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    Florida servers

    Hello,

    Weve been hosting for a while with Hivelocity but it is now time to move out.
    If your wondering why we are leaving, it is because of their none stop recurring network routing issues.

    What we need:
    FLORIDA BASED SERVER
    Good support 24/7
    unamanged
    STABLE network.
    2000GB per month per machine minimum
    100mbps port or 1gb port
    single dual core
    2Gb ram
    80GB HDD is plenty.
    Budget 200 max per machine, which should be plenty for a basic machine like this one.


    I searched google and wht and came up with not a lot of satisfying results.

    What I have so far:
    Hostdime (seems a bit pricey but the offers on the web side are managed servers, not sure about their network and support?)
    Sagonet (thats where hivelocity.net colocate, I am not sure I want to risk having the same problems. )
    colo4jax.com (Good price barely any reviews)
    acceleratebiz.com (no reviews?, upgrade very very expensive)


    If you could list more providers in florida it would be greatly appreciate.

    Thank you

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    Any reason why it must be florida based?

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    Hivelocity is based in Tampa, FL.

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    I've been using Hostdime for about 5 years (reseller accounts).
    The support and network are excelent IMO. They are the real deal.
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    thanks for the trust and interest. We usually have some promos for new clients and do price match. As you mentioned our prices are higher due to the fact all our servers are managed.
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    HostDime is well established with a fast and reliable network, they also have a great support team.

    Colo4jax is another good choice, especially for cost effective bandwidth and servers. They have a new datacenter in Miami which could be of interest to you.

    You might want to try out the new provider before being fully committed. The worst is when you end up missing your old host. A company should be reliable and not leave you with a bad feeling when the bill comes.

    Is the network issue definitely coming from hivelocity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armageddon21 View Post
    Hello,

    Weve been hosting for a while with Hivelocity but it is now time to move out.
    If your wondering why we are leaving, it is because of their none stop recurring network routing issues.

    What we need:
    FLORIDA BASED SERVER
    Good support 24/7
    unamanged
    STABLE network.
    2000GB per month per machine minimum
    100mbps port or 1gb port
    single dual core
    2Gb ram
    80GB HDD is plenty.
    Budget 200 max per machine, which should be plenty for a basic machine like this one.


    I searched google and wht and came up with not a lot of satisfying results.

    What I have so far:
    Hostdime (seems a bit pricey but the offers on the web side are managed servers, not sure about their network and support?)
    Sagonet (thats where hivelocity.net colocate, I am not sure I want to risk having the same problems. )
    colo4jax.com (Good price barely any reviews)
    acceleratebiz.com (no reviews?, upgrade very very expensive)


    If you could list more providers in florida it would be greatly appreciate.

    Thank you
    Im thinking you must have had the network issue lastnight too?
    Yes were think about moving also. We do have a few servers there.

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    Yes the issues are definitely hivelocity side . Live support is clueless and its frustrating.

    "Im thinking you must have had the network issue lastnight too?" - We had an issue last night for 90minutes and 2 days before and a few days before. It often only affect one part of the network and sometimes only one of our machine then the next time its all machines. We host out of of many many datacenters and at this point this one is the worst we have. I want to move and not look back, but obviously moving is risky, we do not want to move all our clients to worst or we will end up loosing them all.

    Thank you for the review/help so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostDime View Post
    thanks for the trust and interest. We usually have some promos for new clients and do price match. As you mentioned our prices are higher due to the fact all our servers are managed.
    What kind of price match do you offer? Would you match the typical server with 10TB traffic for $99 offers that seem to be appearing everywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armageddon21 View Post
    Yes the issues are definitely hivelocity side . Live support is clueless and its frustrating.

    "Im thinking you must have had the network issue lastnight too?" - We had an issue last night for 90minutes and 2 days before and a few days before. It often only affect one part of the network and sometimes only one of our machine then the next time its all machines. We host out of of many many datacenters and at this point this one is the worst we have. I want to move and not look back, but obviously moving is risky, we do not want to move all our clients to worst or we will end up loosing them all.

    Thank you for the review/help so far.
    Good luck finding your next provider,

    Wish you all the best.

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    Their connections to the UK (e.g. Cogent) is very poor for us and we are thinking about moving as well. I just think their network is very cheap, but then again the prices reflect this.

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    HiVelocity and HostDime get my vote too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazit View Post
    Their connections to the UK (e.g. Cogent) is very poor for us and we are thinking about moving as well. I just think their network is very cheap, but then again the prices reflect this.
    Our Time Warner and Level (3) connections should be up within the next week. Also there will be no price increases.
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    I can recommend Colo4Jax. They are very well priced and have great network as well as knowldegeable staff. Support and deploys can take slightly longer than usual sometimes, but for the price, it's certainly still a good deal.
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    HiVelocity and HostDime get my vote too!
    Please do read the post mate Thats all I will say....

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    Have made a search around and found Hostdime is using their own data center. I would vote for hostdime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandrios View Post
    What kind of price match do you offer? Would you match the typical server with 10TB traffic for $99 offers that seem to be appearing everywhere?
    Price match needs to come from a reputable competitor who offers managed servers. 85% of server providers out there offer UN-managed servers.
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    Thank you all,

    I contacted Hostdime, waiting for the quote.
    I will be trying colo4jax or hostdime (or maybe both)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armageddon21 View Post
    Hello,

    Weve been hosting for a while with Hivelocity but it is now time to move out.
    If your wondering why we are leaving, it is because of their none stop recurring network routing issues.

    What we need:
    FLORIDA BASED SERVER
    Good support 24/7
    unamanged
    STABLE network.
    2000GB per month per machine minimum
    100mbps port or 1gb port
    single dual core
    2Gb ram
    80GB HDD is plenty.
    Budget 200 max per machine, which should be plenty for a basic machine like this one.


    I searched google and wht and came up with not a lot of satisfying results.

    What I have so far:
    Hostdime (seems a bit pricey but the offers on the web side are managed servers, not sure about their network and support?)
    Sagonet (thats where hivelocity.net colocate, I am not sure I want to risk having the same problems. )
    colo4jax.com (Good price barely any reviews)
    acceleratebiz.com (no reviews?, upgrade very very expensive)


    If you could list more providers in florida it would be greatly appreciate.

    Thank you
    OK, you say in same post
    "STABLE network" &
    "FLORIDA BASED"
    call me naive but are you joking? why not also include New Orleans and Cuba in your search?
    Why
    A) Would anybody who wants to sleep at night want to host in Florida
    B) More importantly why would a datacenter even setup business in Florida.
    I am puzzled by both items above (and in fairness having once heavily considered being a Hivelocity customer this was one issue I coudl not get past)

    Try searching on the literally endless stream of power and network outages reported by Sago and Hivelocity just in the last 12 months! I don't really think its their fault its just the nature of where they are. I spoke with a high level AT&T (when it was still Bell South) tech a long time ago (based in Atlanta) about where they have most problems in their region (South East) and they said Florida by a long shot, simply due to the weather and constant static electricity and other factors they just have endless network and power issues. This is not to even mention the potential for being washed/blown off the map every summer. I love Florida and have a father living their retired but running a mission critical data based business from there - ahh not really a wise decision.

    Just my 2 cents and no I do not work for or have any affiliation with a data center elsewhere I just possess common sense and ability to think logically. I assume you live in Florida and feel some sense of security by being able to visit the DC or something but unless you are cool with the same ongoing issues you have had with Hivelocity (who in fairness from what I've seen have more good reviews than not on here) I would check a little further north and inland.

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    That statement is simply fake. You are thinking only superficially as if the natural disasters were a big factor to be considered, and making a storm inside a glass of water. They are not, at least not in serious datacenter businesses.

    Miami is the telecoms gateway to all Central, South America, the Caribbean and especially, for offshore banking (which requires things to be safe). Most of the fibers from SA and Europe (obviously those not terminating in Ashburn or NYC) end in Miami or Boca Ratón. Miami is down, a huge part of the world is down. Plus, fiber paths to it include east and west of Florida, one going to Atlanta and Ashburn, other going to Dallas.

    Plus, one of the few Tier 4 datacenters of the US is there, Terremark's NAP of the Americas (a.k.a. "the nuclear bunker"). It is completely redundant, and can handle quakes, storms, hurricanes and still be completely up and running. It can stay up for months on itself without refueling.

    CoreSite's datacenter is also a small bunker that can handle anything. Weeks without refueling.

    The third building (where we are at), Digital Realty Trust's, is not bunker-like but has been rebuild from scratch with everything reinforced, and at least two weeks of fuel onsite for powering the generators. All fiber is geographically redundant, and there is exclusive public and private fiber piping throughout the city underground for carriers.

    Last, there is the Miami Data Vault (where Sago is). The issue there is just physical location ("dangerous" place abandoned by city authorities), as well as the building was a former BellSouth office. For reformations/rebuildings, the quality is the difference - in the case of DRT's facility, it was a very well done job with one of the thickest walls I have seen. As for MDV, I don't know because I have never been inside there personally, but have had servers hosted there years ago and no downtime on them, as well as I have a corporate partner who has a huge cage inside the MDV with no issues on power or connectivity.

    Beside these four, there are a lot of other smaller or not-so-smart facilities that are present in "normal" office buildings.

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    Florida is not really an issue for a prepared DataCenter. In the event of a cat5 hurricane I will be happily sitting in the E Solutions NOC with months worth of food stuffs and water serving up pages like I would be any other day.

    This is like saying you don't trust 1-Wilshire because of the earthquakes.

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    The issues these customers are having has nothing to do with florida but alot to do with the datacenter they are located at.

    If uptime reliability quality 24/7 support is king then E-solutions should be on your radar. In the event of a natural or man made disaster i feel certain that E-solution's will still be online functioning.

    The only advice that I can give to anyone in the market for dedicated/colocation in the Tampa market is to take the time to visit the different locations our company did and we never looked back.

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    i'd been chating with Steve about the network problems, if this continues i'll move on too.

    He said that those problems has been resolved, so, i'll give HV 2 months at least. Since, they has been great with me in the past.- But for really, network's issues makes my money being on risk.-

    From what i know, HV is a great provider, but when an issue related to the network appears, it must be resolved ASAP or HV's customers will start losing money. I will start losing money. And my biz is all i have

    I hope to get everything resolved by the next few months.

    Give they a chance to resolve the network's problem, if they don't we'll move on

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    I believe Jodohost also has a pretty nice footprint at Nap of the Americas.. they're probably worth contacting as well. Stephen over there is good people.
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    I think by the way that AYKSolutions has some nice deals out of Miami On Mzimaand Savvis bw
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