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    Not sure were to go from here, Might need semi dedicated.

    Currently http://otakuplayground.com is hosted by everity.com and for the past few days or so the cpu load has been really high causing page loads to be slow. I have a ticket with everity.com about this issue and I keep getting told my site is using the most load but not causing this issue and they are still looking at what is causing the issue. They do keep telling me I need to upgrade to semi dedicated, which do to financial issues on my part I can not do.

    One thing I did do because I was told my site was using the most load was clean up the site and remove add on scripts that I was no longer using. I removed so much that the database went down almost 7 mb not sure how much the overall space went down. I just monitor the database closely and saw it went down by that much. Although even removing that much unneeded stuff it did not change how much load I was using and yesterday after removing more things the cpu load went to almost 100 if not 100 and caused the page not to load at all. Only reason I know how high the load got is I had ssh open and was running the top command.

    Any way I have been talking to mddhosting about this issue to see if maybe they might be able to help me figure out how to optimize my site. In doing so they have been saying I could go with semi dedicated with them. Which would be about the same as going semi dedicated with everity, how ever if I go with a 2 year plan with mdd it would be cheaper because of the discounts for paying for a 2 year plan. How ever I do not have that much money to pay up front.

    I am honestly at a loss as to what to do next. I do not really want to leave everity because they have been such a good host for about 2 years now.

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    why don't go to Dedicated server?

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    A managed VPS would be a good step up from shared hosting. It's a lot cheaper than a dedicated server.
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    What is your budget if you don't mind me asking? You might be able to find an affordable VPS that suits your budget and gives you that extra stability since you won't be sharing a server with other people.
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    Well my budget is no more then 20 a month. Both semidedicated with everity and mdd is about 20 a month.
    I had vps at one time before I had to drop it do to not being able to afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy-T View Post
    Well my budget is no more then 20 a month. Both semidedicated with everity and mdd is about 20 a month.
    I had vps at one time before I had to drop it do to not being able to afford it.
    20$? hummm i think you need up your buget

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    If I could I would. To be honest that's actually pushing it.

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    Were they not able to pinpoint which script was causing the excessive CPU load? The forum doesn't seem too busy so it's most likely coming from one of your arcade scripts. Is it out of the question to consolidate the games you are running and remove the unnecessary ones?

    You could also monetize your site to help increase your budget for hosting. Add a donations button, google adwords, text link ads, etc.
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    I'll be the odd one to say this. I don't see how a $20 shared hosting account (which is what semi-dedicated is at the end of the day) will help keep online a site that manages to otherwise take a whole server down. Surely this would imply you're using a very big chunk of the server's capabilities.

    Either that, or the server you're currently on is loaded to the brim anyway, and your "more than the average" usage makes you one of the candidates for suspension/upgrade.

    In other words, you either need a significantly more powerful solution (more than $20 can buy) or this is mainly a server management issue on the part of your host (and you're then likely to be able to keep using an under $20 shared hosting account).

    Maybe sharing some of your site's statistics will help hosts here assess what your site really needs (blog/forum/other usage levels).

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    How much storage/bandwidth is your site pushing right now? Since everity verified that your site isn't the cause of their server problems but mentioned that you would need to go semi-dedicated, how about less oversold hosts like medialayer and precision effect?

    Their plans cost less than a semi-dedicated and can be paid monthly. Though you probably need to speak to them if they can handle otakuplayground.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by eLief! View Post
    Were they not able to pinpoint which script was causing the excessive CPU load? The forum doesn't seem too busy so it's most likely coming from one of your arcade scripts. Is it out of the question to consolidate the games you are running and remove the unnecessary ones?

    You could also monetize your site to help increase your budget for hosting. Add a donations button, google adwords, text link ads, etc.
    We deleted lots of games recently but that was before the issue started.

    I have a donations button. I have a few ads at the bottom and I think a link to your hosting is in that under ocporals' official host as your host is the one ocportal recommends.

    Oh and they still do not know what is causing it. They are sure it is not my site but they are unsure what it its or who is causing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsev View Post
    How much storage/bandwidth is your site pushing right now? Since everity verified that your site isn't the cause of their server problems but mentioned that you would need to go semi-dedicated, how about less oversold hosts like medialayer and precision effect?

    Their plans cost less than a semi-dedicated and can be paid monthly. Though you probably need to speak to them if they can handle otakuplayground.com
    12 gigs of storage is what my site needs and I use any were from 30 to 50 gb of bandwidth a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy-T View Post
    12 gigs of storage is what my site needs and I use any were from 30 to 50 gb of bandwidth a month.
    With that you should be fine on a regular shared hosting plan, especially if they have said your site is not causing the server load.

    If you don't want to leave everity you could always setup an account with a different host and keep both active until eVerity gets there issues resolved. Another option would be to see if they could switch you to a different server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldcdc View Post
    I'll be the odd one to say this. I don't see how a $20 shared hosting account (which is what semi-dedicated is at the end of the day) will help keep online a site that manages to otherwise take a whole server down. Surely this would imply you're using a very big chunk of the server's capabilities.

    Either that, or the server you're currently on is loaded to the brim anyway, and your "more than the average" usage makes you one of the candidates for suspension/upgrade.

    In other words, you either need a significantly more powerful solution (more than $20 can buy) or this is mainly a server management issue on the part of your host (and you're then likely to be able to keep using an under $20 shared hosting account).

    Maybe sharing some of your site's statistics will help hosts here assess what your site really needs (blog/forum/other usage levels).
    For the stats you can go to http://bunnykinsblog.com/piwik/index...index&idSite=2
    That does not show bandwidth but the bandwidth is around a gig a day some times more some times less. My site is using about 11 gigs of space.

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    If your site is not at fault everity should be able to figure out who is

    IMHO, if everity, who you've been happy with until now, is not able to figure out what other site(s) on that server are causing the problem, since they have told you it is not your site, you should consider moving it to another host. You said you have contacted Mike at MDD and I know he is very competent (I have one site on one of his shared servers). He can determine whether it will run OK on one of his shared servers and if not, on one of his semi dedicated servers (he just added a new one and had special prices at that time). I think going to a VDS or a dedicated box would be a PITA, with the sys admin time required and if you can avoid it, do so. I have 2 sites on shared servers in different DCs of OLM. During the past several months, both of my sites were affected, because of other sites abusing resources. OLM was able to figure out what and who was causing the problem. I believe everity should be able to figure that out too. GL

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    since they have told you it is not your site, you should consider moving it to another host.
    I agree, there seems to be no real reason why you should consider upgrading. You have experience with a number of hosts. Try using one of them, and go for a package that fits your budget.
    Last edited by ldcdc; 09-25-2009 at 04:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldcdc View Post
    I agree, there seems to be no real reason why you should consider upgrading. You have experience with a number of hosts. Try using one of them, and go for a package that fits your budget.
    Very good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldcdc View Post
    I agree, there seems to be no real reason why you should consider upgrading. You have experience with a number of hosts. Try using one of them, and go for a package that fits your budget.
    Ya I have had well over a dozen hosts. Although some of them are closed down.
    Well I am talking to mdd right now I did have vps with them for a short while about 3 or 4 months ago and all was well.

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    Well I am switched over to semi dedicated with mddhosting now. So far so good.
    Nothing is missing and every thing is working that I can see.
    Oh and wow the upgrade speed for wordpress is fast, no more waiting a minute or longer for wordpress plug ins or the main thing to update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bqinternet View Post
    A managed VPS would be a good step up from shared hosting. It's a lot cheaper than a dedicated server.
    Amy,

    Scott has a suggestion, and I'd like to add a few things to it. I know you host other sites, with other hosts correct? If you do, could you possibly consolidate into a decent semi-dedicated or VPS account?

    I'm sure you've probably thought about consolidation, but just wanted to throw that out there.

    Other than that, I know 2 Year pricing would be a steep upfront cost. I would recommend checking out a few other companies, I'm sure some either have specials or would make a special quote out for you.

    At any rate, good luck in your search!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy-T View Post
    Well I am switched over to semi dedicated with mddhosting now. So far so good.
    Nothing is missing and every thing is working that I can see.
    Oh and wow the upgrade speed for wordpress is fast, no more waiting a minute or longer for wordpress plug ins or the main thing to update.
    Good to hear! I should have read the rest of the thread.
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    Oh and you are correct about having more then one host.
    At one time I had 4 hosts. I dropped whirlhost do to massive issues with them so that got me down to 3. I then dropped downtownhost do to my 3 years running out and could not get another 3 years even though I wanted to as they are a good company.
    I got down to everity.com which is what this thread is about and powermonster.net which actually is a recently one that I joined back in June. Now in a little bit everity.com will be dropped even though it saddens me to do that.

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