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Old 09-17-2009, 05:35 PM
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Review: HostLatch.net [Scammer, Fraud, Worst web hosting provider]

Hi WHT members,

I had just experienced worst web hosting provider ever.

It's HostLatch.net .

I got free review master reseller account from them few months ago on Digital point forum. Had frequent downtime every month. but i didn't care that much and not complained about that. just 2 week ago i created a cpanel hosting account for my blog site with just 1 post in it and 1 plugin (All in one seo). the site was running fine. just 3-4 days ago the site got suspended by root. reason written "High CPU usage"

I was like.. how in the world a simple wordpress blog with just one post and one plugin can make a server cpu high. later i opened a ticket on there whmcs. the tech staff told me " I've unsuspended you, but if you cause high CPU usage again, you won't be unsuspended. "

ok fine. i was sure this can't be true that my blog site can make the cpu high. i have hosted with many provider before i had no issue like this before. atleast with a wordpress blog site with one post in it.

just after one day i got suspended again. reason written " High CPU Usage"

i replied to the ticket again about the issue. the admin Adam's reply was this:

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Oh, it won't be unsuspended again, it caused the server to crash 3 times yesterday morning.

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thn i asked them what kind of server do u use that make ur server crash with a simple wordpress blog with one post. i said that i think u are making some mistake with it. i also asked to give backup of my site with db so i will move my blog to my vps.

later i got replied with a screenshot that it was causing cpu high load and told me that they wont give me the backup of my site.

Later i asked them again to give backup of my site.

They just simple invoiced me $10 as a fee to get the backup.

I was like WTF. i thn replied them how in the world you can blackmail like that. You guys dont have any legal rights to keep my site files, this is totally a scam.

they replied me with non sense reason:
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Considering you have a FREE account with us, and caused us 4 hours of global downtime, you won't be given the backup for free.
first they told me it was causing high cpu and now they are giving me reason that it caused 4 hr to downtime.

i then replied with this:
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i got the account free for review on your thread on dp when u first started your company and i did gave positive review but i was wrong and u guys are blackmailing me with such stupid reason. there was no term written that getting a backup would cost me $10. i was the first client of yours and you guys just showed you real face. i will not let you go like this. i want my backup asap
reply i got is : No can do

i told them that either give a backup of my site file or i will take legal actions against there company.

HostLatch.net is the worst hosting provider i have been with. they will simply suspend you and wont give your site files. they are such a scammer and a fraud web hoster.

I just hate them i lost my blog site files which was my very hard work. I have spent nights on design of that blog. now i lost every thing my site, my traffic, my google index.

I have seen them providing vps and hosting account on DP and WHT. I will suggest not to host with them. they will show there real face after few weeks. They are simple Scammer, Fraud and worst hosting provider with a lot of downtime. just check there site design http://hostlatch.net looks like a 15 year old kid designed it with incomplete links. again Think one more time before hosting with them.

Guys Please suggest me what legal steps i can take against them on my issue. should i file a case on IC3.gov (FBI) or just get a lawyer (My friend is a trainee lawyer)???

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Old 09-17-2009, 05:52 PM
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Yeah, no point in taking legal action when you aren't likely to get anything out of it.

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Old 09-17-2009, 05:57 PM
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That's a lot of WHOIS history.

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Registrant Search: "Adam Jack" owns about 3 other domains
Registrar History: 1 registrar
NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 0 year.
IP History: 6 changes on 7 unique name servers over 0 years.
Whois History: 147 records have been archived since 2009-03-14.
Reverse IP: 1 other site is hosted on this server.

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Old 09-17-2009, 05:59 PM
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but there should be a way to get my site files. i still have the master reseller account access. but i can't unsuspend the domain as i get error message : the domain is locked by root.

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Old 09-17-2009, 06:26 PM
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After their impossibly awesome VPS special they had on DP, I've been waiting for this to happen. Sorry it had to be you. Just a general observation, it seems like DigitalPoint is a bad place to go if you are looking for reliable hosting.

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:16 PM
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I got reply from them:

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We don't have your files anymore, they are gone.

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this is totally ****. What should i do now..... i am very angry at the moment. i feel like kicking his ass as much harder as i can.

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:40 PM
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techlacky, there's really nothing you can do. Because there is not a large amount of money in play here, any legal action you take using a lawyer will end up costing you a lot of money - which you will not recoup. I would just learn the lesson and move on. You've warned the Web community, which is about all that can be done. Oh, I'd post your review on DP, too, if you haven't already!

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:40 PM
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After their impossibly awesome VPS special they had on DP, I've been waiting for this to happen. Sorry it had to be you. Just a general observation, it seems like DigitalPoint is a bad place to go if you are looking for reliable hosting.
I saw this coming a mile away.

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:47 PM
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techlacky, there's really nothing you can do. Because there is not a large amount of money in play here, any legal action you take using a lawyer will end up costing you a lot of money - which you will not recoup. I would just learn the lesson and move on. You've warned the Web community, which is about all that can be done. Oh, I'd post your review on DP, too, if you haven't already!
Nope i haven't posted on dp yet. would be very happy if you post it.

i am totally out of my mind now. my forum site which was under my master reseller was also got suspended. reason: high cpu load.

i am sure they are playing with me just to get some $$ for me. such a looser. shehhh

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:59 PM
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master reseller
That would be part of the issue "Master Reseller", If you require Reseller Hosting why not just get a general service rather than something that is offering you "Unlimited"?

Obviously they are overselling!

Did Hostlatch give you anymore information on what was causing the HIGH CPU, Generally a host will work with the client to resolve the issue or fix a script etc if it is out of date etc.


Let me just say they are a very novice company:
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WEB HOSTING TOS (Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Master Reseller Hosting)

Everything you do with our services must be legal within the USA laws.

THE FOLLOWING ARE NOT ALLOWED:

Streaming video or audio

Fraud websites

Phishing websites

Spamming

Gambling Websites

Nulled Scripts

File Hosting Sites

File Hosting

CGI Proxies (Non-CGI proxies such as Glype, Phproxy, and Zelune are allowed)

Image Hosting
IRC

Warez Hosting or storage (even if it is for private use, it is not allowed.)

Warez Linking

Child Porn (under 18)

Download and upload scripts such as rapidleech, rapidshare premium link generator, torrentflux, etc.

Limits:
- The CPU usage of your account may not use over 20%
- The Memory usage of your account may not use over 15%

NOTICE: IF YOUR ACCOUNT IS FOUND TO CONTAIN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, ILLEGAL MP3 FILES, PIRATED SOFTWARE, HACKER PROGRAMS, WAREZ PROGRAMS, OR ANY OTHER ILLEGAL FILES, YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE TERMINATED IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT NOTICE.

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Old 09-17-2009, 10:03 PM
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edit: right when I post, he posts. lol

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Old 09-17-2009, 10:05 PM
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Hello WHT, I'd like to show our side of the story.


The user, techwacky had been suspended numerous times for high CPU usage. On the 14th we notified him that he needed to watch his CPU usage, and if he were caught again, we wouldn't unsuspend him. Eventually, there's a point, where you can't just keep suspending and unsuspending. We just terminated him, after he caused a total global outage due to his site. The $10 fee was a fee that we charge to get backups from our backup server. (We unsuspend for free the first time, or sometimes even the second time)
Once he threatened legal action - all negotiations need to go through our lawyer. Feel free to have your lawyers contact ours, as we'd be more than willing to cooperate.

By the way, you've said you used All-in-one SEO pack which does use a lot of CPU if using the default settings with wordpress and the plugins.
This is the 2nd time this has happened with your domain.
Considering we allow 20% on a quad core, which is a lot of CPU usage and you broke our terms of service by continuously using 65% to 375%.
This might be due that he pushes terabytes upon terabytes, upon terabytes of bandwidth - no we didn't suspend him because of that we have an unmetered lines but maybe with that many people on his site it might cause the huge amount of CPU usage.


If the customer gives us the permission, we will be more than happy to show a screenshot of proof that his domain was abusing resources.

We are not scammers, we aren't fraud, and we are not the worst hosting company. We've been in the business to the public for about 7 months and we are here to stay.

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That's a lot of WHOIS history.
I didn't change the whois that many times, maybe it is a bug with my domain registrar, I only changed it 2 times (Phone number change)

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After their impossibly awesome VPS special they had on DP, I've been waiting for this to happen. Sorry it had to be you. Just a general observation, it seems like DigitalPoint is a bad place to go if you are looking for reliable hosting.
He has a FREE master reseller from us when we were having a special, our VPS's are totally different and they can utilize more CPU. He was using all-in-one SEO pack for wordpress which uses a lot of CPU unless you optimize wordpress and/or the plugin.

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I saw this coming a mile away.
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techlacky, there's really nothing you can do. Because there is not a large amount of money in play here, any legal action you take using a lawyer will end up costing you a lot of money - which you will not recoup. I would just learn the lesson and move on. You've warned the Web community, which is about all that can be done. Oh, I'd post your review on DP, too, if you haven't already!
Considering that both of you are shared hosting providers as well, what would you do if a customer was using 65-375% of your server's CPU that other customer's share as well?

I'm pretty sure you would suspend them too.

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Old 09-17-2009, 10:27 PM
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oh look who's here its the fraud web hoster " HostLatch.net ". hurraayy.

at last you came here to prove your self innocent. i know that you will come.

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The user, techwacky had been suspended numerous times for high CPU usage.
Oh really... why are you telling lie man. you suspended my blog total 2 time. and yah why are a faking that you terminated my site at first. it was on my whm on list of suspended account. you could have unsuspended it or just give me a backup of it. you just terminated the account today, just few hours ago.

i think there are lot of wordpress blog user who knows that a all in one seo plugin can't make a site high cpu usage. you thought we are babies that we dont know anythinng about wordpress.

i can't believe you guys can fake that much.

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Old 09-17-2009, 10:37 PM
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Oh really... why are you telling lie man.
We are not lying.

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you suspended my blog total 2 time.
Correct.

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and yah why are a faking that you terminated my site at first. it was on my whm on list of suspended account. you could have unsuspended it or just give me a backup of it. you just terminated the account today, just few hours ago.
I don't quite understand you, but we terminated you after you threatened us.

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i think there are lot of wordpress blog user who knows that a all in one seo plugin can't make a site high cpu usage. you thought we are babies that we dont know anythinng about wordpress.
Do we have your permission to post a screenshot of your abusive CPU usage?
Wordpress plugins alone can use a lot of CPU usage, depending on the plugin.

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i can't believe you guys can fake that much.
We have not faked anything.

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Old 09-18-2009, 01:58 AM
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Lol, at HL-Adam...

Your attitude is going to get your hosting company nowhere.

You know, the best way is to be nice or don't talk at all, your giving yourself a worst reputation i will ever know, even if u didn't post here.

Thanks for Review! And a head's up on another scamming site!

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