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    hostpolice is down

    Hello.
    I am not hosted on hostpolice at all but however they are down from a very long time and now it looks like their domain is expired..
    Visit www.hostpolice.com to see..
    Do anyone have any news about them
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    their domains now with sedo parking. that means, they've gone out of business.
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    with a name like that, Im not surprised they're out of business
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    ya they made BID for 60$ for that domain
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    I can't say that I'm surprised - I do believe I predicted such an outcome not too long ago in a thread that was discussing them and their services.
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    Hello,
    It was a matter of time with HostPolice. They had a flawed business plan from the start. They sold $45.00 per year Alpha Reseller Packages, enough said. They have had a long-standing history of being Spammer Friendly, Poor Customer Service, and Downtime.

    The domain is now parked via Sedo and is listed for $60.00. The problem is that domain is so tarnished that it is not even worth getting the domain for free. It is like passing around a rotten apple, it cannot be restored.

    It is clear that they are no longer in business, so I would cut your losses and move onto an Adult Host.

    On the same note, wasn't there some sort of running bet on this forum on how long they would last for? I Think bear may have won? (Just Kidding Of Course)
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    I'm glad it's done for. I've only just joined recently and have seen a couple of threads noting the poor level of support.

    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    It is clear that they are no longer in business, so I would cut your losses and move onto an Adult Host.
    The OP wasn't using HostPolice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyup View Post



    The OP wasn't using HostPolice.
    Hello,
    I saw that, however that was ment for those who were still using them
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    My friend use their service and lose the data 2 time already..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dear View Post
    My friend use their service and lose the data 2 time already..
    I would think you would learn after the first time to keep your own backups of your data... The first time shame on the host the second time shame on the person who didn't keep a backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dear View Post
    My friend use their service and lose the data 2 time already..
    Why would your friend give them a second chance? If it was me, I would have been mad of course but I wouldn't give them the chance to lose my data again. Such errors are unacceptable in my book.
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    I remember atleast 2-3 threads were here regarding them with in a month or two. Any way feel sorry for those customers who were trapped in such a situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHubNet-Matt View Post
    I remember atleast 2-3 threads were here regarding them with in a month or two. Any way feel sorry for those customers who were trapped in such a situation.
    Agreed. I hope they learned to keep a backup of all their data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Pixel View Post
    Agreed. I hope they learned to keep a backup of all their data.
    They should be. But you can see this also.
    My friend use their service and lose the data 2 time already..
    A bit of a surprise though I am not sure whether he had a back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodBanners View Post
    with a name like that, Im not surprised they're out of business

    I don't think it's a bad name at all. Unless of course you have a problem with the police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    I don't think it's a bad name at all. Unless of course you have a problem with the police.
    That is nice Tony .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    I don't think it's a bad name at all. Unless of course you have a problem with the police.
    Many people dislike the police until they need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    I don't think it's a bad name at all. Unless of course you have a problem with the police.
    Haha.. nice point. I agree with that since I don't really find a host's name to be weird with a police in it. Though its still sounds scary, don't know why..

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    Quote Originally Posted by akirah View Post
    I agree with that since I don't really find a host's name to be weird with a police in it.
    On the other hand as it is a different name it is a catchy one IMO.

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    My only advice is to research the company, Even small companies have been running for 10+ years without major events. It's all down to poor management and school boy bedroom hosts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    I don't think it's a bad name at all. Unless of course you have a problem with the police.
    I think that this type name is not suitable for hosting company, because it look childish for first time, secondly it looks like this is some type of agency which taking care of hosts

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    I took down HostPolice? *loled*

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    Quote Originally Posted by webilly View Post
    I think that this type name is not suitable for hosting company, because it look childish for first time, secondly it looks like this is some type of agency which taking care of hosts
    Is Hawk Host childish or Host Gator or any other host with some sort of animal associated with it? If you have a common word and host in it you can pull it off. I question people though with names like abcdef.com or something that is made up and has nothing about host in it.
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    What about providers that don't say host such as Softlayer, Steadfast, etc...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iHubNet-Matt View Post
    A bit of a surprise though I am not sure whether he had a back up.
    My friend did have a backup before the first lost.. He read it here about the arguement of hostpolice and the dedicated server provider.. forgot then name..

    He beleive that hostpolice should be given the 2nd chance since that is not their fault.. So he continue using their service and restore the backup data he have.. Day after that he's pc BSOD and need to re-format.. So he lost all he's file.. He want to backup file from cpanel but the server is down already..

    Wait and wait still no news.. Now the domain is on sell already.. =.=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dear View Post
    My friend did have a backup before the first lost.. He read it here about the arguement of hostpolice and the dedicated server provider.. forgot then name..

    He beleive that hostpolice should be given the 2nd chance since that is not their fault.. So he continue using their service and restore the backup data he have.. Day after that he's pc BSOD and need to re-format.. So he lost all he's file.. He want to backup file from cpanel but the server is down already..

    Wait and wait still no news.. Now the domain is on sell already.. =.=
    Feel bad for your friend, HostPolice yeah ? a name that will be remember here in WHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Pixel View Post
    Why would your friend give them a second chance? If it was me, I would have been mad of course but I wouldn't give them the chance to lose my data again. Such errors are unacceptable in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    Hard drive failures can not be prevented
    Not prevented but the damage as a result of a hard drive failure can often be prevented by running a raid array using disks from different lots/batches and keeping off-server backups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    Not prevented but the damage as a result of a hard drive failure can often be prevented by running a raid array using disks from different lots/batches and keeping off-server backups.
    Still you can not be 100% certain data will not be lost. Both RAID and off-site server can fail.

    Keeping regular backups in blu-ray drives would be a good option but I fear no shared host will do on shared hosting servers it as it will be expensive.

    I remember even here at WHT several posts were lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    Still you can not be 100% certain data will not be lost. Both RAID and off-site server can fail.
    Nothing is 100% - the world could end tomorrow which would be 100% data loss for every provider but it's unlikely to happen.

    If you lose enough drives on a server to lose all of the data on the server as well as all of the data on your backup server (which will likely also be running raid) then I would say that you are tremendously unlucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    Keeping regular backups in blu-ray drives would be a good option but I fear no shared host will do on shared hosting servers it as it will be expensive.
    Heh, I don't see how that would be any more reliable than a backup server running raid10 with 10~16 drives that is only used for backing up/restoring data (i.e. not used 24/7 in most cases). blu-ray disks can be scratched, broken, dropped, misplaced, mis-written, etc... Not to mention that the data density per disc still is not high enough to make it a reasonable backup medium for a provider that offers hosting. It is a nice tape replacement for companies that only handle a few servers that do in-house things I would think but beyond that I don't see it being very effective (both data density or cost) in a shared environment for a provider.

    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    I remember even here at WHT several posts were lost.
    That's a different story/topic entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    Nothing is 100% - the world could end tomorrow which would be 100% data loss for every provider but it's unlikely to happen.

    If you lose enough drives on a server to lose all of the data on the server as well as all of the data on your backup server (which will likely also be running raid) then I would say that you are tremendously unlucky.

    Heh, I don't see how that would be any more reliable than a backup server running raid10 with 10~16 drives that is only used for backing up/restoring data (i.e. not used 24/7 in most cases). blu-ray disks can be scratched, broken, dropped, misplaced, mis-written, etc... Not to mention that the data density per disc still is not high enough to make it a reasonable backup medium for a provider that offers hosting. It is a nice tape replacement for companies that only handle a few servers that do in-house things I would think but beyond that I don't see it being very effective (both data density or cost) in a shared environment for a provider.

    That's a different story/topic entirely.
    I have experience of losing data even after using RAID10 drives and taking off-server backups.

    If a blu-ray drive is scratched or broken the same probability is there with SATA/SAS drives. When you store data on a blu-ray drive you will keep it in a safe place but on backup servers the HDs will have constant reading/writing. More reading/writing = more prone to failure, so that is where I mentioned blu-ray drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    I have experience of losing data even after using RAID10 drives and taking off-server backups.
    It sounds like you didn't properly plan. I'm not saying it can't happen but with proper planning and implementation this type of instance can be extraordinarily rare.

    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    If a blu-ray drive is scratched or broken the same probability is there with SATA/SAS drives. When you store data on a blu-ray drive you will keep it in a safe place but on backup servers the HDs will have constant reading/writing. More reading/writing = more prone to failure, so that is where I mentioned blu-ray drives.
    You are making a generalization - just because your backup server was doing constant reading/writing does not mean that it is how it should be done or how it is done at other providers.

    As an example our backup servers only do 4 restoration points per day which take around 15 to 20 minutes at most and then all the rest of the time in the day they aren't reading or writing unless a user needs to restore some files which happens occasionally but I would say the drives are *far* from 25% daily usage.

    Not to mention it's running Raid10 with 8 drives - even if one or two fail we're going to have time to replace them. Now like I said - this is only our specific backup server configuration - your mileage may vary and it's not going to be the same from provider to provider.
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    Still it will do some more reading/writing as compared to the blu-ray disk.

    Coming back to the Hostpolice topic, what can you expect paying something $40 per "year" for alpha reseller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    Still it will do some more reading/writing as compared to the blu-ray disk.
    The downsides to providing backups stored via blu-ray for a provider far outweigh the benefits but you're welcome to do it - maybe you can get some customers by targeting the niche that wants their backups stored on discs instead of hard drives.

    Quote Originally Posted by bentink View Post
    Coming back to the Hostpolice topic, what can you expect paying something $40 per "year" for alpha reseller?
    Agreed.
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    And last of all no provider will take the responsibility of your data. You agreed to the terms when signing up

    If it was me I would have blamed myself if I did not keep my own backups on local devices for important data. Most of the time only the database is important (which isnt too large). The other files can be re-made even if lost under any circumstances.

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    Curious, since HostPolice was offering "Alpha Reseller" packages, its fair to say other hosts where using their services (probably nothing reputable, but still).

    My question is: has anyone seen any outage notices from resellers several tiers away from this collapse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregVernon View Post
    Curious, since HostPolice was offering "Alpha Reseller" packages, its fair to say other hosts where using their services (probably nothing reputable, but still).

    My question is: has anyone seen any outage notices from resellers several tiers away from this collapse?
    I think it would be hard to determine that - I think that most that buy into the alpha reseller plans (and those that buy into plans offered by them) aren't likely looking too deep to see who the root provider is and are just looking for the biggest bang for the smallest buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    I think it would be hard to determine that - I think that most that buy into the alpha reseller plans (and those that buy into plans offered by them) aren't likely looking too deep to see who the root provider is and are just looking for the biggest bang for the smallest buck.
    At $40/year? Definitely. But I'm curious if a shared host 3 tiers down the road - who may have even offered decent support, if not uptime - is running into any issues and having customers wonder whats going on.

    I suppose with how many hosting companies go out of business that would be pretty much impossible, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    I think it would be hard to determine that - I think that most that buy into the alpha reseller plans (and those that buy into plans offered by them) aren't likely looking too deep to see who the root provider is and are just looking for the biggest bang for the smallest buck.
    True, and the same goes with master resellers. Obviously someone looking at such plans does not want to spend much (especially considering how much VPS plans go for now) but still wants the capability. And if it's not "unlimited", 99% of them just leave.

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