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    * Non organic vs. Organic



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    She has gone bananas over organic...hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by RajanUrs View Post


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6d7JKS53w

    She has gone bananas over organic...hahaha
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    DUMB!!! She is the reason why I think people of her nature are stupid! A banana is a banana! Just eat it and shut up!
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    Penn and Teller are great, I even have a chuckle at their "********!" shows on the subjects I don't agree with them.

    ... and am I the only one who always thought organic fruits and vegetables tasted like crap? I thought the reason for eating them was avoiding all the poisons and preservatives and stuff, not because they tasted magical.
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    avoiding all the poisons and preservatives and stuff, not because they tasted magical.
    You're right atleast that's why I only buy organic.

    Take a look at the ingredients with non-organic items and organic items you will quickly see a big difference.

    Typically non-organic items will have a mile long list of ingredients you can't even pronounce or have never even heard of.

    The problem is a lot of people don't seem to care what goes into their body they just put too much trust into the companies they buy from.

    Organic foods you'll notice have very simple ingredients that anyone can understand.

    No cheap ingredients, no preservatives, no unnecessary ingredients.

    I've never met anyone before who buys organic foods for the "taste".

    I probably couldn't tell with bananas but I can tell with other foods which is organic and which is not since cheap/unnecessary ingredients are pretty obvious if you're not used to eating them regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geedeedee View Post

    I probably couldn't tell with bananas but I can tell with other foods which is organic and which is not since cheap/unnecessary ingredients are pretty obvious if you're not used to eating them regularly.
    You just look at the tripled price and organic splattered all over it
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    To have all organic is a nicety for the wealthier 1/2 of the world, but reality dictates there needs to be high yield farming methods to feed the 7 billion inhabitants of our globe.
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    Some organic foods are actually cheaper than non-organic foods.

    It mostly depends what you buy and where you buy it.

    Can also find some good sales too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSHocker View Post
    To have all organic is a nicety for the wealthier 1/2 of the world, but reality dictates there needs to be high yield farming methods to feed the 7 billion inhabitants of our globe.
    Very good point. This would seem to be true unless everyone essentially had individual gardens, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Very good point. This would seem to be true unless everyone essentially had individual gardens, eh?

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    Of course if a state had a drought, they going to need to borrow from other gardens, ones with better weather. Or if you live in the desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSHocker View Post
    To have all organic is a nicety for the wealthier 1/2 of the world, but reality dictates there needs to be high yield farming methods to feed the 7 billion inhabitants of our globe.
    Good point. To expand on that, I think richer people want to spend more money on food. Grocers recognized this and invented the organic brand - to target the wealthier customer.

    I'm sure organics have some benefits - I doubt this industry is surviving on pure marketing hype. But its definitely a 'richer' country fad
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    "Natural farming is not just for growing crops, it is for the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
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    And here I thought we were talking about Chemistry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geedeedee View Post
    I probably couldn't tell with bananas but I can tell with other foods which is organic and which is not since cheap/unnecessary ingredients are pretty obvious if you're not used to eating them regularly.
    I second that! Don't know about bananas but apples taste absolutely different when they are organic! And they are actually tastier for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fun1 View Post
    I second that! Don't know about bananas but apples taste absolutely different when they are organic! And they are actually tastier for me!
    Out of curiosity, have you ever had a friend do a blind taste test with the two different kinds of apples? I'm not going to argue they taste different, nor that you genuinely think the organics taste better - but it'd be interesting to find out whether or not you just think they taste better because you know they're organic.

    Quote Originally Posted by RajanUrs View Post
    "Natural farming is not just for growing crops, it is for the cultivation and perfection of human beings."
    - Masanobu Fukuoka, the famous Japanese microbiologist and soil scientist who pioneered the art of nature farming.
    Sure, but as others have said - there just isn't enough fertile soil on the planet to farm everything organically and still feed everyone. The guy that recently died who pioneered genetically modified crops is credited with saving millions of lives from starvation. Heck, if one wanted to be a jerk they could easily postulate that anyone with more than one kid who's family only eats organic fruits and vegetables is a hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    And here I thought we were talking about Chemistry.


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    It's not just me then that tends to 'only eat organic stuff' then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwaggle View Post

    Sure, but as others have said - there just isn't enough fertile soil on the planet to farm everything organically and still feed everyone. The guy that recently died who pioneered genetically modified crops is credited with saving millions of lives from starvation. Heck, if one wanted to be a jerk they could easily postulate that anyone with more than one kid who's family only eats organic fruits and vegetables is a hypocrite.
    Doctors and nutritionists also figured out feeding a bowl of peanuts or a few spoons of peanut butter to malnutritioned kids can make them healthier.

    Peanuts is the easiest to grow in most parts of the world. Traditional farmers in India grow peanuts during off season...they also grow a millet called ragi which is a very nutritious cheap food for the rural people. And they grow leguminous plants like horsegram which is a very good feed for cattle and horses. Onions, garlic, is also grown during off season depending on farmers needs and soil/weather condition.

    This is 'organic farming' which is practiced in India for thousands of years. Crop rotation and leguminous plants helps to recharge the soil for the next season. India is living proof where millions of poor people have survived without genetically modified food. Yet millions of Indian suffer from poor health and malnutrition. It is not because of lack of food...it because of lack of knowledge and awareness of dietary needs.

    Farming industry is also driven by greed and controled by politics. If there is a serious food crisis any country can declare an emergency to ensure proper food crops are grown and the supply to the people. However we still find many developing and poor countries growing crops which are not directly useful for human consumption. Or agriculture sector being neglected by the governments. In lands where fruit and nut trees can be grown you will find tobacco, rubber, tea, coffee being grown. In a country where fishing in the sea can be a very useful industry they will instead make chewing gums and cola.
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    The biggest difference I can taste is non-organic and organic milk. The latter just tastes better and less residual residue on the tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwitchFX View Post
    The biggest difference I can taste is non-organic and organic milk. The latter just tastes better and less residual residue on the tongue.
    I don't know if I have ever tried organic milk. I'll have to try it sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    I don't know if I have ever tried organic milk. I'll have to try it sometime.

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    Yeah, I didn't know it existed until I saw it at the store. It's probably 20 cents more than the regular milk at most. It's got a better flavor, finishes clean as I said earlier, the taste is more rich even at 2% (sorta tastes like whole milk), doesn't curdle as easy when heated.

    I'm not a big milk drinker, it just goes in my coffee, some teas, or when I decide to make something like hot chocolate. You can get away with making a creamy Alfredo sauce with milk, light cream and then the other ingredients compared to full heavy cream. A pinch of flour early in the cooking process goes a long way.

    As far as fruits and vegetables go, I can't taste a difference at all. I can taste whether or not it's picked up the smell of that certain department in the produce section. The odor permeates the flesh I guess.

    As far as meat goes, again, I can't taste a difference. Although, good meat usually comes with a hefty price. Your $5 slab of organic meat isn't going to taste good as your $15-25 dollar slab of USDA aged meat that everyone wants to buy because it tastes better and melts in your mouth. Either way you spend money and consume the same thing, so it's sort of like a catch-22, but not.

    So I don't really buy into the organic thing. I know how farms work, I spend a lot of time during the early spring season in orchard country in California. I know how the family owned farms work and the corporate owned ones. I know what the organic farm next door gets from the commercial farm next to them. You get some organic wholesome value in your food, but it ain't as organic as they make it out to be. Organic food is just more expensive because they have to take so many measure to make it as such. I grow stuff in my side yard too, but I use commercial quality product so I can enjoy what I grow. I don't think my self-grown produce is organic, far from it, but not the same stuff as commercial stuff. Anyway, I'll shutup now since I'm pretty much rambling on, Mike, LOL.



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