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    * Bluehost blocking outgoing traffic with Dedicated IP

    I prefer to write here than on Bluehost's own forum, I just want to vent a bit.

    I wrote some scripts that check streaming provider service ports, and found out that bluehost, my server provider of 4 years, is blocking all outgoing traffic from the server.

    I talked to support and they said if I buy an additional Dedicated IP, this limit will be raised. I said yay, got them to charge me $30.

    Next day I found that nothing has changed. When asking support, I was told that opening outgoing ports is a security vulnerability, and I need to send in a request for each and every port I want opened, I can not have all outgoing ports opened, there is a limit to the ports they are willing to open, and support has no idea what the limit is, and no, there is no TOS covering Dedicated IP.

    This sucks Time to go wrangle the billing dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concrete View Post
    I prefer to write here than on Bluehost's own forum, I just want to vent a bit.

    I wrote some scripts that check streaming provider service ports, and found out that bluehost, my server provider of 4 years, is blocking all outgoing traffic from the server.

    I talked to support and they said if I buy an additional Dedicated IP, this limit will be raised. I said yay, got them to charge me $30.

    Next day I found that nothing has changed. When asking support, I was told that opening outgoing ports is a security vulnerability, and I need to send in a request for each and every port I want opened, I can not have all outgoing ports opened, there is a limit to the ports they are willing to open, and support has no idea what the limit is, and no, there is no TOS covering Dedicated IP.

    This sucks Time to go wrangle the billing dept.
    ya most of the host wont allow to open all port

    btw you should ask this question to support before buying the dedicated ips
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    Wow, that sucks, I would go find a host that will open the ports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yajur View Post
    ya most of the host wont allow to open all port

    btw you should ask this question to support before buying the dedicated ips
    I did. They said yes. That's why I'm pissed.

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    Why would you need to open a load of ports? If you're checking a streaming server then surely you'll just need to check the port that it's streaming from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concrete View Post
    I did. They said yes. That's why I'm pissed.
    Likely the person who answered your question really didn't know what they were talking about and this is often what happens when somebody who doesn't know better defaults to "yes, you can do that" instead of "no, you can't" or "I'm not sure".

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_EZPZ View Post
    Why would you need to open a load of ports? If you're checking a streaming server then surely you'll just need to check the port that it's streaming from?
    When you figure out how to connect *out* on port 21, 80, or 441 and *in* on some other port on another server in a single TCP/IP connection you let me know Dan! *heckles Dan*.

    Any time I've wanted to connect in on a specific port on another server/computer I've always had to have that *outgoing* port on the sending computer open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    When you figure out how to connect *out* on port 21, 80, or 441 and *in* on some other port on another server in a single TCP/IP connection you let me know Dan! *heckles Dan*.

    Any time I've wanted to connect in on a specific port on another server/computer I've always had to have that *outgoing* port on the sending computer open.
    *slap*

    Yeah I know, but the OP gave me the impression he wanted a load of ports opened. If he wants to check port 8000 for example, he'll only need that one opened right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_EZPZ View Post
    *slap*

    Yeah I know, but the OP gave me the impression he wanted a load of ports opened. If he wants to check port 8000 for example, he'll only need that one opened right?
    The answer is it depends on the terminology being used by the host and the op.

    A workable rule ought to be:

    allow outbound connections to destination port X from any source port at the address Y.

    The return traffic uses the rule allow inbound for established tcp connections.

    This is generally the case for most tcp based client traffic.

    I would count that as 1 rule/destination port. Someone else might count it is as all ports.

    The workaround, is for the client to bind to a specific port, but this is not the general case for most client software. It can be done, but most generic client software is written to allow the sockets interface to assign the port.

    UPP? Then, all bets are off unless the client port is fixed. We already know that the server port is fixed. At least in most well known streaming protocols.

    Still, I can't see where hosts should be limiting the use of any port whatsoever. It is the client who should be responsible for responsible and secure usage of tne network. This would certainly be the case in colocation.
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