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  1. #1

    best way of back up

    hi

    I have 3 websites on dedicated server(linux - plesk)
    my data are about 2gigs. I want to know what is best
    way of backing up ?

    thanks

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    You can always try,

    http://www.r1soft.com/
    or
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync

    Are you doing backup from server to server?

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    Depends on the configuration: static or dynamic pages.
    It also depends on how much data you can afford to loose and how fast you want to be back up and running.
    A simple mechanisme:
    If static just an rsync to an external provider. If dynamic you will hae to backup the database as well.

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    one site is dynamic (medical articles and big vb forum)
    others are static...

    I want to know what is best way to choose?

    having back up on my server is enouph or it is better to have back
    up on remote server on the data center?

    if I choose remote...I have to pay 50 dollars per month...

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    It is always better to have remote backups (you can of course also keep the local backups if you do this). Make sure you choose a decent backup provider with a good track record.
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    Plesk has a backup option with remote FTP, lookup for a VPS server, or a backup provider.
    you only need a private secure server with FTPD installed on it, plesk panel will do the rest for you.
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    thanks

    I have dedicated server from iweb

    they send my data by using the software
    http://www.r1soft.com/
    on remote server on their data center

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    Quote Originally Posted by babak54 View Post
    thanks

    I have dedicated server from iweb

    they send my data by using the software
    http://www.r1soft.com/
    on remote server on their data center
    Very good :-)
    happy to hear you got this sorted.
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    thanks

    I am going to get remote back up service...

    but i have two questions...

    1-what is differnce between hiring cheap server and sending file
    by ftp and r1soft software? ftp sending is not automatically?

    2-what is the necessity of having remote back up ? local back up
    is not enouph? have you seen the disasters...

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    I use Amazon s3, and manually ftp backup. The only shortcoming is not fully automatic, normally, it takes me 1 hour to backup about 6 gigs of data. I do weekly backups. If you're looking for daily backups, then, I'd recommend using a service like r1soft. Would also recommend keeping a backup on your local hard drive, and a backup on a remote server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babak54 View Post
    thanks

    I am going to get remote back up service...

    but i have two questions...

    1-what is differnce between hiring cheap server and sending file
    by ftp and r1soft software? ftp sending is not automatically?

    2-what is the necessity of having remote back up ? local back up
    is not enouph? have you seen the disasters...
    For your first question, if you would transfer your files every day to another server by FTP, it would generate a lot of traffic and a lot of load on your server.
    Also, if there is a failure that is difficult to recover from (e.g, OS corruption that requires you to reinstall), you will not be able to easily - and quickly - restore your server to it's original state.

    R1Soft backups your entire disk (including your OS and it's configuration) and allows you to do a bare-metal restore which essentially allows you to restore everything from A to Z.
    R1Soft also backups your entire disk once and then only backups the data that has changed since the last backup occurred, thus avoiding a lot of bandwidth and resource usage that can be used elsewhere.
    Since an image is worth 1000 words, you can take a look at the image I've put in attachment

    For your second question, remote backups allows you to protect your data in case of disk failure and of course, against disasters also.

    I hope that shed some light on the topic,

    Good luck,
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    Looks like the image didn't go through, here it is:
    http://wiki.r1soft.com/download/atta...-cdp-graph.jpg
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    thanks iWeb-Foo for your good details

    if one day the disasters happened the second hard that receives
    data`s by R1Soft backups is on the same data center or out of the data center?. i mean if one day as example data center fired(like what happened for theplanet.com before..) the data`s that has been saved on remote server will be destroyed too.sorry for my poor english

    I mean back up is out of data center by using R1Soft backups ?

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    Well, let's put it like this:
    - With backups done on your own disk, if there is a disk failure (which is unlikely by itself), you will lose your data.
    - With backups done on a remote server, in the same datacenter, the scenario above would allow you to recover your data
    - If there is a major disaster at the datacenter (which is very unlikely), then there are off-site backups.

    Offsite backups are usually provided by default, however, I am not personally familiar with our infrastructure on that level.

    Also, if you'd really like to do backups on your own disks, we recommend to have at least a RAID-1 array (software or hardware) so that if you lose one disk, you data remains safe.
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    Remote backups are the way to go, I do my backups to another server in the same datacenter so I don't use bandwith.

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    Remote backup into the same datacenter does't help you if the datacenter blows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastserv View Post
    Plesk has a backup option with remote FTP, lookup for a VPS server, or a backup provider.
    you only need a private secure server with FTPD installed on it, plesk panel will do the rest for you.
    it seems it is good idea for me too

    does plesk automatically sends files to another server perfectly?
    do you have any experiece with this way? I choosed vpsland
    as second server.it needs less money than r1soft and also it is
    out of my data center. my data is only less than 1.5 gigs.

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    Remote backups are the best way !

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    We swear by R1Soft, There backup solutions are great http://www.r1soft.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncubehosting View Post
    We swear by R1Soft, There backup solutions are great http://www.r1soft.com/
    the software is great...I agree but if i want to use it
    i have to pay 50 dollars for 50 gigs space(my data center told)

    but it seems i can get one acount of vps servers (10 gigs space
    24 dollars) and pay less money...or even (6 gigs space 10 dollars)
    I make plesk to send daily or weekly...oautomatically or handy..
    http://www.vpsland.com/windowsplans.html
    my main data is just 1.5 gigs.

    what do y think?

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    ultimately i choosed and ordered r1soft .I think it worths to invest for proctecting my data.it woths for future of my site

    thanks all for replying

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