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    Exclamation Plesk vs DotNetPanel

    So I hate Plesk because they have screwed with me for a long time, however I have not been able to find anything to replace them. I recently tried DotNetPanel is what a joke of a product that is... Maybe I'm going it all wrong, but if anyone has any recommandations for a fresh server that needs a Web Hosting Control Panel, please, please post it here.

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    Hosting Controller 8 is one of the best available in the market today. Though it has its share of bugs, it is better than the most I have tried for Windows. Also watch out for Enkompass which should be released before the year end.
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    I am actually looking at a control panel for our windows boxes right now. Helm has been suggested. Any thoughts on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashant1979 View Post
    Hosting Controller 8 is one of the best available in the market today. Though it has its share of bugs, it is better than the most I have tried for Windows. Also watch out for Enkompass which should be released before the year end.
    I can not agree with that.

    When we used that product there support lacked an english way of speaking and wanted to charge to be bumped to the front of the line when servers were down and no action on ticket for over 24 hrs.

    Granted that was over a year ago for us so perhaps things got better.

    what do you need this server to do? will you just host websites or email?

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    Besides Hosting Controller 8 the Helm panel is another good option for Window
    its stable and faster.
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    What were your issues with DotNetPanel? It isn't perfect, but I've been using it for over 2 years and like it far better than anything I've seen from Plesk, Helm, or others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inspiron View Post
    Besides Hosting Controller 8 the Helm panel is another good option for Window
    its stable and faster.
    Hosting Controller 8 is a lot better and easier to manage than Helm. Also, since Helm was acquired by Parallels, there is a lot of doubt about its continuity. A lot has been discussed on it in WHT. I had checked DNP and found a few features not too user friendly. HC8 has its share of flaws, but isn't it with all the control panels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qgyen View Post
    What were your issues with DotNetPanel? It isn't perfect, but I've been using it for over 2 years and like it far better than anything I've seen from Plesk, Helm, or others.
    broken isntalls, insecure scripts, old versions of software, not very easy to upgrade to new versions of php or .net, no 64bit support, no IIS 7 support, no liked by the community, and bad support is what comes to the top of my head.

    again that was over 1 or 2+ years ago.

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    Lol. I was going to say, no IIS7 support? I know I've been using that for a while now. I haven't had any issues with insecure scripts (though I lock down its services), broken installs, 64bit, or upgrades of .NET. I don't use PHP though.

    I was wondering what Landmine's issues were though, since it sounded like he recently evaluated it.

    I general, I dislike almost all the control panels out there. DNP is just about the only one I can tolerate. Its main issues are with a lot of servers and trying to migrate, applying upgrades is a pain when you have a lot of servers, and a few others.
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    My major issue with DNP was setup and once it was setup it wasn't very fun with a few bugs I saw. Most of the bugs I found somewhere online saying apply this patch or change that file.

    But for me that just isn't a stable product. I couldn't see my poor little wallet paying for something I couldn't respect.

    Recently switched to a new server provider and I'm getting Plesk 9 as part of the much cheaper package I had, and I did own Plesk 8.6 but that doesnt work in Server 2008 II7. So until I feel the need, and I dont think I will anymore or at least for a long time, I'll just leave the non-broken Control Panel alone.

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    Support was a major issue as well. It seems most other control panels have a very active forum and community. I didn't seem to find that with DNP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    Recently switched to a new server provider and I'm getting Plesk 9 as part of the much cheaper package I had, .
    I'm in the market for a host offering Plesk so I'd be interested in learning more about the deal you got.... and whether you're happy.

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    Both Plesk and DNP are pretty good products. I think that DNP has better customer care, but I think that Plesk is perhaps a slightly better product.

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    1and1 saved me a lot of money over GoDaddy and the server has better hardware specs

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    I would recommend you to go for HC8. Both DNP and HC8 are good panels but I prefer Hosting Controller because of its fast support and rich feature set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Host Our Web View Post
    broken isntalls, insecure scripts, old versions of software, not very easy to upgrade to new versions of php or .net, no 64bit support, no IIS 7 support, no liked by the community, and bad support is what comes to the top of my head.

    again that was over 1 or 2+ years ago.
    If memory serves me right I think DNP where one of, if not the first to support IIS 7?

    I'd recommend DNP over Plesk, I never felt comfortable with Plesks interface and their support is a bit lacking. DNP has been incredibly stable for us.

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    We used Helm 3 on our older Windows 2003 boxes and it has been very solid and robust product. Didn't bothered to consider Helm 4 after Parallel's buyout (since have had very poor experience with Plesk). Thereafter, we have been using DotNetPanel (over 2 years now) on large number of boxes and it has worked pretty decently. Yes, there are bugs (as it is with all software) but they have remained up to date in supporting latest technologies including some enterprise features and this keeps DNP on the top. We are also using DNP Hyper-V module for automatic provisioning of Hyper-V VPS and it works very well with good amount of handy features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooodi View Post
    I have been using Hosting Controller for the last 5 years since version 6. In my opinion the plus point of HC team is providing FREE Support on live chat as well as on ticketing system (Why should we spend extra money on support which almost cost us same as panel price ).
    BTW I never feel anything wrong in their English communication but may be you did PHD in English literature so you are expecting more .

    FYI: We are using IIS7 both 32/64 bit with latest php/mysql and other softwares and they don't have such limitation. Absolutely got no trouble at all in running latest versions.

    In my point of view parallel and Hosting Controller are the best options in current industry. For others who have different choices for them I would say " Good Luck "
    Happy that it worked out for you....

    Take a look around there website... When you read things you see words missing including there documentation.

    Perhaps we just expected too much from them for it sounds like everyone else loves em.

    We went from HC to hsphere which worked well for us, and by worked well I mean bought us time to dev our own home grown solution that intermixes with WHMCS.

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    No one has said anything bad about HC... Is it really really that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    No one has said anything bad about HC... Is it really really that good?
    my experiance is that it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    No one has said anything bad about HC... Is it really really that good?
    The right way to make final decision is to evaluate these control panels. This will give you a bright idea about product functionality and their customer services. The one which suits you better go for it.

    Best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    1and1 saved me a lot of money over GoDaddy and the server has better hardware specs
    I don't think this sentence is really worth posting here other than just increasing your post count. Quite useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driverseven View Post
    I'm in the market for a host offering Plesk so I'd be interested in learning more about the deal you got.... and whether you're happy.
    Is why I made that post. Please try to say on topic if you can.

    I've read all of these post and they all seem to say different things about what they like and dislike, however it seems that my style of control panel administration is more suited for Plesk or HC than DNP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    Is why I made that post.
    Oh, sorry for the confusion!

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    Who was hosting you? It's often not the panel but the hoster that makes or breaks the experience, so perhaps switch hosters and stick with the program you're comfortable with.

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    I find that most people's problems with their server client stem from their hosting provider, not the software. You seem to be comfortable using Plesk already - give it a shot with a different hoster. It'll be easier than learning a whole new program.

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    DotNetPanel seems good but their support is expensive, $50 per ticket for standard version and $100 per ticket for their enterprise product version. Parallel's will get you $20 per ticket if you pay for 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landmine View Post
    and I did own Plesk 8.6 but that doesnt work in Server 2008 II7..
    I was using Plesk 8.4 on a dedicated Server 2008 system.
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    I fully agree. DotNetPanel will be good choice.
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    Go with Plesk

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    Plesk is good over others but its slow many times with no reasons

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    Greetings:

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    We went from HC to hsphere which worked well for us
    Do you mind sharing why you left Hosting Controller?

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    Em, I just tried DNP. So far so good (still have some missing function), but I don't have a chance to try plesk. I will arrange my time and run some test.

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    plesk is good solution

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    Any reasons, fantome2024?
    Cost, quality, support, features, etc..

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    I tried getting into DNP but I really couldn't navigate like I could through Plesk. I pretty much quit right there and that way about the time that it had come out. I think I'll give them another shot to see if development's gotten any better.
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    All in all I like the quality of Plesk good interface, has a nice xp feel t it many people would be comfortable with it.

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    My problem with Plesk is that it’s not a multi server panel unless you plan to turn thing upside down and integrate other Paralells products with it to make it multi-server scalable panel. In this case, only other choice besides Hsphere is DNP or Hosting Controller. Enkompas from Cpanel is not just there yet.

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    Without reading all the pages in this thread, you must be doing something wrong if you think DotNetPanel sucks.

    I've used DotNetPanel for awhile now and many many of my consulting clients use it. I rarely have problems with it, from a single server install to a 20+ server hosting farm using DotNetPanel.

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    DotNetPanel is good and stable. Rarely we get into major issues.
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    Not sure why anyone would recommend plesk over DNP. Perhaps if you hadn't used DNP. Dotnetpanel is a more 'serious' windows CP with its tight Exchange, Dynamics integration.

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