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[jagarco]

Hi

If I'm currently getting domains at 7.67usd(ICANN fee included) from godaddy without being a reseller(coupons and such).
Why would I need to get/pay a domain reseller account?(from any)

Things to consider on my current position
- My main services are Local Hosting an Web Design services
- I sell domains up to 60.00usd/annually
- I register domains manually for my customers.
- Because customers don't know nor search for hosting or domains
- All business is done traditionally, local, cheque/cash almost no web involved besides me presenting web services when selling.
- They don't need to manage DNS and stuff
etc.

Now...
I'm planning to launch the services nation wide, not just my city, the business will then be through the web.
I still think I'm not going to offer automatic domain registering, I guess it'll be manually registered once payment is been verified.
We'd just receive the purchase order, verify payment and then we proceed to register the domain.

THE ONLY thing I think I would use(need?) by being a domain Reseller is the Domain control panel for customer to manage their DNS, which even that could be managed by us through support system.

Because... I mean, price? I'm already getting them at 7.67usd

Solid image and confidence projection to the market?, ok yes, maybe, I still don't get to know completely MY new market.

So, does having a domain control panel for end users worth the extra $$

what else is there that I'm missing?

Thank you

[stub]

You could always open up a separate GoDaddy Account for every customer You can open up a GoDaddy Reseller for about $99/year or get the same thru a WWD Reseller for about $78/year. If you are launching nationwide, I'd say that was a very small price to pay in order to give your customers a Control Panel.

[jagarco]

Originally Posted by stub

You could always open up a separate GoDaddy Account for every customer You can open up a GoDaddy Reseller for about $90+/year or get the same thru a WWD Reseller for about $60+/year. If you are launching nationwide, I'd say that was a very small price to pay in order to give your customers a Control Panel.

Of course, you're totally right.
But, what if I can't register domains at 7.67usd with a WWD Reseller account?

Didn't know about WWD Resellers gave cheaper Reseller Domain accounts than being actually a WWD Reseller.

I thought being a Godaddy Reseller is actually being a WWD Reseller.
I see in Godaddy's site Super Reseller Plan ables you to offer Basic and Pro plans, which at first sight I don't see the profits on this so I'll have to check it out.

[Subodh M]

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[petzsch]

I suggest you consider other Registrars as well. Example: resell.biz does not charge you a yearly fee and has better domain prices.

[jweeb]

There are providers such as Enom that allow you to provide a white label domain name control panel for your customers. As your sales volume is low, look for one like resell that does not have yearly fees.

[jagarco]

Originally Posted by jweeb

There are providers such as Enom that allow you to provide a white label domain name control panel for your customers. As your sales volume is low, look for one like resell that does not have yearly fees.

I'm still having hard time grasping how giving 1600usd or 2000usd upfront to start seeing profit several months later and just like for 200usd of profit.

I haven't done the math but a domain reseller deal for like 200usd/year for 7.29domains kind of makes it more appealing.
The more domains we sell a year, the cheaper they are.
if we sell 3 domains a week average, that'll be 144 domains a year.
At 200usd/year + 7.29 each, they'll end up costing like 8.70usd each domain. If we sell more the price decrease etc.

Anyhow, I'm still checking if getting a domain reseller account and if so with which provider.

The ones being mentioned on these threads look interesting, I think is time for A LOT of reading.

[WebhostGIANT-Rob]

Originally Posted by jweeb

There are providers such as Enom that allow you to provide a white label domain name control panel for your customers. As your sales volume is low, look for one like resell that does not have yearly fees.

If your sales value is low better sign up for affiliate program not for reseller account.

[stub]

Originally Posted by jagarco

Of course, you're totally right.
But, what if I can't register domains at 7.67usd with a WWD Reseller account?

Didn't know about WWD Resellers gave cheaper Reseller Domain accounts than being actually a WWD Reseller.

I thought being a Godaddy Reseller is actually being a WWD Reseller.
I see in Godaddy's site Super Reseller Plan ables you to offer Basic and Pro plans, which at first sight I don't see the profits on this so I'll have to check it out.

GoDaddy Reseller is WWD Reseller. I use the term interchangeably. But you can usually find a cheaper deal than the $99 if you go as a WWD Reseller sub-account. But you'd need to check their registration & renewal prices before you sign up.

I used to be a WWD Reseller, but dropped it after I negotiated a better deal with GoDaddy directly, because I wasn't actually reselling domains. So I'm unfamiliar with their current prices. Where did you get the $7.67 price from?

For me personally, I don't like or fully trust sub-accounts, although some are very trustworthy. I'd pay the extra $20/yr to be a top level WWD Reseller.

So you can calculate your per domain cost. Register 100 domains a year and add $1 to the domain registration cost for comparison purposes. Register 1000/yr and add $0.10 per new registration or renewal.

eNom are also an excellent Reseller. They're the biggest and best in the business. You can get a free account with a Reseller like DomainSmarty (whom I trust) with $8.95 registrations. I think that is a great deal, personally.

The only reason I suggested WWD over eNom was because you said you were already familiar with, and liked GoDaddy. Personally, I think you are worrying too much about your margins. If this is an adjunct to your WebHosting business you can practically give the domain away for free and charge them an extra $1/month for their free domain (built into to webhosting price, of course). That's $12 per registration which makes even DomainSmarty profitable.

I would also consider your ease of use. Giving your customers a control panel is normally required of any reseller. With either eNom or WWD you get peace of mind of having good control panels from reliable reseller registrars.

[stub]

I just had dinner. So can't edit my last post. You could even try out eNom's service for free if you sign up with DomainSmarty (I have no affiliation to them) without even having to pay any upfront annual fee. Check out their prices here... http://www.domainsmarty.com/resellers.php

[jagarco]

Originally Posted by stub

GoDaddy Reseller is WWD Reseller. I use the term interchangeably. But you can usually find a cheaper deal than the $99 if you go as a WWD Reseller sub-account. But you'd need to check their registration & renewal prices before you sign up.

I used to be a WWD Reseller, but dropped it after I negotiated a better deal with GoDaddy directly, because I wasn't actually reselling domains. So I'm unfamiliar with their current prices. Where did you get the $7.67 price from?

For me personally, I don't like or fully trust sub-accounts, although some are very trustworthy. I'd pay the extra $20/yr to be a top level WWD Reseller.

So you can calculate your per domain cost. Register 100 domains a year and add $1 to the domain registration cost for comparison purposes. Register 1000/yr and add $0.10 per new registration or renewal.

eNom are also an excellent Reseller. They're the biggest and best in the business. You can get a free account with a Reseller like DomainSmarty (whom I trust) with $8.95 registrations. I think that is a great deal, personally.

The only reason I suggested WWD over eNom was because you said you were already familiar with, and liked GoDaddy. Personally, I think you are worrying too much about your margins. If this is an adjunct to your WebHosting business you can practically give the domain away for free and charge them an extra $1/month for their free domain (built into to webhosting price, of course). That's $12 per registration which makes even DomainSmarty profitable.

I would also consider your ease of use. Giving your customers a control panel is normally required of any reseller. With either eNom or WWD you get peace of mind of having good control panels from reliable reseller registrars.

thank you very much for your info, yes, I think I'm worrying too much for the margins, I'm actually willing to pay more for it just by having it all automated and well structured.
I'm going to sign up for WHMCS anyway and they have some partnerships with eNom and ResellerClub that may actually come handy after all.

thanks

[stub]

WHMCS is a good way to go. They don't support WWD but they do support any eNom account, whether your an ETP or a sub-reseller. I do recall, reading one complaint about using WHMCS own sub-reseller account with eNom. I don't now recall the details. So an independent sub-reseller might be the better option. Also, WHMCS hides the vagaries of a registrar's control panel, which would be good in the case of Reseller Club, which I personally view as horrid and non-intuitive. So if you have to have your clients login to Reseller Club to manage their domains, I'd still go with eNom. But that's my personal opinion, others seem love Reseller Club. For me it's a no-contest, eNom's Control Panel is light years superior to Reseller Club's.

Oh. I remember now the complaint. Somebody wanted to get support from eNom, but eNom told them to get support from their upper reseller, WHMCS, which wasn't forthcoming. That's one reason I like DomainSmarty. They will give you that support.

[tulaweb]

Originally Posted by stub

Oh. I remember now the complaint. Somebody wanted to get support from eNom, but eNom told them to get support from their upper reseller, WHMCS, which wasn't forthcoming. That's one reason I like DomainSmarty. They will give you that support.

It's certainly been my experience that WHMCS's support for everything including eNom is great

[stub]

I only reported what I'd read. So if there is a vote for great registrar support in WHMCS, I bow to someone who knows better than me. That's great to hear, for the OP, at least.

[WHMCS-John]

We do provide support for our eNom sub-accounts. We can fix most issues, but we do have to open a ticket with eNom for more complicated issues; as does any ETP. This can mean it takes a while to get a reply - especially if they have to investigate.