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    Cool burst vs webnx which will you recommend

    Hi all,
    I am considering burst and webnx for dedicated server deal.
    I found burst customizeable and some of good features
    webnx is also good but cant see customization there I v sent them mail didn't get answer yet.
    burst quote I got
    $154 for
    Core2Quad Q9300 Quad Core
    8 g ddr2
    2*1 tb sata raid 1 software
    1*250 G sata
    whm/cpanel included
    ddos protection network level
    basic support

    on other hand webnx offer is $99
    Intel i7 920, 6GB ram, 1x 1TB RE3 drive only $99
    Quadcore 2.66ghz w/ HT
    6GB DDR3 Ram +$25 ($150 for the 6mo term)
    1TB WD RE3 hard drive
    2tb/100 mbps port
    in one of there special offer
    but if I customize to above situation I think they will reach the same or higher.
    webnx are unmanaged and dont know about security level of both providers too.
    My major concern is uptime, security and helping support whenever I need them.
    my ideal budget is 100-150$

    what you guys recommend me to go with?

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    How much diskspace/bandwidth are you using?

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    Not sure if webnx respond to sales on weekends but custom orders is pretty much what they do. I would definitely choose webnx over burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow View Post
    How much diskspace/bandwidth are you using?
    I need everything according to burst quote or stonger specs especially in processing , also please share your experiences about these two providers

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    Good quotes from both heh.

    I suppose having best network is more imporant than having higher spec server setup though. No point having a top spec server setup if your network is never up to allow you to make use of it lol.

    I live in UK and going by this quick Tracert I did I would choose Burst.net


    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>ping webnx.com

    Pinging webnx.com [72.37.150.10] with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 72.37.150.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>tracert webnx.com

    Tracing route to webnx.com [72.37.150.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
    2 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms 217.32.140.65
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.30
    4 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 213.120.161.2
    5 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.5
    6 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 217.41.222.178
    7 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.113
    8 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms core1-ge4-0-0.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.1
    70.65]
    9 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 62.172.103.90
    10 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms transit2-gig8/0/0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.7
    7.178]
    11 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms t2c2-ge14-0-0.uk-ilf.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.121]

    12 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms t2c1-p3-2.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.93]
    13 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms t2a1-ge4-0-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.102]

    14 23 ms 20 ms 32 ms linx.ge1-0.cr01.lhr01.mzima.net [195.66.225.15]

    15 100 ms 93 ms 104 ms eos1-0.cr01.lga02.us.mzima.net [216.193.255.45]

    16 95 ms 93 ms 104 ms xe1-0.cr01.lga01.us.mzima.net [216.193.255.213]

    17 121 ms 108 ms 108 ms te1-1.cr01.iad01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.62]
    18 130 ms 125 ms 125 ms te1-3.cr01.atl01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.53]
    19 139 ms 143 ms 143 ms te0-1.cr01.dfw01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.49]
    20 172 ms 165 ms 175 ms te1-1.cr01.phx01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.37]
    21 174 ms 179 ms 179 ms te1-1.cr01.lax02.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.33]
    22 165 ms 182 ms 169 ms ge0-webnx.cust.lax04.mzima.net [72.37.172.158]
    23 175 ms 174 ms 175 ms 72.37.150.14
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.


    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>tracert burst.net

    Tracing route to burst.net [66.96.192.202]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
    2 17 ms 16 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.65
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.14
    4 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms 213.120.161.2
    5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.5
    6 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms 217.41.222.178
    7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.113
    8 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms core2-ge10-0-0.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.
    170.89]
    9 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms core2-pos0-6-4-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.
    62]
    10 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms core2-gig15-0-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.1
    01]
    11 172 ms 22 ms 234 ms 194.74.65.6
    12 100 ms 100 ms 99 ms hostnoc.ge2-3.br01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.31.
    6]
    13 99 ms 99 ms 100 ms ec1-10.agg01.sctn01.hostnoc.net [64.191.19.6]
    14 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms burst.net [66.96.192.202]

    Trace complete.

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    I live in UK and going by this quick Tracert I did I would choose Burst.net
    That's simply because WebNX is located in Los Angeles...it doesn't mean their network is worse in any way. If the OP is closer to Los Angeles then they will experience better performance.

    You're getting a timeout on the ping because they seem to be blocking ICMP, nothing really wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow View Post
    Good quotes from both heh.

    I suppose having best network is more imporant than having higher spec server setup though. No point having a top spec server setup if your network is never up to allow you to make use of it lol.

    I live in UK and going by this quick Tracert I did I would choose Burst.net


    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>ping webnx.com

    Pinging webnx.com [72.37.150.10] with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 72.37.150.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>tracert webnx.com

    Tracing route to webnx.com [72.37.150.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
    2 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms 217.32.140.65
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.30
    4 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 213.120.161.2
    5 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.5
    6 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 217.41.222.178
    7 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.113
    8 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms core1-ge4-0-0.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.1
    70.65]
    9 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 62.172.103.90
    10 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms transit2-gig8/0/0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.7
    7.178]
    11 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms t2c2-ge14-0-0.uk-ilf.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.121]

    12 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms t2c1-p3-2.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.93]
    13 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms t2a1-ge4-0-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.102]

    14 23 ms 20 ms 32 ms linx.ge1-0.cr01.lhr01.mzima.net [195.66.225.15]

    15 100 ms 93 ms 104 ms eos1-0.cr01.lga02.us.mzima.net [216.193.255.45]

    16 95 ms 93 ms 104 ms xe1-0.cr01.lga01.us.mzima.net [216.193.255.213]

    17 121 ms 108 ms 108 ms te1-1.cr01.iad01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.62]
    18 130 ms 125 ms 125 ms te1-3.cr01.atl01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.53]
    19 139 ms 143 ms 143 ms te0-1.cr01.dfw01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.49]
    20 172 ms 165 ms 175 ms te1-1.cr01.phx01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.37]
    21 174 ms 179 ms 179 ms te1-1.cr01.lax02.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.33]
    22 165 ms 182 ms 169 ms ge0-webnx.cust.lax04.mzima.net [72.37.172.158]
    23 175 ms 174 ms 175 ms 72.37.150.14
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.


    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>tracert burst.net

    Tracing route to burst.net [66.96.192.202]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
    2 17 ms 16 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.65
    3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.32.140.14
    4 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms 213.120.161.2
    5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.5
    6 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms 217.41.222.178
    7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.41.222.113
    8 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms core2-ge10-0-0.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.
    170.89]
    9 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms core2-pos0-6-4-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.
    62]
    10 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms core2-gig15-0-0.redbus.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.200.1
    01]
    11 172 ms 22 ms 234 ms 194.74.65.6
    12 100 ms 100 ms 99 ms hostnoc.ge2-3.br01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.31.
    6]
    13 99 ms 99 ms 100 ms ec1-10.agg01.sctn01.hostnoc.net [64.191.19.6]
    14 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms burst.net [66.96.192.202]

    Trace complete.
    The routes from the UK will likely use the same carriers (PCccwbtn+HE) with either network, the difference is the distance involved. Remember LA is all the way on the west coast.

    As for the trace to webnx.com this is not accurate as this is their mzima only link and the later part is because they ignore ICMP.
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    Yeah well the "Request timed out." would put me right off. Why would they want to ignore ICMP? Many like doing a ping test to check for low latency etc so don't see why they would block that? I don't get that...

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow View Post
    Yeah well the "Request timed out." would put me right off. Why would they want to ignore ICMP? Many like doing a ping test to check for low latency etc so don't see why they would block that? I don't get that...

    Cheers
    If it puts you off then you are going to be put off by alot of locations, try ping rackspace.com, redhat.com and so on. You are very silly to believe that it is anything other than a completely meaningless metric. Their firewall filters ICMP to their own website so what? There is no need to permit ICMP.

    I cannot believe that there even needs to be a discussion relating to something that is completely meaningless.

    If you want a IP to test ICMP against all you have to do is email a potential host and they will provide one.
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    I'm not being silly, I just didn't know. There's a difference. Why do you think I asked? lol. Webnx was the first host I haven't been able to ping. I was told doing a ping test is good to check. I got "Request timed out" so I thought it was a network problem there end. Sorry for not being some server/network expert.

    Anyway, good luck with finding new host websiteguy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow View Post
    I'm not being silly, I just didn't know. There's a difference. Why do you think I asked? lol. Webnx was the first host I haven't been able to ping. I was told doing a ping test is good to check. I got "Request timed out" so I thought it was a network problem there end. Sorry for not being some server/network expert.
    My apologies I should have worded it better. At least you and others reading know now that it's meaningless and not a good way to test and in this specific case even if they permitted it, it would be pointless as their site is hosted off-network.
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    WebNX have a test IP in their dedicated server offer threads. Just because they block ICMP echo requests on their homepage's IP doesn't mean it's broken

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    WebNX any day.

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    Intel i7 920 is the best of the 2

    It's a steal that you can get it for only $99/month with 6 GB DDR2 RAM

    I would choose the i7. It's better and cheaper for you. i7 is normally priced very high so I would say go for it if webnx is selling it for 99 only
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    webnx is better.

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    Webnx have a good reputation and offer some nice deals with their offers, and burst have come a long way considering how were slammed over the many years yet now its a lot less. They do also offer different configs but you really have to look at what suits your requirements, budget, needs, and will work for you as to geography for needs required.

    Asking the opinionated is one thing, trying out for yourself is another issue and take it from there just to try if still unsure.

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    Burst - Im with them and happy.

    I feel sad that at times support and billing is slow, but overall I feel they are a good value for money.

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    WebNX is a good option from the specs and price you posted.
    Its impossible to get a i7 with 6GB RAM in that price.

    Just go for it.
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    thanks every body , I am going for webnx, also sales team replied my mail.
    I am waiting for quote and ready to pay them, I will post my experience with them as well.
    right now I am happy and excited for my new server

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    my bad guys!
    webnx is not accepting credit card from Pakistan. and I am so frustrated here. I am more than 5 year in IT biz and it made me feel so bad.
    looking for alternative with good spec server, reliable host, and who is happy to accept online payment , credit card from pakistan and give me quick dedi. server

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    for that price hell yah

    just ask them how many people they have working for them. how many clients ... blah blah. company info.

    other wise go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveunicorns View Post
    for that price hell yah

    just ask them how many people they have working for them. how many clients ... blah blah. company info.

    other wise go for it
    you didnt check my last post. also price was increased
    my final quote with them was $193
    i 7
    2x1 tb drive
    12 g ram
    13 usable ip, but they refuse to take credit card payment and asked me to pay via western union or direct bank transfer.
    which is not possible for me . I want quick online transaction n my server get ready ASAP

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    Don't you have to buy 10 i7's to get that pricing, I could of swore you did...
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    WebNX > BurstNET in each and every respect. There's just no two ways about this one.

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    it depends on what your first concern is.
    spec or bw, 2tb bw is far away from enough to me.

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    I just tried the webnx, who said they have good repution on customer service? their live chat is always online, but i can't get a reply for 1 hour. "nice work", BTW, didn't see the i7 920 plan on their website

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    Burst

    As I didn't try webnx

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    any one's vote for burst. I would love to go with webnx but they are not processing my order, they told me their billing system found high risk or what.
    I v tried to convince them allot but they want me to pay them via western union or bank transfer for 3 month.
    I bought number of domains with same info, did number of online transactions with same info and didn't get any problem except webnx.

    I am looking for alternative either burst or limestone but burst server specs look attractive to me, only thing stopping me is wht community is not supporting burst.
    any one who used burst please let me know their experiences so I can take final steps.
    also if any one can recommend best unmanaged ded. server provider in rage of 100-150 $ with decent specs.
    thanks every body

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    How about CoreNetworks http://corenetworks.net/dedicated/ they are recommended at WHT a lot too

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    Quote Originally Posted by underduck View Post
    I just tried the webnx, who said they have good repution on customer service? their live chat is always online, but i can't get a reply for 1 hour. "nice work", BTW, didn't see the i7 920 plan on their website
    The reviews speak for themselves. If you came into chat after business hours, then its possible the techs were busy with other things and away from their desks. While we do our best to man live chat after business hours, its always best to submit a ticket. You wont see the 920 on our site because its a WHT exclusive special. its clearly listed in our latest sales post as a pre-pay special.

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    we have used both, burst.net is cheaper with a lot of bandwidth, so we like them. Also, burst.net 's package is always with managed service, we always use them to upgrade and apply GRsecurity to kernel, this is a GREAT plus! They also resolve cpanel issues for you with good support speed.

    Overall, burst.net=Good

    We have used webnx.com too, they are very good on hardware specs, i920=$99 is simply a crazily great deal. Network is very stable, speed to reboot is fast. Webnx has very restrict policy on IP allocation, so if you need more IPs, you might find it a bit trying to get IPs from them

    Our lattest burst.net 's box is Q9400+8G+1TB drive, client like it
    However, I wish our next box will be webnx's i920 though

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    Hi Chris_M, please, PM. URGENTLY.

    thanks you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter-SexyWing View Post
    we have used both, burst.net is cheaper with a lot of bandwidth, so we like them. Also, burst.net 's package is always with managed service, we always use them to upgrade and apply GRsecurity to kernel, this is a GREAT plus! They also resolve cpanel issues for you with good support speed.

    Overall, burst.net=Good

    We have used webnx.com too, they are very good on hardware specs, i920=$99 is simply a crazily great deal. Network is very stable, speed to reboot is fast. Webnx has very restrict policy on IP allocation, so if you need more IPs, you might find it a bit trying to get IPs from them

    Our lattest burst.net 's box is Q9400+8G+1TB drive, client like it
    However, I wish our next box will be webnx's i920 though

    how about network and support do you recommend me burst
    I am currently considering limestone too which of them is best? I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter-SexyWing View Post
    bust.net's support is reactive, they do what they are told, so it is really "basic " managed
    from definiition of limestone, I think LS is more like fully managed?
    LSTN/LSN to me is more of a semi-managed company, they guide you in the right way but don't do it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter-SexyWing View Post
    bust.net's support is reactive, they do what they are told, so it is really "basic " managed
    from definiition of limestone, I think LS is more like fully managed?
    No suprise, most managed company works like this...


    As far as I know limestone is far away from managed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudWay View Post
    No suprise, most managed company works like this...


    As far as I know limestone is far away from managed.
    LSTN/LSN isn't managed, but they point you in the right direction. for the price, you can't get any better of a deal. They do offer managed services for a cheap price if you actually need them to do everything for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Wall View Post
    LSTN/LSN isn't managed, but they point you in the right direction. for the price, you can't get any better of a deal. They do offer managed services for a cheap price if you actually need them to do everything for you.
    Well for cheaper you can get burst and they will apply grsecurity security on your kernel.

    (As pointed out)

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