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    any desktop support 8g ram ?

    Hi,

    do you buy any desktop support 8g ram for producing server recently ?

    because i find many deskyp talked before are eol.


    thanx

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    I believe all computers based on 64bit technology do support 8 GB of RAM, don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosting24 View Post
    I believe all computers based on 64bit technology do support 8 GB of RAM, don't they?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by gilbert View Post
    Sweet! Thanks God!
    not so fast! RAM support is wholly depending on memory controller, either a standalone northbridge or integrated on CPU die such as all AMD CPUs or the new Nehalem/Lynnfield based Intel chips.

    Atom is a 64-bit EMT64 CPU, but it's embedded on motherboard using 945GC/945GSE northbridge. thus, 2G RAM is the max it will support.

    for socket 775 CPU, you will need motherboard with Intel G35 northbridge or higher in order to get 8G RAM support. Intel DG35EC board is very popular for budget server builds, and it does support 4x 2G DDR2 RAM modules.

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    The OS limitation for usable RAM was mainly due to the limits of 32 bit. 64 bit systems can theoretically use 16 ******** of RAM, but obviously that's a ways off still.

    CENTos, Debian, Ubuntu, Windows, etc. all have 64 bit versions that will access well over 8 gigs of ram.
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    DG35EC is discontinued... you must look at G45 chipset (and higher price) from what I am hearing.
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    Asus has some nice entry level server boards supporting 8GB of memory with socket 775.
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    Pretty much every socket 775 or newer board is going to be able to support 8gigs of ram.

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    Hi,

    i want to install q9550 on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by FastServ View Post
    DG35EC is discontinued... you must look at G45 chipset (and higher price) from what I am hearing.
    yes,i check DG35EC,but it seems eol.

    Quote Originally Posted by FeliXdk View Post
    Asus has some nice entry level server boards supporting 8GB of memory with socket 775.
    can i ask which boards you used ?


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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816110027

    May be eol but has a great price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    can i ask which boards you used ?
    Sure, currently we are using the P5BV-series, in the past we used P5M2 but I believe they reached end of life and were replaced by P5BV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliXdk View Post
    Sure, currently we are using the P5BV-series, in the past we used P5M2 but I believe they reached end of life and were replaced by P5BV.
    Hi,

    as ausu desktop bpard,

    how many year they work woitout issue?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    how many year they work woitout issue?
    There isn't really any way to say that, in my experience Asus isn't less reliable than other vendors. As far as I know the only issue we have experienced with their server boards was a malfunctioning NIC on one board after a few months, while others have been running nonstop for several years without any trouble.
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    Why is this in the colo sections topics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliXdk View Post
    There isn't really any way to say that, in my experience Asus isn't less reliable than other vendors. As far as I know the only issue we have experienced with their server boards was a malfunctioning NIC on one board after a few months, while others have been running nonstop for several years without any trouble.
    does it Marvell NIC ?

    becuase i ever use one pc server T100 with Marvell NIC,

    and feel the NIC is not very stable,

    im not sure if it's only the one server's issue,all will Marvell's.

    it is user centos.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    Why is this in the colo sections topics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    does it Marvell NIC ?
    Don't remember which model it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    Why is this in the colo sections topics?
    i think the OP wanted to buy desktop computer and host it on colocation hosting
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    Most dekstops that support 64bit operations/processor using latest motherboards should support 8gb ram. do a search . I remember alot of threads that mentioned computer specs and i remember a lot of people using much more ram!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDOSTI View Post
    Most dekstops that support 64bit operations/processor using latest motherboards should support 8gb ram. do a search . I remember alot of threads that mentioned computer specs and i remember a lot of people using much more ram!
    i know there are some threads about the boards and i already read,

    but some are eol or my local do not offer these.


    thanx

  21. with the supermicro X8SIL socket 1156 true server board this cheap (~$150; dual Intel GB NICs; 4x DDR3; 32G RAM max), anyone considering core2 quad server, should really look into core i5/i7 lynnfield platform, especially the DDR2 RAM modules (for socket 775 board) are shooting up like crazy lately! in fact, DDR2-800 non-ECC modules are now more expensive than DDR3-1333 at equal size.

    for example, C2Q Q9550 on Intel DG35EC desktop board (if you can find it!) with 4x 2G DDR2-800 is basically the same price with core i5 750, featuring qaud 2.66G cores, DDR3-1333 IMC and 8M L3, on supermicro X8SIL true server board, 4x 2G DDR3-1333 and dual Intel Gb NICs. it's a no brainer that you must go with lynnfield server. if you can spend a bit more you can even get Xeon X3440 socket 1156 which is 8 hyperthreads capable!

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    ddr2's price increase...

    does it mean ddr3 will replace ddr2 in the market within one or two month ?


    i check the desktop for 1156,

    it is hard to find,

    hope it can release more board quickly.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    ddr2's price increase...

    does it mean ddr3 will replace ddr2 in the market within one or two month ?


    i check the desktop for 1156,

    it is hard to find,

    hope it can release more board quickly.
    most socket 1156 "desktop" boards on the market are based on Intel P55 chipset which doesn't support on-board video at all, and they are even more expensive than than X8SIL server board (Intel 3400 chipset + Matrox video) after you add standalone video card. thus, why not just use X8SIL board which is optimized for 1U chassis, and of course it can be installed in tower chassis?

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    the reason i look for desktop board is because my local could not find the board X8SIL.

    thanx


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    anyone have experience with GA-EG41MF-S2H or GA-EG45M-UD2H ?

    thanx

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    LEE,can i ask you some question?

    X7SBL-LN2 is a famous board for 775,
    im not sure how long it release from initial to now,
    but i think it is almost main product of supermicro for 775,
    is it correct?

    i just wonder if X8SIL will like X7SBL-LN2 does become the main board of supermicro for 1156?
    or it is just a transitional product?

    another question,do you have server with X8SIL for production?
    do you install it within SC813MT-300CB for four hd?
    or you use which chassis ?
    because i check http://www.supermicro.com/xeon_3400/...SIL.cfm?IPMI=N
    the Chassis ( Optimized for X8SIL ) does not include SC813MT-300CB.



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    it seems the Heatsink for 1156 socket for 1u is hard to find...

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    LEE,can i ask you some question?

    X7SBL-LN2 is a famous board for 775,
    im not sure how long it release from initial to now,
    but i think it is almost main product of supermicro for 775,
    is it correct?

    i just wonder if X8SIL will like X7SBL-LN2 does become the main board of supermicro for 1156?
    or it is just a transitional product?

    another question,do you have server with X8SIL for production?
    do you install it within SC813MT-300CB for four hd?
    or you use which chassis ? the Chassis ( Optimized for X8SIL ) does not include SC813MT-300CB.
    because i check http://www.supermicro.com/xeon_3400/...SIL.cfm?IPMI=N
    thanx
    considering that Xeon lynnfield X3440 (8x hypertreads, 1333mhz IMC)+ X8SIL-F (w/IPMI+iKVM)+ 8GB DDR3-1333 is cheaper than Q9550 (=Xeon X3330) + X7SBL-LN2 (no IPMI) + 8GB DDR2-800, I would call it crazy not to go with lynnfield server! so, the answer is yes, X8SIL series is to replace X7SBL series.

    we've installed plenty of X8SIL onto SC813MT-300CB chassis with no issue whatsoever.


    Quote Originally Posted by ttgt
    it seems the Heatsink for 1156 socket for 1u is hard to find...
    you can just use supermicro's own SNK-P0046P passive 1U heatsink for socket 1156

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    Hi,LEE,

    about X8SIL or X8SIL-F install in SC813MT-300CB,

    did you use any raid card?

    i may use 2405SAS or 9650SE-4LPML or dell perc 5i or dell perc 6i to do raid 10 for it,

    would they use the same riser card?


    thanx
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    Hi,LEE,

    do you use both X8SIL and X8SIL-F ?

    becuase i check the OS Compatibility Chart,
    http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/X8S.cfm

    it seems the X8SIL not support less os ?

    i worry if it can work for centos well.


    thanx


  31. Quote Originally Posted by ttgt View Post
    Hi,LEE,

    about X8SIL or X8SIL-F install in SC813MT-300CB,

    did you use any raid card?

    i may use 2405SAS or 9650SE-4LPML or dell perc 5i or dell perc 6i to do raid 10 for it,

    would they use the same riser card?


    thanx
    we did try 2405/9650SE with no issues with CSE-RR1U-E8 1U PCI-E 8-lane riser card. no experience with Dell RAID cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    we did try 2405/9650SE with no issues with CSE-RR1U-E8 1U PCI-E 8-lane riser card. no experience with Dell RAID cards.
    Hi,LEE,

    thanks to all.

    can i ask a common commonsense ?

    as usual,famous Expansion Slots will put on the same place of a board,

    and i only need check if the riser card suit for the chassis directly ?


    thanx

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    anyone use any desktop board to install i5 750 with centos well?
    sadly,my country is out stack of x8sil,the seller say need to wait about one month later,
    i originally think i can use Intel DP55WB desktop board,
    but it seems it's intel NIC is not support with centos now.

    thanx

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