11-23-2002, 03:15 AM
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Junior Guru Wannabe
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wierd DNS problem.. cant navigat to server page, but can send email..
hey i got this really wierd problem after i changed my IP of my Linux server yesterday...
I cant use a computer that is on the same network (a windows xp machine) and open up IE and type in my server address (IP or Domain).. the browser gives me a standard Cannot find server or DNS Error
the wierd thing is, that if I send an email to the domain, it gets it no problem and forwards it to a seperate email account that i can go and get from the same windows xp machine.
As well, I ask other people in different states if they can goto the site, and they say yes no problem.
Any Ideas? I have a feeling its really something stupid, I just cant figure it out. Thanks in advance 
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11-23-2002, 05:31 AM
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Hi - it sounds like just a DNS propagation issue where your ISP has a cached entry for your domain, just sit tight and wait about 48hours for the entry to time out.
HTH
YB
PS I assume that you can get to your domain with the IP address (if it has a dedicated IP)
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11-23-2002, 05:32 AM
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Are you using some form of caching/proxy server?
Or have you rebooted your computer since the IP was changed? If you haven't, try going start->run, type cmd, then type 'ipconfig -flushdns' to remove all the dns info that your system has cached. if that doesn't work, reboot.
There have been two cases where I've seen this happen: 2k/XP caching the dns, or a novell borderbound proxy being itself.
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11-23-2002, 05:37 AM
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well, the server is on a static IP and I cannot access it via IP.
As well, I did reboot, did the flushdns in ipconfig, but it doesn't work.. its really really strange..
As for waiting 48 hours, Since both the sytems are running off the same ISP, and since the emails to the domain are getting to the server, I imagine the ISP would be updated or it wouldnt work right?
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11-23-2002, 05:39 AM
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oh, the URL is www.pagegods.com if that helps, the IP is 147.something. I believe.
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11-23-2002, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by zoom
well, the server is on a static IP and I cannot access it via IP.
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My DNS says the IP = 142.179.67.159 - is that correct, if so I can access the site from the IP - so if you cant then its not a dns problem.
Quote:
Originally posted by zoom
As for waiting 48 hours, Since both the sytems are running off the same ISP, and since the emails to the domain are getting to the server, I imagine the ISP would be updated or it wouldnt work right?
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Not necessarily - we do not know how the original email was set up therefore cant tell if it is using that or not ????
HTH
YB
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11-23-2002, 01:41 PM
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yes thats the right IP..... the fact that everyone else can see the site but i cant would point me to blieve it it something with my computer, but problem is there are 4 systems on the network and none of them can access the site...
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11-23-2002, 02:03 PM
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So everyone but the systems on your network can access the site? Are all systems on your network oin the same subnet, or more specific, the IP that you changed, is it still on the same subnet as the rest of the systems?
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11-23-2002, 02:26 PM
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well I have two static IP's from my ISP, the server is on one IP, and all the other systems go through a router on the other IP (I tried taking off the router and directly connecting a system, but it still had the same problem)
I am not to sure what a subnet is, but Both IPs changed at the same time, so at the same time the IP was assigned to the server there was another one assigned to the router.
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11-23-2002, 02:37 PM
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Hail Eris !
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try doing tracerurte from one of the systems on you internal network to the system which ip changed. Then you might see how are your windows machines trying to access linux box.
What is your router? Can you telnet to it ? Can you check if it can access linux box directly.
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11-23-2002, 02:43 PM
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k, i did a tracert to the domain of the server, from a machine behind the router. It succesfully hit the router then named the server IP on the fist step, but after that it times out over and over and over again. I must say that I dont think its the router problem, because if i go outside the router the same thing happens....
I have a SMC router, I can loginto it and it gives me a whack of options, i am not sure how to go in and try to access the linux boc directly though.
Sasha, I must take a moment to thank you for you taking time to help me here. Thank you!
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11-23-2002, 03:32 PM
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Hail Eris !
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Quote:
Originally posted by zoom
Sasha, I must take a moment to thank you for you taking time to help me here. Thank you!
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Do not. As I do not think I helped you at all. If I understand this correctly problem is in the router as the only machines that can not reach your server by its IP are the ones behind this router. I never put my hands on the SMC router so I can not help you with this unless you want to catch me later today on AIM or something so we can both learn something about this router.
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11-23-2002, 03:50 PM
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no, sorry to not be clear, I took the router totally out of the network and directly hooked a system up to the internet, and it wouldnt work
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11-23-2002, 04:43 PM
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11-23-2002, 04:59 PM
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wow chet... thats cool! Thanks! I am not to sure what that means though... I actually use HN.ORG as my name servers, something there is screwed? should I delete the record then enter it again?
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