Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : SEO / SEM Discussions : Reverse IP Lookup, SEO Weight, VPS and redbull

[Celebrex]

Firstly,
never have 3 redbulls one after the other... I've warned you.

Secondly, (and the reason for this thread)
I have VPS hosting with about 10 websites. At the moment, one could do a Reverse IP lookup on one of my domains and discover all my other sites.

This is a huge security / SEO problem for me for the following reasons:

1. Competitors will see all my websites. The nature of my business is paramount of keeping sites away from competition.

2. Website that are all on the one VPS that have outbound links to one another is (so I've heard) no good for search engine weight. Or in other words, search engines take into account the hosting IP address for links.

So what to do in this situation?

- Do you buy more IP addresses, and have each website on a different IP?

- Get rid of the VPS and use shared hosting for each site?

...What do those Internet Marketers do when they have 50+ sites that they need to keep private from the competition?

Cheers

[squirrelhost]

don't think it matters that much, lots of sites share IP addresses
and I doubt it affects anything. Amyone could check an IP at:

http://datakitteh.org/

and see which hosts are behind it (if they have the data)

[Celebrex]

It matters a lot.

There is a tool on the yougetsignal website, under reverse IP lookup that allows you to check other websites on a particular server.

So, by entering one of my sites, I'm able to see all my other sites on that server.

Anyone with this type of experience out there?

[squirrelhost]

google doesn't care about it at all, so why bother?
fairly normal for a shared hosting setup

[Celebrex]

you're not understanding the question. please re-read before trying to help out.

[squirrelhost]

It has no effect om SEO if that is one of you questions.
Some of the biggest internet hosting companies around
have all sorts of domains hosted on the same IP as
their main website. e.g. leaseweb.com (have a look
and see). Try to understand this part at least.

[Celebrex]

That's right. It has no effect on SEO if the sites are simply located on the same IP. BUT, if those two websites were to link to each other, THEN the weight of that link in not counted towards SEO as I mentioned in the opening post.

We're moving away from the main question though.

now, anyone with experience in ... "do a Reverse IP lookup on one of my domains and discover all my other sites." and what is the best solution for this situation?

[lostmind]

Originally Posted by Celebrex

That's right. It has no effect on SEO if the sites are simply located on the same IP. BUT, if those two websites were to link to each other, THEN the weight of that link in not counted towards SEO as I mentioned in the opening post.

My understanding is that you are correct, the link juice isn't passed along, at least not at full strength. I personally think Google must rely on other indicators as well, because there has to be some unconnected websites sharing IP's in some situations.

However, the "SEO" people I know swear up and down that you are correct. Thus, they ask for multiple IP's from multiple Class C's and setup multiple nameservers and typically have hosting spread across several providers. Typically these guys play with 100's of sites at once though.

Originally Posted by Celebrex

We're moving away from the main question though.

now, anyone with experience in ... "do a Reverse IP lookup on one of my domains and discover all my other sites." and what is the best solution for this situation?

Best solution? Get a couple extra IP's and put a couple of sites on each?

Go to a few different providers if it's a big concern?

Good luck!

[Celebrex]

Originally Posted by lostmind

...ask for multiple IP's from multiple Class C's and setup multiple nameservers and typically have hosting spread across several providers.

Thanks lostmind, that's what I had in mind. So far that sounds like the best way to handle this.

Cheers,