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[Mad_J]

Here is the announcement email:

Hello,

We want to say "thank you" to all of you helping us to bring VPSHive to this level.

As of noon today, VPSHive is available to the general public - we have gone LIVE!

Beginning Monday, January 25th, you will be able to convert your accounts from your Beta account to a Regular VPShive account.

You will receive a separate e-mail about the sign up and conversion on Monday January 25th.

Again, thanks to all of you for your participation in our beta program.

Thanks,
VPSHive Team

http://www.vpshive.com/

[flyah]

and its expensive. You have to pay for 512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB SPace for $45/month.

It's like paying for a Wiredtree/ServInt VPS already.

[mainpipe]

Originally Posted by flyah

and its expensive. You have to pay for 512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB SPace for $45/month.

It's like paying for a Wiredtree/ServInt VPS already.

I agree. You could get a managed vps w/ more bandwidth (+ control panel) from ServInt.

I have been playing around with the VPShive beta. The performance has been great... along with the network. But, while fair, the pricing isn't exactly inspiring. Actually, the specs/pricing is almost identical to slicehost.

However, the cpu power appears to be better w/ VPShive vs. slicehost.

[flyah]

Originally Posted by mainpipe

I agree. You could get a managed vps w/ more bandwidth (+ control panel) from ServInt.

I have been playing around with the VPShive beta. The performance has been great... along with the network. But, while fair, the pricing isn't exactly inspiring. Actually, the specs/pricing is almost identical to slicehost.

However, the cpu power appears to be better w/ VPShive vs. slicehost.

Well, even if the port speed is 1GBPS, I think they should have given at least 500gb minimum on their $45 Plan. Servercomplete offers 1024MB/40GB Space/450gg Bandwidth/ Xen for the same price of $45 and they have 100% uptime as well.


Btw, I like VPShive's panel. The speed is decent here in Asia and the vps is stable. But their pricing is way too high!

[fabrini]

There is a grammar error on your homepage:

White label Control panel for reseller's and there clients
should read
White label Control panel for resellers and their clients

[linuxclark]

there are lots of good reviews for the vpshive from beta tester, $45 is more expensive than I espected

[Dannyarr]

I tested it briefly - it was nice but for that pricing you can get managed services with similar or better specs at top VPS providers so passing on this one.

[JohnnyUtah]

I actually think you guys overpriced your services on this one.
Thats too bad.

[the_pm]

It's unfortunate that it is so difficult to quantify the value of reliability and service, because given all of our experience with Gigenet, $45 seems like a very reasonable price to pay for a decent VPS plan with a company that manages their affairs and their clients so well.

Is it really just a numbers game to you all? Is the entire value of a purchase located in the hardware, or do you suppose there's something more to that pricing? Think about it, because a host that treats its customers as well as Gigenet and is so committed to a solid infrastructure should not be subjected to quibbles over a few bucks here or there. You come to appreciate the value of something when you discover part of the reason you are successful is because your upstream providers give you a successful hosting environment.

If you want to bash a company over a $45 price tag, you'd better have more to say about them than "512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB SPace." So much isn't being told when you boil them down to mere numbers like this.

[Cape Dave]

Yes, it pains me when people simply say, I can get something similar for cheaper. People, you can ALWAYS get something cheaper. So what? That fact, since it is ALWAYS true, simply has no real bearing on the situation.

Heck, if I switched hosts every time a cheaper one came along, I would have been kicked off WHT LONG ago

[RavC]

Originally Posted by the_pm

It's unfortunate that it is so difficult to quantify the value of reliability and service, because given all of our experience with Gigenet, $45 seems like a very reasonable price to pay for a decent VPS plan with a company that manages their affairs and their clients so well.

Is it really just a numbers game to you all? Is the entire value of a purchase located in the hardware, or do you suppose there's something more to that pricing? Think about it, because a host that treats its customers as well as Gigenet and is so committed to a solid infrastructure should not be subjected to quibbles over a few bucks here or there. You come to appreciate the value of something when you discover part of the reason you are successful is because your upstream providers give you a successful hosting environment.

If you want to bash a company over a $45 price tag, you'd better have more to say about them than "512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB SPace." So much isn't being told when you boil them down to mere numbers like this.

Excellent post. 'Numbers' rarely tell the whole story -- or even part of it! And that's true not just for hosting, but throughout society (cars, computers, stereos, and even property). Ultimately the value of something is reflected by the amount someone is prepared to pay for something.. and I suspect many will be quite satisfied with Gigenet's offerings! There are many English idioms that touch on this subject, and sadly all too many posts on WHT that reflect it.

[mainpipe]

Originally Posted by the_pm

It's unfortunate that it is so difficult to quantify the value of reliability and service, because given all of our experience with Gigenet, $45 seems like a very reasonable price to pay for a decent VPS plan with a company that manages their affairs and their clients so well.

If you want to bash a company over a $45 price tag, you'd better have more to say about them than "512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB Space." So much isn't being told when you boil them down to mere numbers like this.

All very valid points. But speaking for myself, I was anticipating more of a "WOW" factor when VPShive went live. When I saw the final website & packages, I was simply underwhelmed. Don't get me wrong, the core vps product is robust and worth the money. I have nothing bad to say about the network, the hardware, or their xen setup.

AGAIN: the core vps product is robust and worth the money!

But primarily, its the specs & the marketing that sell the product. The specs are basically the same as everywhere else. I was expecting to see at least more Ram, HD space, or bandwidth than the 'other guys'. In the end, we got exactly the same or a little less. I thought that since they own/control the datacenter (hardware, network, etc.) that they would be able to provide more.

In my opinion, now they have to sell themselves as to why they are better.

And I don't think they have done a good enough job differentiating themselves from the competition. They need to tell us and show us how their hardware is better, the network is better, and how they will support it all better. I haven't seen that yet. So until then, we can only compare the "512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB Space".

[rabge]

2Gb/80gb/800gb..
for 140/month?
nty

[the_pm]

Originally Posted by mainpipe

All very valid points. But speaking for myself, I was anticipating more of a "WOW" factor when VPShive went live. When I saw the final website & packages, I was simply underwhelmed. Don't get me wrong, the core vps product is robust and worth the money. I have nothing bad to say about the network, the hardware, or their xen setup.

AGAIN: the core vps product is robust and worth the money!

But primarily, its the specs & the marketing that sell the product. The specs are basically the same as everywhere else. I was expecting to see at least more Ram, HD space, or bandwidth than the 'other guys'. In the end, we got exactly the same or a little less. I thought that since they own/control the datacenter (hardware, network, etc.) that they would be able to provide more.

In my opinion, now they have to sell themselves as to why they are better.

And I don't think they have done a good enough job differentiating themselves from the competition. They need to tell us and show us how their hardware is better, the network is better, and how they will support it all better. I haven't seen that yet. So until then, we can only compare the "512MB Ram/200GB Bandwidth/20GB Space".

Presumably, you received this email because you participated in the VPSHive beta, is that correct? If so, then you have much more to say than others, because everyone else is debating from a very uninformed position.

How stable has the environment been? How has their support been? Have transfer speeds been good for you? As a dedicated customer, I've found them to be outstanding on all counts, which greatly increases the value of the hardware/stats they're selling. It seems you agree with this position.

A company doesn't differentiate itself by how well it markets itself. A company differentiates itself by how well it lives up to its promises and the expectations of its customers. Have they met your expectations? Are they worth their price to you? You are in a unique position to assess this that others in this thread are not, unless they have experience with Gigenet and simply haven't mentioned it. Anyone else who calls it "too expensive" without the benefit of first-hand experience is basing that decision on much too little information, or is revealing their sole buying criteria. I thought, as professionals in the industry, or at least as better-informed hosters, that we would be beyond this mentality.

[Spirit]

the_pm they didn't flame gigenet, but realisticly stated that they can get same or even more with others ALSO reputable, stable, well known VPS providers.
Yes, they might be outstanding on all counts but what's wrong if people say that there around are also others outstanding on all counts fully managed VPS providers which offer more for this price. Relax please.