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  1. #1

    Data Centre Decision (Colo, UK)

    Crunch time... need to make a decision on this!
    Price pretty much the same for 1/2U colo

    2 datacentres (who will remain nameless) A + B
    A - South UK
    B - North UK

    I live in North UK. Travelling time to each DC, A=5 hours, B=2 hours.

    Both include a small amount of remote hands in the price and are manned 24/7.

    Who do I choose?

    Below are ping test results (from just ping). Data centre A had a small but significant packet loss from a couple of locations.
    A B
    Location where avg. avg
    Odessa, Ukraine: a 94.4 63.8
    Moscow, Russia: a 72.7 59.0
    New Zealand: a 343.5 297.7
    Sydney, Australia: a 336.3 327.1
    Johannesburg a 279.4 287.7
    Melbourne, Australia: a 320.6 331.8
    Haifa, Israel: a 75.9 78.9
    Mumbai, India: a 141.2 148.8
    Nagano, Japan: a 271.2 298.4
    Hong Kong, China: a 300.4 355.3
    Shanghai, China: a 311.4 396.9
    Singapore, Singapore: a 271.0 375.7
    Amsterdam3 e 67.5 14.4
    Amsterdam2 e 63.1 15.1
    Copenhagen, Denmark: e 23.3 22.1
    Stockholm, Sweden: e 34.5 38.1
    Zurich, Switzerland: e 32.1 35.7
    Cologne, Germany: e 23.1 26.9
    Padova, Italy: e 32.4 37.8
    Krakow, Poland: e 40.0 47.0
    Oslo, Norway: e 28.5 34.3
    Madrid, Spain: e 26.3 32.0
    Groningen e 13.6 18.1
    Antwerp, Belgium: e 12.8 17.3
    Munchen, Germany: e 21.7 29.6
    Amsterdam e 8.4 13.3
    Paris, France: e 8.1 14.2
    Lille, France: e 13.0 23.3
    Dublin, Ireland: e 13.7 26.2
    London e 1.8 8.7
    Florida, U.S.A.: u 109.0 108.8
    San Francisco u 154.1 160.3
    Vancouver, Canada: u 159.8 173.3
    Austin, U.S.A.: u 128.4 141.9
    Santa Clara, U.S.A.: u 151.4 168.0
    Rio de Janeiro u 202.8 226.4
    Chicago, U.S.A.: u 97.9 109.4
    New York, U.S.A.: u 82.4 94.3

  2. #2
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    I would say Data Centre B, I would not expect packet loss from either and as you are closer if you need to replace anything in your equipment its only a 2 hour drive and not a 5 hour drive.
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    I would say the closer of the two.

    reasons being:

    Better speed considering your closer.

    Less time to get to if things go wrong.

    less travelling for when you want to colo more equipment.

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    I'm surprised you're experiencing *any* packet loss - packet loss anywhere is completely unacceptable... i'd get someone to take a look at that - it's certainly very strange.

    With regards to the co-lo question, all other things being equal - go for the one closest to you. Swapping drives, performing upgrades etc are much easier when the datacenter is just down the road.
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    Which UK facilities are these?

    In terms of of 1/2 a U, 2 hours or 5 hours doesn't really make a lot of difference, I'd get the box shipped, setup and use the remote hands (if you mean't 1/2 a cab, that's different).

    Better speed considering your closer.
    Unfortunately the majority of UK residential connectivity will go via London or Manchester anyway.

    If the prices are identical and you've no plans to add a lot more kit I'd go with the better connectivity and facility over location.

    Of course if location A has packet loss due to poor configuration or carrier choice then naturally choose location B but based on the locations you've listed latencies to, it wouldn't be unusual to see occasional minor packet-loss on an mtr to some locations.

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    Are their any league tables of co-location providers?
    Also it would be good if it also said whether they OWNED their own DC
    I'm thinking though datacenter B... location. does 10ms really matter?

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by RickSeymour View Post
    Are their any league tables of co-location providers?
    Also it would be good if it also said whether they OWNED their own DC
    I'm thinking though datacenter B... location. does 10ms really matter?
    If they own the DC then I'd take that into account certainly.

    Might be wise to post the two companies names and get some reviews / feedback on them both ?
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    Yea... ok then...

    Data Centre A is Blue Square Group (PoundHost) in Maidenhead
    Data Centre B is IceColo (M247) in Manchester

    I've visited Icecolo and was impressed, not been to Maidenhead.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by RickSeymour View Post
    Yea... ok then...

    Data Centre A is Blue Square Group (PoundHost) in Maidenhead
    Data Centre B is IceColo (M247) in Manchester

    I've visited Icecolo and was impressed, not been to Maidenhead.
    Well PoundHost are well known and I'm sure you can pull up some reviews.

    IceColo is new, it's by Open hosting but there may not be many reviews of their colo.

    If being able to physically get to your kit relatively quickly is important then the choice is simple.

    Otherwise see what you can get in terms of reviews of the both.
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  10. #10
    Hi,

    If those are your 2 choices your have narrowed it down to I would go with IceColo. The guys are Openhosting, do things well and don't skimp on things. They are good to work with.

    If you wanted a site somewhere in the middle then you could look at uksolutions.co.uk

    Anyway they are my thoughts !.

    Paul

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