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05-08-2010, 02:17 AM #76Web Hosting Master
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My account manager at UberBandwidth says (on May 5th) -
I believe that our 15 providers are as follows:
AT&T Global Crossing Qwest
Telia Time Warner Sprint
AboveNet Charter Nuvox
BTN/PCCW WBS Connect Comcast
ERC Level (3) Savvis
Coming Soon!
WVFiber XO
TIscali Telecom Italia
NTT/Verio Verizon/MCI/UUNet
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05-08-2010, 02:22 AM #77Aspiring Evangelist
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ORLY? Then where's BandCon? 'cuz they're DEFINITELY using BandCon...and Charter.
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05-08-2010, 02:27 AM #78Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2010, 02:28 AM #79Aspiring Evangelist
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Cool. Let everyone know what you find out...
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05-08-2010, 02:31 AM #80Aspiring Evangelist
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05-08-2010, 03:26 AM #81THE Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2010, 08:00 AM #82Web Hosting Master
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I don't blame Bandcon for not jumping in either. This thread is about Uber's connectivity and I'd be surprised if there wasn't a bilateral NDA in effect. If Uber didn't purchase enough capacity and Bandcon knows it, they can't say anything because of NDA. And if the problem is on Bandcon's end (such as if their POP is oversubscribed) they can't say because they would be, in effect, telling the workd their customer has purchased substandard transit.
Like you said, either way Bandcon can't win.
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05-08-2010, 08:38 AM #83Web Hosting Master
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Using their website's traceroute tool:
ATT.net is reached via Bandcon -> Level3 -> ATT
Global Crossing is via Bandcon -> Gblx
Qwest is via Bandcon -> Gblx -> Qwest
Telia is via Bandcon -> Gblx -> Telia
TW Telecom is via Bandcon -> Gblx -> TWTC
Sprint is via Bandcon -> Level3 -> Sprint
Above.net is via HE -> Above.net (they're apparently directly connected to Hurricane Electric)
Charter is reached via direct connection
Nuvox is via HE -> TWTC -> Nuvox
PCCW/BTN is via Bandcon -> PCCW
Comcast is via Bandcon -> Gblx -> Comcast
Level3 is via Bandcon -> Level3
Savvis is via Bandcon -> Gblx -> Savvis
I think it's pretty clear how their "15 providers" are actually reached. Now it's possible they DO have direct connections with these providers, but have configured their FCP to take the absolute cheapest route (which would explain Bandcon and HE as the only paths) available.
It would be interesting to see outbound traceroutes if they shut off the Bandcon transit.
Also, they could be talking about the more expensive Netriplex mix and not their budget Uber mix. Looking back over the past year or so, I'm beginning to think they started off promoting Uberbandwidth as high quality, dozens-of-carriers premium bandwidth at low prices. Then somewhere along the way, Uberbandwidth became a budget blend and if you want the good stuff, you have to select the Netriplex blend. (I reserve the right to be completely wrong about this.)Last edited by Sekweta; 05-08-2010 at 08:45 AM.
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05-08-2010, 08:41 AM #84Web Hosting Master
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I tried outbound from one of my servers at Uber, to Level3 and it went through Level3 itself. (this was on first day of this thread)
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05-08-2010, 09:19 AM #85Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2010, 09:22 AM #86Master of the Truth
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05-08-2010, 09:38 AM #87Web Hosting Master
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My bad, i thought that IP was Uber's. Its Bandcon.
root@server4 [~]# traceroute level3.net
traceroute to level3.net (4.68.95.11), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 66.219.24.81 (66.219.24.81) 0.447 ms 0.478 ms 0.553 ms
2 tengig-3-2.avl01.uberbw.com (66.219.27.5) 0.327 ms 0.332 ms 0.379 ms
3 209.107.197.209 (209.107.197.209) 15.359 ms 15.419 ms 15.475 ms
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05-08-2010, 12:32 PM #88Web Hosting Guru
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i can't say i didn't think about the NDA but sometimes you've gotta put a company in it's place. i'm not gonna say what one of them told me already a while back because that wouldn't be cool but from what i was told, there is more than enough bandwidth available. THAT is why i want bandcon to respond. every company needs it's PR so if they need to hire Karl Rove to train them on what to say, even if it's a complete lie.. do it.
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05-08-2010, 12:45 PM #89Web Hosting Master
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My biggest complaint is Uber saying they have all these carriers, when the reality is quite different. It's not a marketing mislead, it's an outright lie, and has me thinking twice about using them now.
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05-09-2010, 01:53 PM #91Marketing Maestro
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Is it possible they use Bandcon for their backhaul to connect to all of these carriers?
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05-09-2010, 02:53 PM #92Web Hosting Master
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Definitely possible, in fact it's entirely probable. Many companies will resell transport services, so you may pay Bandcon for transport, but the actual circuit is provisioned by AT&T (just some random example).
However, this wouldn't show up on fixedorbit/route servers/etc. It would be completely and totally transparent to their customers, general public, etc.
Only people with billing access/physical access to the equipment/circuits/etc. would have any real knowledge of this, for anyone else it's sheer speculation.
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05-09-2010, 03:10 PM #93Marketing Maestro
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Uh, your wording is a bit confusing on that statement ^_^.
Pushing bits over a L2 transport link will not be visible by BGP, will not be visible by a route-viewer/route-server, and will not be visible by traceroute.
While I'm not clear if you get that (based on your above posts wording), the OSI model is always applicable for anyone whose confused .
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05-09-2010, 03:36 PM #95Marketing Maestro
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I'm not a networking person but my understanding is that they would announce them under their ASN. If Bandcon is the backhaul/cross connect carrier, they'd announce the carriers who travel over that Bandcon line. One example I know of is ColoGuys. They cross connect from the Infomart to their new DC but they don't simply announce the cross connect carrier - they announce the BGP coming over it - http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/30/AS30008.htm
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05-09-2010, 03:48 PM #96Web Hosting Master
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Its the use of "they/them", etc. that makes it confusing.
Transport links are Layer2 links, they have nothing to do with BGP, and are equivalent to a single physical cable drop as far as most need be concerned. If I supplied the physical cable between you and your transit provider, would anybody know that? Of course not.
People providing transport do not announce your IP's for you under their ASN. If they're doing that, they're not providing transport, they're providing transit, two different types of service.
Buying transit from Bandcon isn't a bad thing, but if you're buying bandwidth from an aggregator, and paying them to provide you with "their mix", you can't advertise that you're buying from all of *their* providers, thats what people are saying here (and theres a *huge* difference between the two).
If I was single homed on Level3, but then turned around and told you that I bought from all of their peers, well that would be an outright lie, right? ( L3's peers as visible by FixedOrbit - http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/3/AS3356.htm ).
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05-10-2010, 01:36 AM #97Web Hosting Guru
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looks like they made some changes over the weekend, apparently adding hurricane electric is supposed to be better.
http://bgp.he.net/AS36167
fixedorbit's data is a bit outdated obviously? what we see there is a lot better than what we have now.Last edited by jeev; 05-10-2010 at 01:44 AM.
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05-10-2010, 04:18 AM #98Newbie
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Looks like some routes are normalizing now.
Also, they've changed their pricing page:
http://uberbandwidth.com/pricing.asp
Interesting. I wonder how/if it will affect current customers.
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05-10-2010, 04:21 AM #99Aspiring Evangelist
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05-10-2010, 04:22 AM #100Web Hosting Master
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It does not affect current clients. The cabinet/power/ip pricing is same as Netriplex (any other Netriplex datacenter) and UberBandwidth can be purchased for min. 100 mbit commit, instead of 10mbit earlier.
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