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12-10-2009, 11:35 PM #1Newbie
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does number of years of registration matter for seo
I've seen speculation in that past that domains that are registered for several years into the future have a (small) advantage over domains that are only paid one year in advance. Does anyone know the current status of this?
I really like 1and1 for domain name registration but they only allow you to pay a year at a time, and I wondering if this matters at all. Does anyone have any real proof one way or another?
Thanks!
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12-10-2009, 11:44 PM #2Disabled
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If there is any impact it is marginal. SEO is about anchor text and building back links, preferably quality back links. Learn to filter out all peripheral noise.
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12-10-2009, 11:58 PM #3Newbie
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In most of the domain sales, customer will ask for domain age.
I heard that old domains will get more value than new one, but don't know why. Hope some experts will clarify this here.
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12-11-2009, 12:20 AM #4Disabled
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Depends on whether its an established site which has been archived. From a SEO perspective its generally understood that links from an established domain are stronger than those from a three week old links directory. And this is where desperate types have developed the arguments to cover a web masters future intentions. But I am not certain any of this is correct.
When you are placing your links you want to choose a site which has got a future value, so yes you look at the length of time a domain has been around. But does Google take the age of a domain into account? Does Google rank a ten year old domain higher than one that is six months old. Everything being equal, no I don't think so. Why would they?
Does Google place a higher value on a link that has been in place for five years over a link that is eleven months old? Yes I think they do. It makes sense and this business is 99% common sense 99% of the time.
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12-11-2009, 06:46 AM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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Domain name and age really matters SEO. The older the website the better the rankings they can get even they are not regularly optimized.
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12-11-2009, 06:52 AM #6Web Hosting Guru
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As far as I know that matters how long google knows about your domain name. That can be 5 year old domain name and only few days old for google.
Last edited by Dan Madiou; 12-11-2009 at 07:00 AM.
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12-11-2009, 07:05 AM #7Disabled
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12-11-2009, 12:09 PM #8Newbie
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hey rainchild, Thanks for all the input.
To all of you above, just to clarify, I'm not asking about how long a domain HAS been registered or around. I do think the "age" of a domain is a factor...
What I am asking about it how long into the future a domain is registered.
i.e. Does it matter if the domain is paid through 2010 (i.e. one year) or through 2014 (i.e. five years). 1and1 will only let a customer pay for a year at a time.
It makes sense that the longer a domain is registered into the future, the more "commitment" is shown...
But, does this matter "very much" or "even at all"?
I'm wondering if anyone has seen any real evidence on this and not just guesses.
Thanks again!
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12-11-2009, 02:18 PM #9Disabled
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Nope. Just another urban legend.
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12-11-2009, 04:02 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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I think it matters.
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12-11-2009, 05:19 PM #11Newbie
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12-11-2009, 05:45 PM #12Web Template Master
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The problem with SEO is that no one has the exact answers/facts.
Personally I do believe it will make a difference. It may be because the older the domain is the higher the chance of having more back links rather than Google prefers older domains.█ Zomex ~ Templates & services for web hosting resellers since 2009!
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12-11-2009, 07:21 PM #13New Member
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yea this is right
it gives an idea for SE that the site is not spammy
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12-12-2009, 12:45 AM #14Disabled
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SE don't think. Spiders don't reason. They just spider and I am sorry to say it but you are wrong. Horribly wrong.
Wastage more like it. SEO takes time, link building is monotonous repetitive work and most people are impatient. So they dream up all sort of nonsense to keep themselves busy while they wait
A good reason for picking up an existing domain. Yes you might get targeted traffic, yes you might get key word rich back links and the question I would ask is whether there are niche brokers who specialise in matching buyers and sellers. There must be.
But right off topic. The demand for second hand domains became part of the PR scam that became so popular and has nothing to do with laying out today's premium $$$'s for tomorrows domain name. Or does it? No ways it has any discernable impact on ones serp's but it might have a lot to do with the smoke and mirrors used to peddle that filthy green stuff no one in their right mind should be paying any attention to.
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12-12-2009, 12:55 AM #15Web Hosting Guru
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From Matt Cutts about domain age registration about how long a domain name is registered Domain Age SEO
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12-12-2009, 01:46 AM #16Disabled
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The salient points are:
It was not based upon anything google said which means they are not denying it.
Move along folks, nothing to see here. In other words, we do use it in our rankings but I would rather not make it official.
Observation from personal experience:
Nuf said
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12-12-2009, 01:58 AM #17Web Hosting Guru
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So I am curious why do you only quote people that offer their opinion, and why do you always attempt to devalue the actual live people who have the proof?
Interesting how each time there is a post, news release, or when something comes from the horse's mouth (per say) you completely ignore that, but there can be dozens or hundreds of comments and only 1 of them are negative and that is the 1 that you point out. Seriously, how are you benefiting anyone by doing what you do, and more importantly, what is your hang up with Google anyway?Giving my opinions and thoughts the Moxie Way
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12-12-2009, 02:14 AM #18Disabled
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I work with Google on a daily basis. That is my hang up with Google but I didn't get your point. Are you saying that the comments on that video were all complimentary? Did MC answer the question? Did he in fact say anything about paying forward? Not that that had anything to do with the original question. Was that deliberate or an honest mistake on his part? Does he make mistakes? Does he work from a script? Does he ever say anything?
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12-12-2009, 02:19 AM #19Web Hosting Guru
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lol, I didn't say that all those posts were complimentary. I think you are smart enough to know why and Search Engine won't tell you everything, but he did give some good information for someone new to SEO.
I understand that you may be more analytical about things, but I assure you, most of the world isn't and you should maybe look at the good things that were said, instead of just looking for what you didn't hear. Maybe if you did that you would see a clearer picture of what is going on. This information from Google is just a place to get started and clearly states the basics of SEO and that is all there is to it.
I really don't understand why almost every post you make is so negative, this is supposed to be a helpful forum, not a place to consistantly badger reputable companies.Giving my opinions and thoughts the Moxie Way
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12-12-2009, 02:33 AM #20Disabled
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I don't badger reputable companies. I challenge what I consider to be disinformation. I badger and try to encourage other users to KISS and keep their noses clean at the same time. Tell me you have problems with that.
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12-12-2009, 02:38 AM #21Web Hosting Guru
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I have a problem with how you are treating people here. You made a nice post in another thread and I appreciate that, so please refer there http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...16#post6540216
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12-12-2009, 03:44 AM #22Disabled
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I challenge what I consider to be disinformation. Sometimes it gets confrontational. Sometmes it degenerates into a slanging match. Try to understand why. It is never personal and in this case there is no convincing reason I have come across to buy ahead.
Have you put this question to them? What do they say? Why have they adopted that policy?Last edited by rainchild; 12-12-2009 at 03:47 AM.
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12-12-2009, 12:58 PM #23Web Hosting Guru
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So becuase I challenge your "opinion" about PR for months now and you have yet to show us 1, just 1 piece of evidence that supports your claim from a reliable source, not just from some person posting a comment on a blog or forum.
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12-12-2009, 01:37 PM #24Disabled
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Did Google remove the tool everyone is talking about? If they did why did they? Are you saying that that explanation is wrong? I build links day in day out. I am obsessed with finding that elusive and mythical link that everyone whispers about. I watch the serp's like a ticker tape and I can tell you from experience that PR has never done sod all for any of my rankings.
Its the stock in trade for link pimps, fast talkers and people that would like to know a lot more than they do. Period.
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12-12-2009, 02:01 PM #25Web Hosting Guru
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From Google
#pagerank
Q: My site's PageRank has gone up / gone down / not changed in months!
A: Don't worry. In fact, don't bother thinking about it. We only update the PageRank displayed in Google Toolbar a few times a year; this is our respectful hint for you to worry less about PageRank, which is just one of over 200 signals that can affect how your site is crawled, indexed and ranked. PageRank is an easy metric to focus on, but just because it's easy doesn't mean it's useful for you as a site owner. If you're looking for metrics, we'd encourage you to check out Analytics, think about conversion rates, ROI (return on investment), relevancy, or other metrics that actually correlate to meaningful gains for your website or business.
from a google employee in the google forum
Susan Moskwa Google Employee
10/15/09
We've been telling people for a long time that they shouldn't focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it's the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it. :-)
More details on why not to obsess over PageRank here:
http://sites.google.com/site/webmasterhelpforum/en/faq--crawling--indexing---ranking#pagerank
The reason they took it out of the wmt is because people were focusing on it way too much and they point out that there is more important things that should be worried about. If it didn't play a factor at all, they would do away with it completely, but none the less, it is still there, it still shows a metric, and it stills has some value, but it is not to be the #1 focus for any webmaster.Giving my opinions and thoughts the Moxie Way
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