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09-22-2009, 03:41 PM #1Newbie
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vps with 128mb ram: to little to do ANYTHING?
Hi all,
I've ordered a VPS @ badiduniya.com, to test out. I took the basic package, a vps with 128mb ram. It's unmanaged, and without control panel.
I'm totally new to vpses, but I figured I would be able to do what I want with some tutorials I found online.
The main reason to get a vps was to run sabnzbd, a (webbased) usenetclient. After trying different tut's to install, I can't start the client, as it gives me an error:
"error: can't start new thread".
I've tried rebooting the vps, and used "free" to check my available memory(116MB), but it still didn't work. I've been trying for days to get something running on it. Before this, I tried installing a GUI + VNC, but same error: can't start new thread. I couldn't even connect anymore because of the memory that was full. I've let it reinstall, this time with centos, but even more trouble. I haven't been able to install anything.
So far I tried it with ubuntu 9.04 and centos 5.3. something like sabnzbd shouldn't use that much ram,right?
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09-22-2009, 04:11 PM #2Temporarily Suspended
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128MB is not that good for a VPS although this may not be the cause of the error. I suspect you have an issue with permissions.
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09-22-2009, 04:17 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Shouldnt use that much ram...... have you tried contacting your host? Even though there unmanaged it sounds like its a vps issue from them not you or ram.
also how much are you paying, The site directs me to a rapidleech hosting link and you might be able to find cheaperif your paying 20+ for it.Last edited by darkeden; 09-22-2009 at 04:21 PM.
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09-22-2009, 04:22 PM #4Newbie
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I was logged in as root.
I googled the error, and it seemed to be a memory issue most of the time, so I guessed it was a memory issue=>not the host's fault.
But that's the reason why I started this thread, to see what could be the problem. I'll contact him now.
BTW: I've run a "killall5" command(in an effort to free memory without rebooting), but I can't connect to my host anymore(when connecting with putty, the cursur just keeps blinking, no error, no nothing). Any way to fix this?
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09-22-2009, 04:37 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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Plenty of uses for a 128MB VPS and I could not find memory requirements for sabnzbd so I don't know but yeah it's possible that it needs more.
Did you make sure you have everything installed?
http://sabnzbd.wikidot.com/install-centos5
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09-22-2009, 04:59 PM #6Newbie
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My vps is on Ubuntu 9.04 now. With centos, I couldn't even get cheetah installed if I'm correct. I'm not sure what the error was, I think I also couldn't start a new thread. Yum uses more memory than ap-get I've read on some forum. That's why I went back to ubuntu.
I used this install, it worked fine:
sabnzbd.wikidot.com/quick-setup#toc1
Before that, I've tried this: sabnzbd.wikidot.com/install-ubuntu-repo
(aptitude was not recognized as a command, so it didn't work), and then this: sabnzbd.wikidot.com/install-ubuntuserver804
After executing the last command, nothing seemed to happen. I couldn't access the the host (ipofserver:8080/sabnzbd/).
(I had to leave h*t*t*p*:*/*/ in all the urls because I don't have 5 posts)
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09-22-2009, 09:35 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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There are many uses for a VPS with just 128MB RAM, but running a GUI and VNC as mentioned in the OP? No way!
Web applications also tend to require more memory, maybe somebody else using sabnzbd can be more specific about its RAM requirements.
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09-22-2009, 10:00 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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09-23-2009, 02:16 PM #9Newbie
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Code:sabnzbdplus 2009-09-24 00:12:34,785::INFO::-------------------------------- 2009-09-24 00:12:34,786::INFO::sabnzbdplus-0.4.11 (rev=2517) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,786::INFO::Platform = posix 2009-09-24 00:12:34,787::INFO::Python-version = 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jul 31 2008, 17:28:52) [GCC 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)] 2009-09-24 00:12:34,813::INFO::[sabnzbd] Loading data for rss_data.sab from /root/.sabnzbd/cache/rss_data.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:34,815::INFO::[sabnzbd] Loading data for bytes7.sab from /root/.sabnzbd/cache/bytes7.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:34,816::INFO::[sabnzbd] Loading data for queue7.sab from /root/.sabnzbd/cache/queue7.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:34,816::WARNING::[downloader] No active primary servers defined, will not download! 2009-09-24 00:12:34,817::INFO::All processes started 2009-09-24 00:12:34,817::INFO::_yenc module... found! 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::INFO::celementtree module... found! 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::INFO::par2 binary... found (/usr/bin/par2) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::WARNING::unrar binary... NOT found 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::INFO::unzip binary... found (/usr/bin/unzip) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::INFO::nice binary... found (/usr/bin/nice) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,818::INFO::ionice binary... found (/usr/bin/ionice) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,819::INFO::pyOpenSSL... found (True) 2009-09-24 00:12:34,819::INFO::Web dir is /usr/share/sabnzbdplus/interfaces/Default 2009-09-24 00:12:34,874::INFO::Starting sabnzbdplus-0.4.11 2009-09-24 00:12:34,875::INFO::Starting web-interface on localhost:8080 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO Server parameters: 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.environment: production 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.log_to_screen: True 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.log_file: /root/.sabnzbd/logs/cherrypy.log 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.log_tracebacks: True 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.log_request_headers: False 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.protocol_version: HTTP/1.0 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.socket_host: localhost 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.socket_port: 8080 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.socket_file: 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.reverse_dns: False 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.socket_queue_size: 5 24/Sep/2009:00:12:34 CONFIG INFO server.thread_pool: 10 2009-09-24 00:12:34,914::INFO::[nzbqueue] Saving queue 2009-09-24 00:12:35,010::INFO::[sabnzbd] Saving data for queue7.sab in /root/.sabnzbd/cache/queue7.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:35,010::INFO::[sabnzbd] Saving data for bytes7.sab in /root/.sabnzbd/cache/bytes7.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:35,010::INFO::[sabnzbd] Saving data for rss_data.sab in /root/.sabnzbd/cache/rss_data.sab 2009-09-24 00:12:35,009::INFO::[sabnzbd.misc] URLGrabber starting up Exception in thread CPHTTPServer Thread-7: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.5/threading.py", line 486, in __bootstrap_inner self.run() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/threading.py", line 446, in run self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/cherrypy/_cpserver.py", line 114, in _start_http self.httpserver.start() File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/cherrypy/_cpwsgiserver.py", line 312, in start worker.start() File "/usr/lib/python2.5/threading.py", line 440, in start _start_new_thread(self.__bootstrap, ()) error: can't start new thread
This is the error. I've got access to the hyperVM panel now, ram gets fully used after the command "sabnzbdplus":/
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09-23-2009, 05:46 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Ok just to play around with this I installed this on one of my 128MB VPS and I pretty much got the same error. My memory use jumped from 18mb to 132mb. Guess this doesn't like burst ram.
Had the memory increased to 256MB on this VPS and doing that it seems like it needs at least 154MB of dedicated ram to run.
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09-23-2009, 05:57 PM #11Newbie
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Thanks for testing! I think I'm gonna cancel my vps, it's getting to expensive for what I wanted to use it.
That's a lot of ram for something like that, imo:/
There are people running it on a NAS with 400 mhz cpu and 128mb ram (forums.sabnzbd.org/index.php?topic=279.msg822#msg822), I don't get it :/
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09-23-2009, 06:27 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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You are not going to be running a remotely accessible GUI of any kind of 128MB.
128MB can be used to do a lot of things - you can easily host multiple wordpress sites in 128 or less. Some things just don't like such tiny resources, unfortunately
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09-23-2009, 06:45 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Leviathanw
Not sure what your budget is but there are a number of very inexpensive budget VPS providers out there. I'm currently using Ramhost.us and they have been really solid so far. A 192mb VPS is $8/mo and that should run that app fine. They also do custom VPS configs.
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09-23-2009, 07:07 PM #14Newbie
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Damn, that's cheap
I've paid 20 usd for a month now, but I did get unlimited traffic.
If I understand it well: you can reload your vps with whatever os you want yourself? I might try them.
I'm not sure if I may ask this here, but do they make a problem of warez?
Anyway, thanks for the hint, I've been searching a bit, and there are many cheaper providers, but with trafficlimits. But that shouldn't be too much of a problem, I think.
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09-23-2009, 07:11 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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are you looking for a vps to download warez on?
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09-23-2009, 07:16 PM #16Newbie
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Something like that, and maybe adding a blog.
But I'm not sure if that can be discussed here.
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09-23-2009, 07:19 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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warez is a no no for just about every VPS provider in the states (most don't even allow linking) so if that's what you're looking to do then they will not be an option for you. You can talk about it but I doubt you'll find a host that allows that unless you go off-shore.
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09-23-2009, 07:23 PM #18Newbie
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And just for the downloading purpose? I want to download through usenet, and reupload those files as soon as they are downloaded. Afterwards, they get deleted from the vps.
I don't know if that would cause any problems. maybe I should try it out, they have a 14 day trial.
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09-23-2009, 07:33 PM #19Total Nerd
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You can run a webserver with 128MB of RAM fine, here's the tests I ran on my VPS with 64MB of RAM (128MB swap):
PHP Code:processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 15
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz
stepping : 11
cpu MHz : 2400.084
cache size : 4096 KB
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 15
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz
stepping : 11
cpu MHz : 2400.084
cache size : 4096 KB
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 64 53 10 0 1 15
-/+ buffers/cache: 36 27
Swap: 127 9 118
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/simfs 5.0G 1.4G 3.4G 29% /
/dev 32M 0 32M 0% /dev
none 32M 0 32M 0% /dev/shm
Linux version 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5xen (mockbuild@builder10.centos.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-44)) #1 SMP Tue Aug 4 20:51:12 EDT 2009
PHP Code:==============================================================
BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht.2)
System -- Linux tset.jweb2.com 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5xen #1 SMP Tue Aug 4 20:51:12 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
/dev/simfs 5160576 1378500 3519932 29% /
Start Benchmark Run: Fri Aug 28 07:51:30 PDT 2009
07:51:30 up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 0.50, 0.17, 0.05
End Benchmark Run: Fri Aug 28 08:02:07 PDT 2009
08:02:07 up 12 min, 1 user, load average: 14.20, 6.38, 2.88
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 11690762.8 310.3
Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1171.6 141.0
Execl Throughput 188.3 2894.8 153.7
File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 105561.0 395.1
File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 27465.0 255.0
File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 673536.0 437.9
Pipe Throughput 111814.6 631205.0 56.5
Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 174810.0 113.2
Process Creation 569.3 6050.7 106.3
Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 865.3 193.1
System Call Overhead 114433.5 542460.6 47.4
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FINAL SCORE 160.7
PHP Code:** SIEGE 2.69
** Preparing 25 concurrent users for battle.
The server is now under siege...
...
Lifting the server siege... done.
Transactions: 2870 hits
Availability: 100.00 %
Elapsed time: 59.15 secs
Data transferred: 13.80 MB
Response time: 0.00 secs
Transaction rate: 48.52 trans/sec
Throughput: 0.23 MB/sec
Concurrency: 0.17
Successful transactions: 0
Failed transactions: 0
Longest transaction: 5.05
Shortest transaction: 0.00
PHP Code:** SIEGE 2.69
** Preparing 50 concurrent users for battle.
The server is now under siege...
...
Lifting the server siege... done.
Transactions: 5673 hits
Availability: 100.00 %
Elapsed time: 59.92 secs
Data transferred: 27.28 MB
Response time: 0.02 secs
Transaction rate: 94.68 trans/sec
Throughput: 0.46 MB/sec
Concurrency: 1.55
Successful transactions: 0
Failed transactions: 0
Longest transaction: 2.22
Shortest transaction: 0.00
PHP Code:** SIEGE 2.69
** Preparing 100 concurrent users for battle.
The server is now under siege...
...
Lifting the server siege... done.
Transactions: 11958 hits
Availability: 100.00 %
Elapsed time: 60.02 secs
Data transferred: 57.51 MB
Response time: 0.00 secs
Transaction rate: 199.23 trans/sec
Throughput: 0.96 MB/sec
Concurrency: 0.19
Successful transactions: 0
Failed transactions: 0
Longest transaction: 0.04
Shortest transaction: 0.00
PHP Code:** SIEGE 2.69
** Preparing 200 concurrent users for battle.
The server is now under siege...
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Lifting the server siege... done.
Transactions: 8251 hits
Availability: 100.00 %
Elapsed time: 29.50 secs
Data transferred: 39.68 MB
Response time: 0.21 secs
Transaction rate: 279.69 trans/sec
Throughput: 1.35 MB/sec
Concurrency: 59.80
Successful transactions: 0
Failed transactions: 0
Longest transaction: 9.19
Shortest transaction: 0.00
PHP Code:** SIEGE 2.69
** Preparing 400 concurrent users for battle.
The server is now under siege...
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Lifting the server siege... done.
Transactions: 996 hits
Availability: 100.00 %
Elapsed time: 36.23 secs
Data transferred: 4.79 MB
Response time: 4.72 secs
Transaction rate: 27.49 trans/sec
Throughput: 0.13 MB/sec
Concurrency: 129.69
Successful transactions: 0
Failed transactions: 0
Longest transaction: 32.01
Shortest transaction: 0.00
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09-23-2009, 07:35 PM #20Newbie
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Well, you probably can, but the webserver isn't the main concern: I want sabnzbd to run :p
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Well, they do allow rapidleech and seedboxes, only no illegal files:p
Anyway, we'll see. I've contacted some other hosts that look interesting.
Thanks for the info.
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09-23-2009, 07:49 PM #23Total Nerd
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Sorry, I didn't read the thread completely. I expected the thread subject to be remotely close to the thread topic.
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09-23-2009, 07:51 PM #24Newbie
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Hehe, I should have put "(I want)" after "ANYTHING" in the topictitle:p
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09-23-2009, 09:51 PM #25Newbie
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My 32mb vps running as an MTA (for research purpose) can handle 20000+ incoming SMTP connections in one day, so a vps with 128mb should be capable of doing even more.
But the virtualization technology used will make a difference. I believe that you can do more with Xen than OpenVZ, because you can utilize swap space under Xen, though possibly at lower performance level.
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