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  1. #1
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    San Diego, Phoenix or Las Vegas

    Hello everyone,

    I am writing because we need an advice from real professionals, who are on this board

    We need to put 2 servers to DC, with plans to expand to maybe 5 or 6 servers within 1 year. We are still deciding whether to take tower servers or go for rack servers, and our decision will depend on your advices too.
    We are in San Diego, so we are looking to San Diego DC's., but also we are considering Phoenix or Las Vegas. Reason for that is that San Diego is earthquake/tsunami/wildfires danger zone.
    My questions:

    1. Would you advice to take 1/3 cabinet vs shared space?
    2. Are there good DC's in Vegas and Phoenix you would recommend?
    3. What are the reasonable prices for 1/3 cabinet?
    4. What else we should be looking for?

    I will really appreciate your advices.

    Best regards.

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    1. Would you advice to take 1/3 cabinet vs shared space?

    Depends on your case, is it mission critical stuff? Is price important?

    2. Are there good DC's in Vegas and Phoenix you would recommend?

    We are at 120 E Van Buuren in Phoenix, very happy there.

    3. What are the reasonable prices for 1/3 cabinet?

    Without power and bandwidth: 250-400 USD

    4. What else we should be looking for?

    Good connectivity ofcourse, oh and I would go for rackservers for sure !

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    I have been providing colocation out of 120 E Van Buren in Phoenix AZ for 6 years plus and I would have to say that it offers you the best options in Phoenix. It is the major carrier neutral DC in phoenix and has been for years.

    Building is owned by Digital Realty Trust and Telx handles all the fiber xconnects in the building.
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    I've had a good pre-sales experience recently with PhoenixNAP. They definitely get my vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanJ View Post
    You should be at WELL under $500 for this including power and bandwidth.
    I didn't saw any bandwidth requirements, if he want's to push a Gig i think it will be hard to stay under 500 bucks ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
    I've had a good pre-sales experience recently with PhoenixNAP. They definitely get my vote
    When are they scheduled to open? I couldnt find that info on their site
    Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 11-04-2009 at 09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
    I've had a good pre-sales experience recently with PhoenixNAP. They definitely get my vote
    Pre-sales? Is that all?

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    Are rackservers better than towers? Why so?

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    If you're in a data center, rackmount servers are ideal because they mount properly in racks and they take advantage of the data center's hot and cold row orientation...

    If you're just running something at home, a tower works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burash View Post
    Are rackservers better than towers? Why so?
    in rack/cabinet environments it is better for cooling, on top of that it is also easier to manager when you mount each rackmount in the rack then just putting rackservers on top of eachother.

    I also think that if you take shared colocation it will be a requirement to have rackmounted servers by most ISP's

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    lol, there is a lot of PhoenixNAP promotion going on in this thread

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    I have to ask, what does NAP stand for?
    bigwrench

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    NAP = Network Access Point

    Facilities that advertise NAP in their name tend to offer a great number of carriers and connectivity options. Some of these facilities are major peering exchange points.
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    *

    Still shopping for colo, got really nice quotes from NAP and others.

    Asked for a 1/3 cabinet from castleaccess.com, and here is what I got:

    Aero Drive Third Cabinet 36-Month Term Black Room
    ProductQuantityPriceTotal

    Third Cabinet- $350.00

    Includes 14 RUs of cabinet space

    Redundant power & network connectivity

    Includes Automatic Transfer Switch (ATS)


    Power

    6 AMPs, 120V Circuit (Usable)IncludedIncludedIncluded

    6 AMPs, 120V Circuit (Redundant)IncludedIncludedIncluded


    Data Center Services

    Remote Hands Services - Included

    Monitoring (10 probes) - Included


    Network Services

    5 Mbps. Managed Multi-Homed Internet Access (Burstable to 10 Mbps.) - $80.00/Mbp - $400.00

    Bursting Rate is $25.00 above (CIR rate)$115.00*

    --

    Installation Fee- $300.00

    Installation Credit - ($300.00)
    (Waived if 36-Month Term is signed)

    Total Monthly Recurring Charges$750.00




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    Good luck getting your 6 servers in there with only 6Amps. No way I would touch that let alone with a 3 year term.
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    Thumbs down

    I am not going there, no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon-e-mouse View Post
    Pre-sales? Is that all?
    No, I've heard free food is also good Makes big difference for some people
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    Go to phoenix -- it is better than vegas. Only nice thing about Vegas is you can mix business with pleasure. but if you arent going to visit the datacenter much, then go with phoenix, there are more choices there and better pricing. But i would go only with a major provider. If they arent a publically traded company i would skip them. The big firms are much more accountable

  20. #20
    We have network in both Phoenix and Vegas. Phoenix has more network connections than vegas and 120 East Van Buren is where almost every carrier is.

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