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    The FIRST multi-disc Blu-Ray device is here

    I've been doing a search for something like this for a while now, too bad it's a bit too rich for my blood at around $600 per unit, but looking at the setup, it might just be worth it?

    Product Features
    1. Organize and play 400 Blu-ray Disc movies, DVDs, & CDs
    2. Experience Full HD 1080p/24p video output
    3. Quickly load rented movies through the rental slot
    4. Converts DVD video to near HD quality via HDMI
    5. Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD decoding/bitstream output


    Pretty pictures are awesome too!!

    Looks like this has been around since September (last search was just before then). Sadly it'd take a good 2 or 3 of these to hold my entire collection, but damn this thing just looks sweet!
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    Does it show you on screen what is in each slot, or how do you know?
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    According to the product page, it will look the discs up using Gracenote DB, and store the info in the system itself, so yes, it should show you a menu of the discs.

    From what the reviews say, there is no way to jump to a specific slot #, but you can select your disc and play that way (probably alphabetized??)
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    Not bad. The $600 price tag isn't too bad overall, for what it does.

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    Yeah, the price tag isn't bad at all, compared to what it does there. It's just a bit high for my taste right now, though it's definitely on the "todo list" , I mean featurwise, this thing is what I need.

    I'd be happy with a 5 disc BRD device, which is what I've got for the DVD/sound system right now, but it's probably not feasible pricewise for them to do something like that yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux-tech View Post
    Yeah, the price tag isn't bad at all, compared to what it does there. It's just a bit high for my taste right now, though it's definitely on the "todo list" , I mean featurwise, this thing is what I need.

    I'd be happy with a 5 disc BRD device, which is what I've got for the DVD/sound system right now, but it's probably not feasible pricewise for them to do something like that yet.
    Wonder how long such would talk from disc insertion to playing

    My biggest gripe about blueray players is that they are SLOW to start playing, you insert a disc and wait an eternity for it to play on most of them. (2-3 minutes is not uncommon have seen some models even slower)
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    Well, since it's developed by Sony, I wouldn't say it is that long at all. The ps3 doesn't take long to do this at all.
    As it's a new(er) device, this counts for it as well. Older devices took a while, this shouldn't be the case here.

    Of course, can't speak from experience because it's a bit out of my price range , but it doesn't look horrible at all.
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    What am I missing here? It's a Blu-Ray player (and prices for a good one are down in the $100-200 range now), with a carousel. How is it that the plastic spinny part is worth $400?
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    It's not just a blu-ray player, it's a multi-disc blu-ray player, and it's the only one on the market right now. It looks like they just brought the price back up to $719, which is a pretty steep hike.

    If you look at other dvd players of this capacity (400+), you will see that they're all in this pricerange. It's not just about the fact that something can play the disc, but the fact that it can play multiple discs, and catalog most people libraries rather well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux-tech View Post
    It's not just a blu-ray player, it's a multi-disc blu-ray player, and it's the only one on the market right now. It looks like they just brought the price back up to $719, which is a pretty steep hike.

    If you look at other dvd players of this capacity (400+), you will see that they're all in this pricerange. It's not just about the fact that something can play the disc, but the fact that it can play multiple discs, and catalog most people libraries rather well.
    Does that mean it has multiple HDMI outputs to send different signals to multiple TV sets/receivers (the picture doesn't seem to indicate this)? I'm not sure what the benefit of having multiple disk playing is. Personally, I only watch one movie at a time. Picture-in-picture Blu-Ray? What's up with the multiple part?
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    It's more of a convenience thing than anything, and really useful when you have a larger assortment of DVD's. No more hunting for the dvd in the sea of dvds on the shelves, etc.

    Say for example, you want to sit down, relax for a day and watch all of the LOTR series, or Star Wars series, or any other series. If you've got the dvds, you've got to get up after each one , swap out dvd for dvd, and get settled back in. This way, it's all done with the remote.

    Say for example you want to watch all movies by X actor or director, which I tend to do when one dies, or hits the news in a major way. This would easily help you with that.

    Also, it's a great decoy. Them thieves can get the case to the DVD's, but they won't get what's in them. Of course, if they walk off with the unit itself, then you're effectively screwed, but that's what insurance is for anyways

    All in all it boils down to personal preference. I don't see a need for a 400 disc box, but I can see how it would be very useful to those with larger collections, like mine. If all you've got is a handful of DVD's or BRD's then you're not going to find this as fascinating, but if you've got more than a handful, then it goes up in value quite drastically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux-tech View Post
    It's more of a convenience thing than anything, and really useful when you have a larger assortment of DVD's. No more hunting for the dvd in the sea of dvds on the shelves, etc.

    Say for example, you want to sit down, relax for a day and watch all of the LOTR series, or Star Wars series, or any other series. If you've got the dvds, you've got to get up after each one , swap out dvd for dvd, and get settled back in. This way, it's all done with the remote.

    Say for example you want to watch all movies by X actor or director, which I tend to do when one dies, or hits the news in a major way. This would easily help you with that.

    Also, it's a great decoy. Them thieves can get the case to the DVD's, but they won't get what's in them. Of course, if they walk off with the unit itself, then you're effectively screwed, but that's what insurance is for anyways

    All in all it boils down to personal preference. I don't see a need for a 400 disc box, but I can see how it would be very useful to those with larger collections, like mine. If all you've got is a handful of DVD's or BRD's then you're not going to find this as fascinating, but if you've got more than a handful, then it goes up in value quite drastically.
    Oh, I totally get what's so good about it. I understand the convenience, the sorting features, etc.

    I'm just trying to figure out how a piece of fancy molded plastic and a simple drive train turns a $150 blu-Ray player into a $720 player. To me, that's just nuts

    I'd love to have one of those, and I think I'd buy it for, say, $250.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_pm View Post
    Oh, I totally get what's so good about it. I understand the convenience, the sorting features, etc.

    I'm just trying to figure out how a piece of fancy molded plastic and a simple drive train turns a $150 blu-Ray player into a $720 player. To me, that's just nuts

    I'd love to have one of those, and I think I'd buy it for, say, $250.
    I totally agree. But again I never watch the same movie twice or even own a single dvd, so this device means nothing to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_pm View Post
    I'd love to have one of those, and I think I'd buy it for, say, $250.
    That's what I paid for my 5 disc DVD changer/stereo and it's done pretty good so far. Eventually they'll have something of similar quality for the BRD setup and I'll toss the DVD changer/stereo but I think we're a few years away from that.

    The price is nothing hugely different from, say a 400 disc DVD changer, as I said earlier, though I get where the complaint of it being too much comes from.
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    There are some MAJOR (in my book) cons about this device. Since a lot of people are energy conscious now days (aka, electric bills are in the $400s), they will NOT keep this puppy on all day.

    Unfortunately, if you do not keep it on, it will lose it's memory of every disc in there. You would then have to wait a few hours as it updates itself (again) to find out what the heck dics are in itself.

    Another thing is that when the above happens, some your discs will all of a sudden become unrecognized. This occurs randomly on different discs, go figure.

    But .. if you are rich, have all the time in the world, and don't mind paying a high electricity bill ... this is worth it

    Granted, it is only first generation ... But it is also Sony .. it's a hit or miss with them every generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannara View Post
    Unfortunately, if you do not keep it on, it will lose it's memory of every disc in there. You would then have to wait a few hours as it updates itself (again) to find out what the heck dics are in itself.


    Another thing is that when the above happens, some your discs will all of a sudden become unrecognized. This occurs randomly on different discs, go figure.
    Nonsense.
    I don't know where you get your information from, but this goes against every review out there that says the complete opposite. In fact, this was tried deliberately in one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shannara View Post
    Granted, it is only first generation ... But it is also Sony .. it's a hit or miss with them every generation.
    Sony has also put a LOT of money in the BRD setup, so they have a lot riding there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Not bad. The $600 price tag isn't too bad overall, for what it does.

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    I agree, it's a pretty reasonable price for the it can do.
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    I was almost excited until I read the reviews. A few people have had discs badly scratched when it loads them up initially.
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    Yeah, there were a few scratched discs, but how many of 'em were really scratched by the player I wonder.

    I've never seen a player scratch a disc so badly it couldn't be played, so something there seems a bit fishy.
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    I love blu-ray, so one blu-ray at a time is good fishing for me. I wouldn't use a big system like that to store all my blu-rays. I do see how some folks would jump at that though.

    The blu-ray picture sharpness and sound is amazing, and really enhances my 4m wide home cinema screen. Blu-ray is best loud, really loud when that full surround sound kicks into overdrive.

    I'm curious as to how they're going to handle 3D blu-ray, if that's even possible, without having to upgrade the projector to 3D capable hardware.

    They're releasing the non 3D blu-ray version of Avatar in November (I think) so that muddies the water about if they can do blu-ray 3D, without those crappy cardboard glasses. My 4m wide home cinema screen would be killer in 3D bu-ray. Oh boy, that kind of thing gets my nipples hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob View Post
    I'm curious as to how they're going to handle 3D blu-ray, if that's even possible, without having to upgrade the projector to 3D capable hardware.
    3D and blu-ray have been out for a while actually. I think the first one I picked up was Coraline, which looked just fine in normal 3D glasses (not those paper ones)
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    They're releasing the non 3D blu-ray version of Avatar in November (I think)
    Try April , at least here. Current guess is that the 3-D / Special edition will be out around Christmas time.

    I fully agree with the sharpness/etc of BRD, though I only use 1080i as that's all my plasma can handle. It's still a great deal better than the old DVD way of things, and HDMI is just sooooo much easier to deal with than the composite way of hooking things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linux-tech View Post
    3D and blu-ray have been out for a while actually. I think the first one I picked up was Coraline, which looked just fine in normal 3D glasses (not those paper ones)
    But they released (in Australia) Final Destination 3D blu-ray with those crappy blue and red lense cardboard glasses. I was so ticked off about that.
    Try April , at least here. Current guess is that the 3-D / Special edition will be out around Christmas time.
    Let's hope they release Avatar blu-ray 3D with the proper 3D glasses too. I'd love to watch Avatar in blu-ray 3D in my home cinema.
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    I actually went out and ordered the proper glasses for it. Cost me about $5-$10 for a few pair, but it worked for me. One set will usually work for most movies
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    according to www.bdfile.com they are about $720 there is no waay id pay this much for a blu-ray player.. Just wait till the price drops
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    Amazon's got it for $719 now which is higher than it was when I originally posted this. The cost is definitely warranted when you look at other 400 disc devices, I just don't think I'm going to be getting this specific one, partly due to cost, partly due to the fact that I don't really NEED a 400 disc player, though I definitely want one (it'd make my life a lot easier )
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