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    Good Price For This Server Spec

    Xeon 3360
    4GB RAM
    CentOS 5x 64bit
    cPanel
    1x146GB 10k SAS HDD
    10TB BW
    100Mbps uplink
    5IPs

    I want this server set-up and have been offered it with ThePlanet, but they won't budge on their $254/month price I don't think... don't really want to go over $190/month if I can help it.

    Any recommendations on good server providers that would be able to provided this within budget? Would prefer somewhere that offers managed solutions with a good reputation, but un-managed would be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmishPatel View Post
    Xeon 3360
    4GB RAM
    CentOS 5x 64bit
    cPanel
    1x146GB 10k SAS HDD
    10TB BW
    100Mbps uplink
    5IPs

    I want this server set-up and have been offered it with ThePlanet, but they won't budge on their $254/month price I don't think... don't really want to go over $190/month if I can help it.

    Any recommendations on good server providers that would be able to provided this within budget? Would prefer somewhere that offers managed solutions with a good reputation, but un-managed would be considered.
    Thats what? a Dual core chip??

    Definatly NOT worth it, you can find other deals on these forums from other providers. Look at limestone, they offer alot of bandwidth alot cheaper then that.

    Edit, sorry it is a quad core chip.. but again, Limestone will fit within your budget without a problem, most likely be alot lower then your budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    Thats what? a Dual core chip??

    Definatly NOT worth it, you can find other deals on these forums from other providers. Look at limestone, they offer alot of bandwidth alot cheaper then that.
    Intel Xeon X3360.. not sure about the chip.. i just know it's four times as powerful as the xeon i have now! They have dropped to $229/month. GigeNet have matched the same solution at $211/month

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmishPatel View Post
    Intel Xeon X3360.. not sure about the chip.. i just know it's four times as powerful as the xeon i have now! They have dropped to $229/month. GigeNet have matched the same solution at $211/month
    May i ask what you need the SAS drive for?

    What are you doing with this machine? Web hosting? E-Mail? Database server?
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    I'm not sure, it's just what they offered?

    It is for web hosting my website. Website uses WordPress and utilises Apache/MySQL quite heavily. Traffic is around 12,000 daily uniques and 70-80,000 impressions - not sure whether to go for the 9550 chip now either.. it's essentially the same but cheaper. Also, I'm guessing a normal SATA drive would be fine, rather than SAS? I don't even really know what it is, just thought it was newer/quicker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmishPatel View Post
    I'm not sure, it's just what they offered?

    It is for web hosting my website. Website uses WordPress and utilises Apache/MySQL quite heavily. Traffic is around 12,000 daily uniques and 70-80,000 impressions - not sure whether to go for the 9550 chip now either.. it's essentially the same but cheaper. Also, I'm guessing a normal SATA drive would be fine, rather than SAS? I don't even really know what it is, just thought it was newer/quicker?
    I think SATA should be fine, SAS isn't really newer it's just a little faster. Not very noticable though, i have a couple 146GB SAS drives at home and im about ready to replace them with SATA's.

    The 9550 should be more then enough.
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    SAS drives generally have a much lower random access time which helps a lot with intensive DB hosting.

    Are you using WP Super Cache? Whats the CPU load like of your current Dual Xeon?

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    The Xeon 3360 is a quadcore CPU (same as Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550)

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    Quote Originally Posted by psmith98752 View Post
    SAS drives generally have a much lower random access time which helps a lot with intensive DB hosting.

    Are you using WP Super Cache? Whats the CPU load like of your current Dual Xeon?
    Hey,

    So SAS would be good for something like a WordPress created Website? Make much difference in comparison to SAS?

    Yep, using WP Super Cache.

    Generally the load with my current server is tolerable - right now it's:

    16:23:00 up 17:57, 1 user, load average: 1.84, 1.86, 2.04

    However, the main problem, and reason why I'm looking to upgrade is that once a month there are events which cause traffic spikes to my site and I get at least 300-500 simultaneous users trying to access the Website at this time, and it cannot handle it.. loads creep up to around 30-40 and then eventually everything crashes and grinds to a halt.

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    On a separate note, I have spoke to people from a lot of the top dedicated server providers and I think I'm swaying to moving from ThePlanet to GigeNet

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    Well with a dual CPU, your pretty much at the limit there.

    For databases, it's I/O thats important. SAS drives which spin at a higher RPM have higher IO generally than SATA drives, the exception being the WD VelociRaptor.

    SSDs are leagues ahead...

    But anyway, SAS drives are designed for a server environment where they are constantly accessed. As your site is busy, I would suggest a high performance SATA eg VelociRaptor, or a SAS drive and if you can afford it, an SSD.

    Check out Softlayer too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psmith98752 View Post
    Well with a dual CPU, your pretty much at the limit there.

    For databases, it's I/O thats important. SAS drives which spin at a higher RPM have higher IO generally than SATA drives, the exception being the WD VelociRaptor.

    SSDs are leagues ahead...

    But anyway, SAS drives are designed for a server environment where they are constantly accessed. As your site is busy, I would suggest a high performance SATA eg VelociRaptor, or a SAS drive and if you can afford it, an SSD.

    Check out Softlayer too.
    Hi,

    Thanks for the advise. I never realised how old my server CPU has become before checking the CPU Benchmark Website today. It's now at the top of low-end CPU's.

    Would the 1x146GB 10k SAS HDD be sufficient in my case? I will also ask for a quote with a high performance SATA.

    In terms of the CPU, the Xeon 3360 or Q9550? There isn't *much* difference between them here: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_look...9550+@+2.83GHz - also I've read some things here suggesting the 9550 even performs better, even though it is not a specialised desktop chip - oh, also a bit cheaper it seems

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    I'd just go for the cheaper Q9550. Any CPU in that range is going to be far more powerful.

    Do you really need the 10TB of bandwidth? You can get servers a lot cheaper from other companies but they only offer about 3TB bandwidth.

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    I would check out the Special at Liquidweb:
    https://www.liquidweb.com/cart/conte...instownSpecial

    Its fully managed, 30 minute hardware replacement, etc.

    Dual Xeon E5504 Quad Core - 8 cores - 6418 on the Passmark Score
    4GB RAM
    etc
    $219 a month

    Depends if you want RAID1, if not, you could try speaking to them and asking for a better Hard drive instead of 2 hard drives

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    Quote Originally Posted by psmith98752 View Post
    I'd just go for the cheaper Q9550. Any CPU in that range is going to be far more powerful.

    Do you really need the 10TB of bandwidth? You can get servers a lot cheaper from other companies but they only offer about 3TB bandwidth.
    Thanks.

    Don't really need 10tb.. again just something they offered... I am going to go back to GigeNet and see what they can offer.

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    Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 processor, 4GB Ram, CentOS 5x 64 Bit/cPanel, 1000GB/month bandwidth, 70-150GB Hard drive (SATA VelociRaptor or SAS) with a managed solution if possible.

    Decided on something close to this spec for what I need. Price I should be willing to pay in the current climate for something like this?

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    I would suggest you get a Q9300/9550 from Limestone Networks. Should be well within your budget since they're running a promotion.

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    I'll have a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by psmith98752 View Post
    Well with a dual CPU, your pretty much at the limit there.

    For databases, it's I/O thats important. SAS drives which spin at a higher RPM have higher IO generally than SATA drives, the exception being the WD VelociRaptor.

    SSDs are leagues ahead...

    But anyway, SAS drives are designed for a server environment where they are constantly accessed. As your site is busy, I would suggest a high performance SATA eg VelociRaptor, or a SAS drive and if you can afford it, an SSD.

    Check out Softlayer too.
    Quick question... In terms of SATA drives, the only ones GigeNet do are barracuda 10k... would this be sufficient? The SAS drive is quite a bit extra and would really be stretching my limit..

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    Have a look here for some benchmarks: http://techreport.com/articles.x/14583/11

    I'm sure it would be fine really. Many people just have normal SATA drives. Certain providers eg the UK based Rapidswitch allow you to buy a VelociRaptor for a one off cost of 60 ~ $100.

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