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  1. #101
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    Sadly, the server went down and that's why the results are not updated yet.
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    All the data and configurations are fine, I just haven't gotten around to re-enabling access for you guys yet. I needed it for other purposes, and I'll try to re-enable it again shortly.

    Thanks for the patience.
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    Any updates?

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    Unfortunately, in a very fortunate sort of way, we got busy and had to put the node into production.
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    OK, so what are the official results?
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  6. #106
    Can LiteSpeed install in cPanel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostingdk View Post
    Can LiteSpeed install in cPanel ?
    It can be integrated / work with cPanel
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    http://beta.litespeedtech.com/suppor...:apache:cpanel

    I've considered switching to litespeed, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what kind of hosting solution its good for.

    What I mean is what type of set up would it be most advantageous to use it in, with what kind of websites, etc. and in those cases what advantage does it have over Apache?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fremio View Post
    What I mean is what type of set up would it be most advantageous to use it in, with what kind of websites, etc. and in those cases what advantage does it have over Apache?
    Anyone who needs a full-featured web server and wants performance, really... Apache performs like crap right out of the box, and LSWS is a drop-in replacement for it. So you basically can choose anything from these options:

    1) Live with the performance you're getting;
    2) Tweak Apache (YMMV, in many situations people are convinced that Apache just can't compete)
    3) Throw money/hardware at the problem
    4) Install LSWS.

    If the costs of the licensing is worth less to you than the headache of doing the other three options, then I'd say it's for you.
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  10. #110
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    Isn't this 2010? Why is it when I see LightSpeed post benchmarks they only post Apache 2.0 results? Where are the Apache 2.2 results?
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    How about vs Apache 2.2 + Worker + FastCGI + mod_deflate + suexec + eaccelerator?

    That seems to be more relative to LiteSpeed sans the eaccelerator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWH-David View Post
    How about vs Apache 2.2 + Worker + FastCGI + mod_deflate + suexec + eaccelerator?

    That seems to be more relative to LiteSpeed sans the eaccelerator.
    If you or someone else can provide the server, I'm sure we can manage to continue this. It was pretty interesting while it lasted.
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    Sure, we have some available servers. I would like to see some graphs to go with it.

    I'd be willing to do it myself sometime in the future when I have time otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by SceneSRV View Post
    If you or someone else can provide the server, I'm sure we can manage to continue this. It was pretty interesting while it lasted.
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    Drop me a PM if you need someone to test lighttpd out.

    Lighttpd + FastCGI + XCache = win
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    Not in a shared environment. In a shared environment that = certain failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by SceneSRV View Post
    Drop me a PM if you need someone to test lighttpd out.

    Lighttpd + FastCGI + XCache = win
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    I performed a AB test comparison between PreFork + suPHP and Worker + FastCGI + suexec + eaccelerator and set it in place on a few of our production servers. The performance difference is quite dramatic. The problem I am seeing with FastCGI in a shared environment is stability. It seems to be flaky on our larger client numbered servers. I have played with the worker settings quite a bit to no affect. Anyone else experience this? From what I have read it seems LiteSpeed is quite stable.

    Quote Originally Posted by UWH-David View Post
    How about vs Apache 2.2 + Worker + FastCGI + mod_deflate + suexec + eaccelerator?

    That seems to be more relative to LiteSpeed sans the eaccelerator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWH-David View Post
    Not in a shared environment. In a shared environment that = certain failure.
    Yeah, I agree. Apache or LSWS(<3 using apache configuration file) are still way to go for a shared hosting environment.

    suEXEC/suPHP is a must in a shared environment as well, due to security reasons.
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    do we have something like suphp/suexec on litespeed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixmox View Post
    do we have something like suphp/suexec on litespeed?
    Yes, LSWS does support suEXEC but you can be using suPHP(via httpd.conf configured with LSWS) as well. It makes LSWS a good choice for a shared environment.

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    Actually, that wiki page about litespeed in cpanel is outdated.

    The newer versions integrate even better and are even more cpanel aware.

    I've yet to see another http service integrate into cpanel, let alone have the httpd.conf/.htaccess compatibility that litespeed has.

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    So, anyone did more tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerOrigin View Post
    I'll state that Apache will sadly lose based on our own internal tests but we're probably not the definition of Apache *experts*.

    We tested with mod_fcgid / PHP 5 / Worker vs LiteSpeed's LSAPI PHP5 FCGI implementation.

    LiteSpeed was faster not by leaps and bounds but was faster. The issue we had was we simply ran Apache out of resources and it croaked =/

    We had much better results when testing LiteSpeed vs nginx - whereas nginx rocked yet still didn't fully beat out LiteSpeed when it come to dynamic content.

    I'll definitely follow this thread, I'm curious to see what you guys come up with.

    I would make sure to make the test valid, be sure to use Apache 2.2 | MPM | PHP 5.3.1

    Try Apache 2.2 MPM event mod_fcgid

    You need to tune mod_fcgid for PHP.

    Sadly you'll have higher php cpu usage then LiteSpeed, XCache and such will maintain the opcode cache unlike apache 2.2 it wastes away fast.

    Just imagine apache as you'll need twice as much cpu, twice as much ram. We have the graphs.
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    hmmm, I have a couple of servers I could donate for testing. I'd just need to re-install. If people are interested in running the tests, I'd be glad to co-ordinate & donate the hardware for a few days.

    Personally, I've never been able to get siege to work all that well (it worked but wasn't really "stressing" the box). With ab in our internal testing, we saw pretty much what was posted earlier in the thread. Litespeed wins over nginx by a small margin, lighttp did ok but sometimes when testing lighttp would spike load and crash the box, apache couldn't keep up regardless of what we did to it. Litespeed, we never tweaked anything and we really liked that - just install and you're guaranteed good performance, good compatibility.

    We have available:

    * a single 5520 w/6gb ram and a 500gb sata.
    * a dual 5520 w/18gb ram and 4 x 1tb wd re on an adaptec 5405
    * a dual 5520 w/48gb ram and 8 x 1tb wd re on an adaptec 5805

    Probably use the two dual socket boxes connected via internal network to do the testing. If there is any interest in finishing this test, we need someone to test litespeed, someone for nginx, someone for lighttpd and someone for apache. Need to come up with a proper test methodology for everyone to follow. I've no experience with siege, so if someone wants to come up with a way to do that testing...

    Anyways, I'll check back later to see if there is any interest.

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    here is an Nginx vg Lightspeed test result. Seems nginx is better http://turnkeye.com/blog/2010/04/ngi...-test-magento/
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcPanel View Post
    here is an Nginx vg Lightspeed test result. Seems nginx is better http://turnkeye.com/blog/2010/04/ngi...-test-magento/
    I don't know if I believe that benchmark. Litespeed has tested very well for us recently. Also if you look at the results, the litespeed gave 600 some length errors. It seems like they were testing different pages or something. For all you know the loads were different but this has made me curious a little bit so I'll see if I can get a litespeed vs nginx test up on the same server/files to do some actual comparisons within a week or so.

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