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Old 05-11-2010, 06:15 PM
kmching2 kmching2 is offline
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encouraging ipv6 adoption by having ipv6 only hour for important sites


[note to admin: sorry for the duplicate thread with the simpler title]

The exhaustion of the ipv4 address space is imminent and this time around, there do not seem to be any hacks remaining to get around that fact and yet everyone seems to have their heads buried in the sand regarding the issue, the most guilty parties, imo, being the ISPs who have been extremely complacent about rolling this out for their end users.

If I understand correctly, there are several disincentives against going ipv6, one of the most important being that it is NOT backwards compatible with ipv4 ( http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html ). Practically speaking, a site that is being served on ipv6 only is NOT ON THE INTERNET AT ALL - being inaccessible to 99.9999% (or something like that) of the internet population! Until ISPs give ipv6 connectivity to the end-users of the world, the limited pool of ipv4 addresses is going to become more and more expensive over time as it would be ludicrous to put a host on ipv6.

A black market in ipv4 addresses seems to be inevitable, but perhaps by spurring quicker ipv6 adoption, the increased costs and inconveniences of such a transition era can be made as short as possible. Plus, I think everyone hates opportunistic b@st@rds (unless we're in on their racket that is ) and we want them to make as little money as possible engaging in black-market trading of ipv4 addresses.

One possible proposal would be for sites like freebsd.org and kernel.org which are frequented by network-knowledgeable people to have an "ipv6 only hour" deliberately inconveniencing people who do not have ipv6 connectivity. System administrators working in ISPs and/or directly affected by their services will be the ones which would be most inconvenienced by such. Encouraging these network-savvy people to demand (or at least familiarize themselves with) ipv6 is what's needed to reach the tipping point for ipv6 adoption because these are the people who are directly involved in crafting policies for ipv6 rollout.

To lessen controversy and to provide fair warning, a site like FreeBSD.org could say that they will go ipv6-only for 1 hour every week for the first 3 months, adding an additional hour of ipv6-only time every couple of months thereafter.



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Old 05-11-2010, 06:20 PM
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Another possibility is for the government to mandate a shift to ipv6 much like the shift to HDTV, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

Of course if *Google* were to go ipv6-only for even just 15 minutes a week, that would be enough to convert half the internet over to ipv6 in a matter of months. Unfortunately, I dig-ged gogole.com and they don't even seem to have AAAA records!


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Old 05-11-2010, 07:53 PM
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ipv6.google.com is currently the ipv6 enabled google domain, but obviously it isnt rolled out across all of their other sites/services!

I think the best way forward is for providers/sites to offer some additional features, content or applications/services via ipv6 only (as opposed to a dual-stack scenario) - that way ISPs would have incentive to roll-out a dual-stack service to endusers on the basis of more than just offering users 2 ways to access the same content.

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Old 05-12-2010, 08:12 PM
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Google is dual-stacked, as is the youtube service, however you have to use white-listed recursors to access their sites over IPv6. See: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/

I believe the two major tunnel brokers are both white-listed, and provide this access with recursors they operate.

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