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    Where Do You Store Your Back Ups?

    Hi, I would like some tips on how to create back ups with WHM/cPanel on a Reseller if you could.



    Also where to store them?

    I was thinking of storing them up on a VPS or Dedi server that just has backups or should I buy a enternal Hard Drive for my computer and store them on that? I have a 500GB Hard Drive.

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    We dump ours on servers in a different DC. If you are just using the static zips then any server local or remote will do.

    You'll find a lot of people here will use CDP or Rsync as they cater for multi server, bare metal setups.
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    Is there a step by step tutorial on how to back up sites with cpanel off a reseller?

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    You can back it up where you want. But where ever you backup at you want a fast connection to and from the location so if you have a server go down and need back immediately you can restore them fast. If you back them up on a residential connection your update is probably going to be no more then 700kbs uplink depending on your provider.
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    I was thinking of backing them up on my external hard drive and leaving the hard drive at my office only thing is that when a server goes down and if it is between 8pm est to 6am est then the server or site wont be open till 7am the next day, I open up my office at 7am every day and out of it 8pm.. What should I do carry the storage device on me at all times or just upload them to a dedi server or vps so when i am home i can allways access the files?

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    Hi,

    As said above incase something happens it will be very hard for you to restore them from your external HDD. If you have the budget purchase a dedicated server and have your server back them up everyday to the other server. When there is an emergency you can easily restore the accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    Also where to store them?
    Shared webhosting providers (such as surpasshosting.com) often offer
    lots of disk space for very little money (in this case, $6/month for
    200G). I've tried this and it works well for me.

    You can also install gmailfs and store your backups in free gmail
    accounts. I haven't tried this option.

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    Im going to contact them, and read there ToS. Do they allow to host backups as storage more like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    Im going to contact them, and read there ToS. Do they allow to host backups as storage more like?
    Many webhosting providers have restrictions on what you can store in
    the space they give you (eg, no private files/backups, only files for
    webserving), but surpasshosting.com doesn't and/or has never given me
    a hassle about it.

    Even before I started backing up there, I had an uncompressed copy of
    OSM's planet file (at about 50G), and they didn't say anything.

    Note: I'm not affiliated w/ surpasshosting.com (except as a customer)
    + don't get anything for saying this. I wouldn't webhost w/ them,
    since they sometimes make site-breaking changes w/o telling anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    I was thinking of backing them up on my external hard drive and leaving the hard drive at my office only thing is that when a server goes down and if it is between 8pm est to 6am est then the server or site wont be open till 7am the next day, I open up my office at 7am every day and out of it 8pm.. What should I do carry the storage device on me at all times or just upload them to a dedi server or vps so when i am home i can allways access the files?
    once every while i backup on a external device as well and on another server daily.
    In this way that you say if the upload speed of your network is small such as happening in Athens takes ages to restore.
    Its better to get a small box or a vps to save your data
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    Alright thanks for the ideas, Im going to see now if they accept money orders till i get my paypal real soon...

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    Keep in mind some place if you pay by check or money order and you request a refund the will only refund the money to the account. but if you use a credit care or paypal the will refund the money back. So just make sure you know their refund policy.
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    I know about that, Im not cheap with money I really dont care if I lose money to tell you the truth. But i have to start careing.

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    You could also try somewhere that offers rysnc space since this is inevitabily FTP friendly also.

    iirc cpanel allows backups to remote ftp servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    I was thinking of backing them up on my external hard drive and leaving the hard drive at my office only thing is that when a server goes down and if it is between 8pm est to 6am est then the server or site wont be open till 7am the next day, I open up my office at 7am every day and out of it 8pm.. What should I do carry the storage device on me at all times or just upload them to a dedi server or vps so when i am home i can allways access the files?
    Believe it or not there is hosting available for every need! There are specialist backup hosting providers. I suggest you poke around the other hosting offers forum and pick one:

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=132

    You can backup your files using FTP, rsync and various other technologies. I am sure your new backup host will help you out with some guides.

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    If you can get the files on a Windows/Mac machine, you might try
    mozy.com, which charges $5/month for unlimited backups and even keeps
    older backups for 30 days.

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    I have a Mac Lap top I was thinking of just storing the files on but can you tell me more about mozy.com?

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    Mozy is basically a backup service for consumers. I think they have a software program that you install, and it basically uploads whatever you want backed up.

    I would check out webby cart, they have FTP and Rsync backup for reasonable. While I was a customer of them, they were good.
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    I would suggest that wherever and whatever you back up to, that you encrypt the files. If the files contain senstive/confidential customer data you can be held liable if any of it gets stolen. Even if you back-up to your desktop at home and someone breaks into your house and steals your PC.

    I've been using products from ce-infosys to do volume encryption and have never had a problem (except the one time I forgot a phrase key).

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    there are so many file hosters so that should not be an ache to find where to host backups...rapidshare etc.

    PS: Its just so funny to see offers like 5 dollars for unlimited space for backups. Once your backups will eat up around 50+ Gb you will be kicked out from this place...

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    Thats what Im kinda worried about, ether someone putting a key-logger on my computer or anything by them getting the information because im hosting some sites that are very important and have peoples socials and etc.

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    just encrypt them, if you encrypt them at source then you'll be fine.

    Does your current providor do offsite solutions at all?
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    I don't think so. I might just weekly back them up myself, for a few months and put them up on a Dedi Server or VPS for a while I have lot of time on my hands then after a while Ill go and get some one to do it or a program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    I don't think so. I might just weekly back them up myself, for a few months and put them up on a Dedi Server or VPS for a while I have lot of time on my hands then after a while Ill go and get some one to do it or a program.
    You could also store your backups in your wife or girlfriend's bra, that way you can find out of she's truly loyal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcarney1987 View Post
    If you back them up on a residential connection your update is probably going to be no more then 700kbs uplink depending on your provider.

    Incorrect some residental connections are 10mbps uplink. Mine is 15mbps uplink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt5 View Post
    Incorrect some residental connections are 10mbps uplink. Mine is 15mbps uplink.
    If you're actually getting 15mbps that would be amazing. Might as well fill the garage with servers and host from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToNeZ View Post
    Hi, I would like some tips on how to create back ups with WHM/cPanel on a Reseller if you could.

    Also where to store them?

    I was thinking of storing them up on a VPS or Dedi server that just has backups or should I buy a enternal Hard Drive for my computer and store them on that? I have a 500GB Hard Drive.
    We have a redundant backup policy. We run our cPanel Backups on a dedicated box and then once a week it is sent to our file cloud, just in case.

    The concern of storing a backup on the same as your production is "what happens if the server crashes?" An external HDD is probably better and less expensive since you own it.

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    I was also thinking of doing a policy that we back up everything ever friday at a sertant time and then the next friday we make another back up but with the back up we downloaded last week we delete it off our external harddrive and send it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucwebhost View Post
    We have a redundant backup policy. We run our cPanel Backups on a dedicated box and then once a week it is sent to our file cloud, just in case.

    The concern of storing a backup on the same as your production is "what happens if the server crashes?" An external HDD is probably better and less expensive since you own it.
    I like Virtuozzo setups for this reason. Very easy to make a container snapshot and verify it on anther host (or even the same one).

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    For personal backups, I ultimately backup to media such as DVDs and then store those in a safe deposit box.

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    As I only host sites for myself on my reseller plan, backups are generally just stored on my personal computer. However a shared hosting plan from another provider may be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_tanks View Post
    If you're actually getting 15mbps that would be amazing. Might as well fill the garage with servers and host from home.
    I have a 25/15 (business class FiOS) connection at home. I average about 8 mbps upstream, but it's sufficient . I did host a couple of personal sites on it for about a year with very limited downtime.

    I have an old 2003 tower here that I use to host some game servers (and one non essential site), I send the WHM backup from my VPS to it.

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    My web host doesn't allow me to keep backups on server. I keep it in computer HDD.

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    in a safe place maybe on a cd rom or floppy disc if you still use them.

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    Off-site and in-house servers.

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    I could use a floppy but, I dont have a floppy drive also most sites I host have lot disk space, About 15+

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    I keep my backups in many places. I have 3 portable external drives along with a primary and secondary harddrive. I also have a server that no one knows about and I use that to backup my computer daily / weekly.
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    We run rsync backups to an external provider, xsbackup.com

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