarbus.com with you, on 10/05 i've been refereed from an employees to steve garbus to get a vertical package slider done.

We come to an arrangement of 125$ for 2 week project, he wanted more so i offered him to pay 150$ to get it done but 50% before and 50% after, so on 10/05 i've sent to him 75$ since he already created a quick 5 minute images to gain me as client.


on 14/05 with no reply/comment since the payments i've sent this on MSN:

(01:30) XDEATHSTARX <3 D : Hello, have you worked a bit on project yet?
(00:26) Steve : Yeah, I can get a preview off to you this weekend

XDEATHSTARX is me, steve garbus are Steve already sent the files for verification to WHT mods.


So great a preview on weekend? with Steve be sure he won't show you anything on 18/05 (Saturday) during weekend i asked for a mockup, a image preview, since a coded version should be showed on weekend, we expected to get something to be able to change/edit his files before coding but there nothing, remember we are now at 9 days on a 14 days project.

on 24/05 i've asked him a refund, then he said the project he almost completed and i'll get all the files by night after no contact from him, well.

(21:50) Steve : Um I fell asleep last night and had work all day 9-6
I'll refund you now
(21:50) Steve : I'm on my mobile, I can have my fiance send it from her account
(21:51) Steve : If that's fine, send me your PayPal
brb
(21:56) XDEATHSTARX <3 D : ID #0T4072827D805000W
(21:56) XDEATHSTARX <3 D : Simply refund from there i will not pay paypal fee.

Wanted to be sure he used paypal refund to refund the transaction since he can chargeback the payments sent to me after submitting the payments and chance to lose the money.

Steve dit :
*ok
*yeah your $75 means SOOOO much to me!!!
*i scam people out of $75 all day!!!
*!!!!
*get real.
*I can barely fill up my gas tank for $75

on 27/05 i've asked again for refund no reply on 01/06 today he finally replied when i said i'll share my experience on WHT.

He now agreed to refund me then he said i should probably doing a chargeback instead, since he won't refund me or he can't.

Proposed him to clarify and reply was:

Steve dit :
*If you post on WHT, you might as well just do a chargeback
*Would be easier for me
*I'll expect both by end of day if that's possible for you

[XFactorServers]

Wow, wht mods need to create a new sub forum for Steve.

[Driver01]

Originally Posted by XFactorServers

Wow, wht mods need to create a new sub forum for Steve.

LOL...yes i think your probably right. When I see this the first thought was..."oh no not again!"

Mods how about that a Steve Garbus dedicated thread..lol?

[Shikhir A]

I find it really amusing that Steve is still on these forums and Payton Designs is not...

Sorry for your troubles.

[M Bacon]

Good luck getting your money back. Payton is much better than him.

[sgarbus]

I'm not ripping designs and calling them my own, then lying to the mods about the authenticity of exactly that.

It's amusing how much the OP actually left out, and the only reason I'm even here replying is because of your comment, Shikhir.

I'll be the first to admit, the project was never completed and I did offer to refund the client via the only means possible. He refused a payment from my fiancés account as I wasn't around and haven't heard from him since last week. Now, all of a sudden it's okay if the refund is sent via those means although I won't have the funds available for a few days (need to schedule a bank transfer).

There's nothing I can do to change how this situation has played out, and $75 is hardly even pocket change and something I'd "scam" a user out of. I told the OP to go ahead and file the chargeback so he doesn't even need to wait a few days for me and can get his funds at his discretion.

Take care,

Originally Posted by Shikhir A

I find it really amusing that Steve is still on these forums and Payton Designs is not...

Sorry for your troubles.

[UnderHost]

Originally Posted by sgarbus

...

I'll be the first to admit, the project was never completed and I did offer to refund the client via the only means possible. He refused a payment from my fiancés account as I wasn't around and haven't heard from him since last week. Now, all of a sudden it's okay if the refund is sent via those means although I won't have the funds available for a few days (need to schedule a bank transfer).

There's nothing I can do to change how this situation has played out, and $75 is hardly even pocket change and something I'd "scam" a user out of. I told the OP to go ahead and file the chargeback so he doesn't even need to wait a few days for me and can get his funds at his discretion.

Take care,

I've not used "scam"/"scammer" yet on my post since in fact, you don't scammed me because you claimed to refund me after not a bit confusing. i've also never REFUSED to get a refund.

Can you clearly state on PUBLIC forum if you or/and your company will issue a refund for the transaction or chargeback need to be submitted to my bank?

But if you have some open case in paypal due to "scamming" people and won't refund me a ban on WHT will be appreciated for the community.

It's amusing how much the OP actually left out

I've so much more to do instead of monitoring thread

Thank you

[g2design]

Originally Posted by sgarbus

I'll be the first to admit, the project was never completed and I did offer to refund the client via the only means possible. He refused a payment from my fiancés account as I wasn't around and haven't heard from him since last week.

As a designer, it is your job to be in contact with the client not the other way around. From the OP's post it seems you did not even make an attempt to contact him at all.

You had a deadline set, and you failed to achieve it and not only that, but you didn't even communicate with the client.

Originally Posted by sgarbus

Now, all of a sudden it's okay if the refund is sent via those means although I won't have the funds available for a few days (need to schedule a bank transfer).

You are insisting $75 is pocket change, yet you do not even have the funds in you PayPal.

Originally Posted by sgarbus

There's nothing I can do to change how this situation has played out, and $75 is hardly even pocket change and something I'd "scam" a user out of.

You could have indeed not even been in this situation. Communicate with the client, and don't get into projects that you cannot complete in a timely manner.



You obviously do have experience in this industry, and may have just made a mistake or their may just have been miscommunication. I hope you two can both figure this out and move forward.

[123Andrew]

Originally Posted by sgarbus

<snip>

I'll be the first to admit, the project was never completed and I did offer to refund the client via the only means possible. He refused a payment from my fiancés account as I wasn't around and haven't heard from him since last week. Now, all of a sudden it's okay if the refund is sent via those means although I won't have the funds available for a few days (need to schedule a bank transfer).

</snip>

Going to have to agree with the other guy, I have no clue why you are still here, The way you treated the OP was wrong, You agreed to have a preview done by the weekend, Was it done? no. You should have refunded him via the account he made the payment too, You say you don't have the funds in the account.

I wouldn't have accepted a payment from another account either, Given your reputation i would have been worried about you charging it back just like the OP. You should not had to have initiate a bank transfer from your bank account to get the funds, It should have been there since it was half/half. It was a 50/50 deal, Half now/Half later. He paid you 75$, You spent that money before you even finished the design without thinking of the possibility that it might need to be refunded? Did it not cross your mind at all?

While you might not be ripping designs, Your certainly guilty of other things and honestly i don't see why your still allowed to advertise your services here, This isn't the only time you have basically screwed someone and weaseled your way out.

What goes up must come down, What goes around must come around, You'll get yours one day don't worry.

[Outlaw Web Master]

Originally Posted by Shikhir A

I find it really amusing that Steve is still on these forums and Payton Designs is not...

Sorry for your troubles.

makes complete sense.

sometimes decisions are a complete mystery and this must be one of them.

however, having said that, I'm confident WHT Staff know what they are doing.

owm

[IGXHost]

Seriously, another complaint about Steve? This is getting out of control..

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...t=steve+garbus
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...t=steve+garbus
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...t=steve+garbus

Everytime a complaint about Steve shows up, it always seems to be about an overdue project or something that was never completed and eventually leads to a troubling refund. The first few times were skeptical since I've used Steve's services in the past. However, these incidents seem to be consistent now, and to be honest it seems to be a bit ridiculous. Even as a previous customer of Steve, I believe I will not think about using his services again.

Thanks for posting this review.

[semoweb]

How many bad review's does Steve have? ALOT!!!! And people still seem to hire him..

Steve = Rat Trap

First all sound's gravy you give the project to him now he got's your cheese and now you try and get the cheese (design work promised) and BAM!!!! it got you R.I.P current client/future client's.

This guy is a joke!

[Steven.C]

This can be a very frustrating situation to be in. I hope all works out best for the OP.

[UnderHost]

Originally Posted by Steven.C

This can be a very frustrating situation to be in. I hope all works out best for the OP.

Unfortunately chargeback is the only resource i have now, the project as been completed by Harzem and big thumb up for him, since he got a 2days turnover to complete the project.

Hope steve www.stevegarbus.com will get banned from WHT to avoid any further scam around here.

[kapz01]

I've been following all of the Steve Garbus' "threads" for a while now. I was just waiting for the next one to spew up and cause more issues.

I have no idea why people still send him money and ask for his services, based on the reviews available.

Wow, wht mods need to create a new sub forum for Steve.

Perfectly said.