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    Do you get what you pay for?

    This can be a simple thread to post what you currently get and how much you pay for it.
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    • 1000 mbps 2 TB of bandwidth
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    I pay $199.00/mth No Set Up Fee!

    Retail: ~$469.00/mth
    Setup Fees: $49.00

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    Wow a xenon servers Xeon*

    In USA this price seem to be fair, average the retail price is around 250$/m for the same configuration!
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    By retail I mean how much I would pay with out my specially quoted price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGotzmann View Post
    What do you mean by the retail price?
    He seems to mean the "rack" price -- e.g. the amount that would otherwise be charged before any specials or discounts.

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    I'm currenctly with softlayer i'm paying low but not comparing other dc's (gigenet, hivelocity, limestone and etc) but if you look at other providers you can't help wonder when the quad will drop to 100-130

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudWay View Post
    I'm currenctly with softlayer i'm paying low but not comparing other dc's (gigenet, hivelocity, limestone and etc) but if you look at other providers you can't help wonder when the quad will drop to 100-130
    I suppose it will drop when its consumes less power in Watts per month. So never !!!

    Not to mention depreciation of 50% a year, someones has to pay for the hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    Not to mention depreciation of 50% a year, someones has to pay for the hardware.
    Indeed. Some of the lower prices naturally involve longer hardware pay-off calculations on the part of the provider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Indeed. Some of the lower prices naturally involve longer hardware pay-off calculations on the part of the provider.

    -mike
    Well im not sure how long they last in business. The hosting world has changed allot since some years. Currently people change leased servers faster and faster, and nobody wants the older models anymore.
    Some years ago, it was a pain to move data, IPs, etc. So clients used the same server 2 years or even more. Today with virtualization they can move data in hours. That means they change for the same price to the new models as fast as they are available. If a provider calculates longer time then others do in the industry, he will be out of business fast, as hardware depreciation seems to be faster each day. I just mention this, because normally clients always ask when this model, or that server is going to be cheaper, its not expensive because providers are greedy, its because there chances of high loses with high end hardware.

    The more power horse a server is, the more power it consumes in the rack, the more bandwidth it eats, the more costly the hardware is, and the more faster it loses its value. Normally people that hire a quad core with tons of RAM are also the ones that need to push the switch to 100% of usage.

    I really see some providers offering very low quad cores, but then there are surprises. Bandwidth is normally oversold, or its multihomed or hardware is really desktop hardware, cheap quality. I dont say there arent cheap providers, but if something is to cheap, there is something wrong with it.

    Clients don΄t see any difference between disks, or ram sticks, or anything else. But its not the same a server with desktops drives, with desktop ram and cheap brands, that will freeze once a week. There is a reason why there are enterprise disks and ECC registered memory RAM, etc.
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    Host : caratnetworks

    Core 2 Duo
    4 GB DDR2 800
    Cent OS - 32-bit
    100 mbps, 1 TB BW
    Direct Admin panel

    for 116.10 CAD

    i think i get what i am paying for.

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    To be honest, hardware definitely depreciates with time and the price for the hardware goes down. However, this does not mean the hardware cost is covered so easily. At times, there is a huge loss which needs to be covered with other hardware sales and lease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IC3 Networks View Post
    Host : caratnetworks

    Core 2 Duo
    4 GB DDR2 800
    Cent OS - 32-bit
    100 mbps, 1 TB BW
    Direct Admin panel

    for 116.10 CAD

    i think i get what i am paying for.
    Very nice server also what speed is that Core 2 Duo?

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    Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 (2.8 GHZ / 3 MB CACHE / 1066 MHZ FSB)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYDOT View Post
    I suppose it will drop when its consumes less power in Watts per month. So never !!!

    Not to mention depreciation of 50% a year, someones has to pay for the hardware.
    Your crazy.... back then people where using P4 that use 100w and now the quad uses 95 our less if xeon version.

    I see other providers offering I7 for $200 (Ie gigenet) and limestone selling quad core for about $130.

    OBS: Note to say other host's like Burst,Hivelocity and etc...

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    Hardware is tricky. Its always outdated really fast. Prices also have to do a lot with what kind of network, support, location and such. So prices may be good, but what else are you getting with that price?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleHopJeremy View Post
    Hardware is tricky. Its always outdated really fast. Prices also have to do a lot with what kind of network, support, location and such. So prices may be good, but what else are you getting with that price?
    Didn't understand you...


    I remember the good prices on singlehop....

    There where i7 for 169 mo. on 3 mo plan and quad (q9550) for 129.
    (When this I7 was offered it was a great price and still is)

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    Hello there Stanley

    Host: Limestone Networks

    Dual CPU Quad Core XEON Processors
    8gb DDR2 RAM
    Debian Lenny 64 bit
    100mbps uplink
    2tb Bandwith
    2x500gb WD RE3'S in RAID1
    32 IP addresses

    $249.95/month

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    Quote Originally Posted by XENnode View Post
    Hello there Stanley

    Host: Limeston Networks

    Dual CPU Quad Core XEON Processors
    8gb DDR2 RAM
    Debian Lenny 64 bit
    100mbps uplink
    2tb Bandwith
    2x500gb WD RE3'S in RAID1
    32 IP addresses

    $249.95/month
    Looks pretty good for a few hundred VPS'. Your using Xen right?

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    Yep, XEN Virtualization all the way.

    Few hundred VPS'?!? Hell no lol, more like 15-20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XENnode View Post
    Yep, XEN Virtualization all the way.

    Few hundred VPS'?!? Hell no lol, more like 15-20.
    Ha you and me have different ideas of how many go on a server, but it's nice to see someone isn't overselling their hardware.

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    Over-selling never helps in the long run. You have to answer your customers someday as to what you have done to them. Anyways, We setup the following server configurations to setup 15 - 20 VPS's :

    Dual Quad Core Intel Xeon e5430 or the latest i7 core series ( 5520 )
    16GB DDR3 RAM
    2x500GB SATA II Drives
    RAID1 Configuration

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleHopJeremy View Post
    Hardware is tricky. Its always outdated really fast. Prices also have to do a lot with what kind of network, support, location and such. So prices may be good, but what else are you getting with that price?
    If your talking to me, then nothing just a server, but I did add two gigs of ram making the total $229/mth

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    Host: Dynaceron
    Processor: Intel Core2Quad (Quad Q9550™ 4x2.83GHz)
    RAM: 8GB
    Hard drives: 2 x 500GB SATA
    Port: 1gbit
    Bandwidth: 5000GB (5TB)/month
    OS: Debian 5.0 32-bit (self-upgraded to Debian 6.0)
    Monthly price: $149.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscholes View Post
    Host: Dynaceron
    Processor: Intel Core2Quad (Quad Q9550™ 4x2.83GHz)
    RAM: 8GB
    Hard drives: 2 x 500GB SATA
    Port: 1gbit
    Bandwidth: 5000GB (5TB)/month
    OS: Debian 5.0 32-bit (self-upgraded to Debian 6.0)
    Monthly price: $149.99
    Good value

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