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    Are the teens of today better or worse than the teens of 20,40+ years ago?

    I believe they are much worse off for the folowing reasons

    1) TRASH/EVIL VIDEO GAMES (WHEN WE WERE YOUNG WE HAD GOOD GAMES)

    These games of killing people,evil is NO GOOD for anyone to be playing!


    2) ALMOST NOTHING BUT GARBAGE ON TV TODAY!

    The kids of today have NO IDEA what good is until they have watched cartoons on saturday morning during the 70,80s!! (Best time ever)


    3) Crap MUSIC

    This stuff called "HIP HOP" is horrible (80s hip hop was good (Tone loc,etc))

    I think todays youth is terribly worse than when we were young and IM GLAD TO HAVE BEEN YOUNG WHEN I WAS!!





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    1) There are some amazing games right now, when I was young Mario was state of the art and windows 3.0 was rocking. If it's better or not I don't know and I don't think I can judge as all older people complained about the youth since the dawn of actual progress.

    2) There are still good cartoons on TV and more than ever, even some Looney Tunes, however it gotten more commercial, like the entire society.

    3) Crap music? How did your parents feel about all that crazy metal rock crap?

    I don't know if it was better to have grown up when I did, but I must say that I am quite happy with the results.

    Saying that they are worse off then we were is a bit ignorant at the history of the parents-kids relationship.
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    aaaah. old ppl ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
    aaaah. old ppl ....
    I'm telling you... never seen such an unhappy person in my life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirius View Post
    I'm telling you... never seen such an unhappy person in my life!
    i knew worse - at least this one had actually played computer games and whatnot.

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    So let's throw some demographics out there, I'm 38, educated, married etc. I did not grow upwith cell phones or the level of instant communication that is available.

    Some thoughts:

    1. I've had most of the game systems. I like them all, but definitely prefer today b/c they are just straight up better. Can I do w/o all the killing, sure, but I still think they are better today. My only complaint with game makers is/are they make the games too short on game play. You can play donkey kong, frogger, tempest, etc forever. Today's game makers are worried too much about online play, vs good story line.

    2. TV? I don't watch a lot of network TV, but I hate the "reality" crap that is out there. Thank god for history channel and the like.

    3. The music...every generation says that. I listen to it all.

    4. Cellphones. Easiest way to "control" a teenager these days is the cellphone. In my day it was a swift "whack".



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    As a 50 something, it's a 'no brainer'

    We did not have any Computers or Video Games or 'cell phones',

    We did have, a [UK]motor industry,
    Beter Music, Fashion, TV, Drugs, Politics & politicians, Cars, Motorbikes, Magazines
    Beter food, beer, sex, hair, women, cartoons, startrek, comic books, super heroes,
    movies, pop festivals etc.

    Could there be a better time to be a teenager
    than through the end of the 60s into the mid 70s ?

    Could there be a better place to be than 'Swinging London' ?
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    Thus the process of generations, sure the youth's values may have changed but I wouldn't necessarily call it better or worse.
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    I'm 42 and think its more the parental guidance or lack there of that causes these issues today.

    I don;t really mind the new games, music or TV etc.. but..

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PULL UP YOUR DAMN PANTS!!
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    Today's youth seem to lack initiative and the ability to innovate. Two of the most important needs to lead the country to economic prosperity. I believe this is mostly due to no child left behind act forcing teachers to waste precious resources on students with no desire to learn. Something is clearly wrong when the curriculum has to be simplified and the bar set lower each year (possibly because overweight children can't get their feet off the ground to reach it). I liken the experience to a prevasive sense of medicority is best. Why should I work harder, smarter, and faster if I get paid and/or rewarded the same as John who clocks in on time leaves on time and gives an average performance.

    Unemployment is now referred to as funemployment or paycation. This is completely unacceptable.
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    They are probably the same as 20 years ago. It's just us getting older and we change so they seem worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by fierceservers View Post
    Thus the process of generations, sure the youth's values may have changed but I wouldn't necessarily call it better or worse.
    Wow I thought it was 'All about 'My Generation'
    People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby

    People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
    Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

    This is my generation
    This is my generation, baby
    But I guess the new generation wouldn't even know WHO wrote that !
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    Somewhat related:

    http://xkcd.com/603/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse_613 View Post
    They are probably the same as 20 years ago. It's just us getting older and we change so they seem worse
    Oh no, they're definitely worse.
    20,40 years ago, parents taught their children morals and ideals. Now, it's "send them to school, let the school teach them all that crap".

    20, 40 years ago, there was no such thing as a "working family". Dad worked, mom stayed at home (or, in odd cases, reverse), but 2 income families were not as common as they are today. Today, it's pretty much a requirement, all because we gotta have all them goodies

    20,40 years ago, punishment was ALLOWED. Yes, in some cases it was abused by far (I know from experience), but it was allowed, and there were no questions, you DIDN'T do something that would piss your elders off.

    I feel sorry for today's children's grandchildren. If we have strayed this far as a culture, what will it be like 2-3 generations down the road? Hell, today's children will be the ones caring for us as we're old (politically, etc), which is just one HELL of a scary thought.

    Today's children are selfish, greedy, spoiled brats for the most part. They're taught from a young age that you get what you want just by crying or throwing a fit. How much worse is it going to be for them 20, 30 years from now when they find themselves dealing with the same issues only worse.

    Growing up being forced to go to church, I took a lot of that home (not that I use much of it now ), and one very clear reminder from all of that comes to me:

    The sins of the father will be passed down from generation to generation
    This is very clearly what's happening here. Each generation is becoming weaker and weaker, affected from the previous generation's "sins" (mistakes, whatever).
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    i find my self playing and liking violence, battle, war themed or containing games less and less as i get older. maybe its something to do with the age.

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    I think the real issue is horrible parents. I'm 26, and as much as my parents got on my case, they taught me about respect and values. Parents now figure they can just throw money at the kids and let them do whatever they want. This leads to groups of high school kids wearing hoodies and hanging out at 7-11 3am on a tuesday night. I'm out often at night all over town and the property destruction I see is more often caused by stupid kids. This is also the reason why I carry a nice aluminum bat in my car, in case one of them comes my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netfreak View Post
    I think the real issue is horrible parents. I'm 26, and as much as my parents got on my case, they taught me about respect and values.
    Exactly one of the points I was trying to make, though worded much better
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux-tech View Post
    Exactly one of the points I was trying to make, though worded much better
    I agree.

    As a teacher, I can tell you that many kids are fantastic people. The parents can be another story sometimes, though, and I do feel that the parents sometimes 'bring down' the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian-de-vie View Post
    As a 50 something, it's a 'no brainer'

    We did not have any Computers or Video Games or 'cell phones',

    We did have, a [UK]motor industry,
    Beter Music, Fashion, TV, Drugs, Politics & politicians, Cars, Motorbikes, Magazines
    Beter food, beer, sex, hair, women, cartoons, startrek, comic books, super heroes,
    movies, pop festivals etc.
    [UK]motor industry - crappy cars, that's why it died
    Better Music - Personal choice, however no iPod
    Fashion - No thongs, tits and asses all over the place. You decide.
    TV - There wasn't much on TV back then and it was totally gay.
    Drugs - More powerful and cheaper now.
    Politics & politicians - Now they are 10 times more fun.
    Cars - Death traps.
    Motorbikes - Heavy and not that much power, also very expensive.
    Magazines - Just a few and not very interesting.
    Better food, beer - True, but no 6 pound burgers
    sex, hair, women - All in the same package
    cartoons, startrek, comic books, super heroes - Still there, just more refined.
    movies - Yes, the man inside a suit robot invading earth. Run for your lives!!!
    pop festivals - Frankly, I have no idea what those are
    etc - We still have that
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    Quote Originally Posted by netfreak View Post
    I think the real issue is horrible parents. I'm 26, and as much as my parents got on my case, they taught me about respect and values. Parents now figure they can just throw money at the kids and let them do whatever they want. This leads to groups of high school kids wearing hoodies and hanging out at 7-11 3am on a tuesday night. I'm out often at night all over town and the property destruction I see is more often caused by stupid kids. This is also the reason why I carry a nice aluminum bat in my car, in case one of them comes my way.
    Exactly, I've seen kids unattented by their parents, like one the other night was screwing with the fountain machine at KFC by pressing the tabs and the kids mother was just staring in space.
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    How does today's children manage to study with all the distractions? iPhone, mp3 player, t.v., youtube.

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    Well as we can't take the time back its wise to be satisfied with whatever you got now. Well we certainly do have better video games now...

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    And there would be yet another one of the reasons things are worse off today:
    Just settle for what you've got, you can't do better!!!
    You can ALWAYS do better, settling is a weak, pathetic excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabron View Post
    [UK]motor industry - crappy cars, that's why it died
    Better Music - Personal choice, however no iPod
    Fashion - No thongs, tits and asses all over the place. You decide.
    TV - There wasn't much on TV back then and it was totally gay.
    Drugs - More powerful and cheaper now.
    Politics & politicians - Now they are 10 times more fun.
    Cars - Death traps.
    Motorbikes - Heavy and not that much power, also very expensive.
    Magazines - Just a few and not very interesting.
    Better food, beer - True, but no 6 pound burgers
    sex, hair, women - All in the same package
    cartoons, startrek, comic books, super heroes - Still there, just more refined.
    movies - Yes, the man inside a suit robot invading earth. Run for your lives!!!
    pop festivals - Frankly, I have no idea what those are
    etc - We still have that
    E- Types, Miniskirts except when partying
    Byrds, Beatles, Stones, Dylan CSNY, Yardbirds, Floyd,
    as opposed to ????, and, no Ipod was great.
    Drugs, I guess I can't remember
    Politics, no comparison, Nixon, JFK, Wilson, Ted H, Screaming Lord Such, Enoch etc. compared to whatever flavour of 'polished mad' you like today.

    I'll do the rest latter if I get realy bored.

    etc. does not change agreed, but I suspect more 60s kids new what it was.
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    Drugs, I guess I can't remember
    how politically correct, and how safe, in regard to public offences.

    so, you cant remember, you guess eh ?

    hahahahaaa

    easy, it was a long time ago. noone can come on to you for admitting.

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