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    Help, Need To Buy

    I"m new to having a dedi server but have made more than my share of mistakes and I'm here now to get some help. I have a adult streaming video site that is maxing out the 10Mbps dedicated pipe I was assured was more than I needed. I need a faster processor, more ram, and alot more bandwidth. On a 10Mbps pipe I am maxed out 24/7 and getting complaints about the lousy streaming and not being able to connect. I have used 1.3TB of bandwidth in 10 days on the 10Mbps pipe. So here is where I need your help. I have received 3 offers within my budget of $200.00

    Offer #1
    SINGLE CPU QUAD CORE 2.5GHZ 1333FSB (6MB CACHE)
    1TB HD
    8GB DDR2
    Cpanel
    100Mbps Unmetered Shared
    Free Install
    $169.00

    Offer #2
    Dual Processor Intel Xeon 3Ghz
    500GB HD
    4GB Ram
    Cpanel
    50Mbps dedicated Unmetered
    $200.00

    Offer #3
    Intel Core2Quad Q9650
    1TB HD
    8GB DDR2 Ram
    Cpanel
    100Mbps Dedicated 10TB Limit
    $179.00

    All Great, but which is best for my needs! Help Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsh View Post
    Are you still with a hosting provider, and if so, have you tried upgrading from within rather than canceling and migrating to a new provider? You may save yourself a lot of time by doing going that route.

    bsh
    Yes I have and they are not big enough to compete with these prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    Yes I have and they are not big enough to compete with these prices.
    Have you done your research on the providers you're considering switching to? While it's never bad to cut costs when you can, you need to make sure you're not sacrificing support and/or services. Who are you with currently and who are you considering switching to?

    bsh

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    I would go for Offer #3 great server spec and 8gb ram.

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    Offer #1 burst
    Offer #2 choopa
    Offer #3 limestonenetworks

    But what I need to know is which server setuup is best for me????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheServerExperts View Post
    I would go for Offer #3 great server spec and 8gb ram.
    I agree, but I'm worried about the bandwidth cap. Streaming video eats bw. New server will have to handle 150 to 250 connections streaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    I agree, but I'm worried about the bandwidth cap. Streaming video eats bw. New server will have to handle 150 to 250 connections streaming.
    have you looked at gigabit unmetered servers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    have you looked at gigabit unmetered servers?
    Are you refering to the port speed? If so, that is going to cost a lot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathewanson View Post
    Are you refering to the port speed? If so, that is going to cost a lot!!
    not always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    not always.
    Even if you could get it at a magical unicorn $1 per Mbit for a 1Gbps line, That's $1,000 bucks. But I've never seen a real unicorn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTrike View Post
    Even if you could get it at a magical unicorn $1 per mbit that's $1,000 bucks. But I've never seen a unicorn...
    where in my post did i say dedicated gigabit? he can get a shared gigabit line where he can push alot of bandwidth, alot more then 10TB.
    "Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    where in my post did i say dedicated gigabit? he can get a shared gigabit line where he can push alot of bandwidth, alot more then 10TB.
    That's part of my point, all you said was 'not always.' which really helps nobody. Perhaps shedding a little more light and detail on the subject would prove more useful to the OP. Heck maybe even others could find it useful, being a public forum and all.

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    If you ask me offer 1 and 2 are just magical unicorns as well.

    A 100 Mbit line for under 200$?

    I wonder if they are willing to put that signed on contract agreement. (of course not!!!)

    Those kind of offers never get you over 20 Mbits since you are fighting for the rest with dozens or more of others customers servers. (shared, but really, really shared ports)

    Hope to see you back in some months and you can tell us one of this:
    a) How much you are pushing each month at max speeds (they are going to cap your port)
    b) The date they suspended your server for any excuses what so ever.
    Last edited by PYDOT; 10-13-2009 at 12:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    If you ask me offer 1 and 2 are just magical unicorn as well.

    A 100 Mbit line for under 200$

    I wonder if they are willing to put signed on contract that.

    Those kind of offers never get you over 20 Mbits since you are fighting for the rest with a dozen servers.
    choppa has quite a large network and most likely gets the bandwidth very cheap, therefore can offer it at that pricing.

    $4 a mbit is not unheard of, look at uberbandwidth...
    "Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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    You may want to check with your current provider for capacity options. If they have the proper network gear they could possibly set a port rate-limit to give you more throughput without giving you a full 100Mbps. Never hurts to ask anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    choppa has quite a large network and most likely gets the bandwidth very cheap, therefore can offer it at that pricing.

    $4 a mbit is not unheard of, look at uberbandwidth...
    Please

    169$ a month is = 1.69$ per megabit and that is assuming:

    1) Their bandwidth costs 1.6$ per meg, from multiple carriers, assuming they have some redundancy (wonder which ones)
    2) They dont pay at all for their harware, its a gift
    3) They dont even pay for the power it eats (it must be solar)
    4) Include here their profit(they must be a non profit organization, since in mot sure how much profit is -0$)

    Or

    5) They put 30 servers sharing the same 100 port.
    6) They just cap it to a fixed speed and don't tell the customer. Let him find out for himself, some never do as they never need more.

    So which one is it? You don't actually believe the first option....

    The real question, is how many of them are willing to put that signed on a agreement. Bursting at 99 Mbits per second, 365 days a year for that price. None.
    Last edited by PYDOT; 10-13-2009 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    Please

    169$ a month is = 1.69$ per megabit and that is assuming:

    1) Their bandwidth costs 1.6$ per meg, from multiple carriers (wonder which ones)
    2) They dont pay at all for their harware, its a gift
    3) They dont even pay for the power it consumes (it must be solar)
    4) Include here their profit(they must be a non profit organization, since in mot sure how much profit is -0$)

    Or

    5) They put 30 servers sharing the same 100 port.
    6) They just cap it to a fixed speed and don't tell the customer. Let him find out for himself, some never do as they never need more.

    So which one is it? You don't actually believe the first option....
    Maybe you should use the thing called your brain.

    the server for $169 he clearly states is from burst and b is on a SHARED line. he already specified that.


    if you read correctly
    "Offer #2
    Dual Processor Intel Xeon 3Ghz
    500GB HD
    4GB Ram
    Cpanel
    50Mbps dedicated Unmetered
    $200.00"

    is the choopa offer.

    that server hardware is A. Old B. Very very inexpensive. so he's mostly paying for bandwidth.
    "Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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    Either way you get what you pay for in the end. Just to make things clear and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMele View Post
    Maybe you should use the thing called your brain.

    the server for $169 he clearly states is from burst and b is on a SHARED line. he already specified that.


    if you read correctly
    "Offer #2
    Dual Processor Intel Xeon 3Ghz
    500GB HD
    4GB Ram
    Cpanel
    50Mbps dedicated Unmetered
    $200.00"

    is the choopa offer.

    that server hardware is A. Old B. Very very inexpensive. so he's mostly paying for bandwidth.

    That doesn't even hardly responds the points I specified, except shared and hardware.
    Making personal statements like "use your brain" doesn't make you more right or any smarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTrike View Post
    Either way you get what you pay for in the end. Just to make things clear and simple.
    Thats exactly what I wanted to point out.

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    Damn, I asked for a little help, and as far as I can see, all I'm getting is everyone
    trying to do everything to discredit each other and any and all web hosts. I agree
    with the slogan "You Get What You Pay For", but so far all I've got for help is
    a bunch of nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    Damn, I asked for a little help, and as far as I can see, all I'm getting is everyone
    trying to do everything to discredit each other and any and all web hosts. I agree
    with the slogan "You Get What You Pay For", but so far all I've got for help is
    a bunch of nothing!
    of those deals the second one is the best in my opinion.
    "Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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    In respect to bandwidth, what could the best scenario with the 50Mbps port?

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    I recommend #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    In respect to bandwidth, what could the best scenario with the 50Mbps port?
    That's roughly 16.2TB per month, if that fits your bandwidth requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTrike View Post
    That's roughly 16.2TB per month, if that fits your bandwidth requirements.
    Thank you! Thats really helpful to me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    Thank you! Thats really helpful to me!!
    lol, at least we got our heads out and provides something useful.

    Good rule of thumb, 1Mbps = roughly 324GB

    Best of luck to you in your hosting adventures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTrike View Post
    lol, at least we got our heads out and provides something useful.

    Good rule of thumb, 1Mbps = roughly 324GB

    Best of luck to you in your hosting adventures!
    Thank you!! I'm just a poor "Hillbilly" From the Mtns of West
    Virginia. Can't Sell moonshine anymore, so I thought I'd try naked bodies doing nasty things!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by egm1947 View Post
    Thank you!! I'm just a poor "Hillbilly" From the Mtns of West
    Virginia. Can't Sell moonshine anymore, so I thought I'd try naked bodies doing nasty things!!
    I'd be a liar if I said I did not fancy the female form



    And function

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    Well gentlemen, I'm back..... Went with door #3 and they were great for 3 weeks and, guess what I ran out of? Yep, you got it, that nasty stuff called bandwidth.
    Before anyone asks, they did offer a solution. Buy another server and get another 10TB of bandwidth. Damn nice solution if I needed another server, but I don't.
    So I'm back looking for a solution.

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