So i joined about a week ago and been ever since trying to find a VPS to call my home as once I make this decision I really would not like to move.
I just wanna make sure for my-self I finally got through all the nonsense.
All I want is a shared-web host style VPS so i can run my .pl to monitor my gameserver stats for hlstatsxe
I also want to be able to set-up my website utilizing modx (mysql/php) content-managing-system
I only plan on being one website, two at the very most
Cpanel, directadmin, all these are for people that plan on reselling or hosting other users as well it looks like.
I was thinking that I can just use webmin which is free and looks easy to install (say that now) and go with an unmanaged VPS. Everything else just seems overkill or stuff I am paying for and do not even need. I cant use any of my 4 web-shared account I have with dreamhost/powweb/1and1 because none of them allow the following to occur
"hlstats.pl is a background
daemon that tries to bind to a particular port on the shared server."
So really for myself, I am okay to assume that an unmanaged webmin combo is suitable for me? (yes this is a question) It would provide the panel style i am use to with web shared servers as well as not having to pay an extra fee a month for cpanel which is more for several domains or hosting plans. Every dollar I can save is great as i am also covering gameservers, hoping to purchase a vbulletin license prolly from this forum as I saw some for sale (that's for another topic).
I am sorry if I am constantly seeking information but dammit I am going to say it here. Every single website that declared everything in clear easy to follow font. Had no small print BS with their "managed" solutions were the ones that average 25 a month for ~384~mb 500gig 40gig set-up.
Every site I want to do the cheapie wanna be oversold VPS has several nice big bright bold slogans and sales pitches and then you find yourself with small print. I am not knocking the lesser companies, you obviously have to cut corners somewhere. I am also finding myself already knowing alot of these things it is just in a different terminology in VPS field opposed to working on a dedicated box. I keep thinking fivebean, then teamvps (definitely no, never even responded to my e-mail what is that!?) then I saw the deal with Virpus. Then I saw they had 2 levels for managed servers then I gotta check on that and all in all the level 2 does not even assist with third party scripts so it just seems useless to me. Managed servers apparently can mean multiple different things depending on which host etc.
Directspace or Virpus are my two choices as I really wish I could give my business to vzhosting.org since for 27 a month he was going to give me a 512mb, 600gb setup something along those lines with cpanel and etc. I feel like I will be going with chuck once I start phase 2 of my angrygamers site which would offer website hosting to my community then I could see myself needing Cpanel.
I choose webmin as Kloxxo apparently is the only other choice and yea what a depressing google that turned out to be.
thank you for the swift response as I was just lighting another cigarette pulling my hair out. I believe knownhost I have seen linked already but will also go ahead and take a look at the other link. Again thanks for the swift reply
*edit the websites you listed unfortunately fit into the not what I need category as it's the typical 25 dollars a month 384 ram situation I appreciate the reply but those host are useless to me I would of signed up with wiredtree, or a firmly established name such as that.
I am just looking to confirm my newly acquired knowledge.
It now seems most Managed servers now only mean, no third party support, installation of directadmin or cpanel, backups, security updates that's it.
--For Unmanaged VPS Server---
So I just want to confirm that if I wanted to take my one site angrygamers/angrygaming/angrygamer and bestgamerz.com as my two websites, to set those up I could use free webmin which looks pretty easy to use with Cent OS. Once webmin was installed it would just like if I was logging into my dreamhost or powweb account and utulizing the panel to perform desired task.
I appreciate the reply but those host are useless to me I would of signed up with wiredtree, or a firmly established name such as that.
I came off wrong in that response as it comes off blunt and rude and I apologize for that as it wasn't my intention. I understand I am buying an oversold vps, that is the only logical way a 10 or 15 dollar deal could work. My community is lack of and I have yet to even launch my site. The VPS for the first month will just be running a .pl (and html) to display my stats of the players on my gamservers. Currently this is being done for me by a friend on his vps http://stats.angrygamers.org
that's all I would require of the VPS for the first month after that or 3 or 4 weeks from now I will be releasing my website utilizing modx/mysql cms. Once my site is launched and my CMS is established and my community is growing I can see myself wanting to and needing to upgrade or transfer host. But that is down the road for now it is just important I get the stats page up as now I have to ask my friend to restart it everytime I add a gameserver and I have 8 being added soon (l4d2 CoD MW2). I also feel virpus would be able to accomodate for growth down the road as well. But I wanna focus on for now just making sure that I have grasped the concept when i go to get my vps from virpus and i want to get mysql dataases rolling and all webadmin can host my angrygamers/gaming/gamer + bestgamerz addresses. And that I am correct to assume webmin would be better then kloxxo (klaxxo?) it's 4am so I am gonna call it a night appreciate the feedback and again apologize its 4am and i gotta be up in 4.5 hours so please understand I apologize for the double postings each time I was editing the responses I took to long apparently and missed my oppurtunity.
I can assure you that the providers mentioned by Orien are top - notch. Your other option would be a "semi - dedicated" plan, whereby it's a ultra low client - server ratio on a typical cPanel environment.
The only provider I can recall right now that provides this is MDDHosting. If you go the Semi - Dedicated route, remember to askif they will support the script.
I have no doubt they are top notch, top notch is something I do not need at the moment. I guess I will just do what I always do pinch the nose squeeze the eyes and dive in.
I was just making sure I understood everything from all my research.
This usually means they will install cpanel or directadmin, but not assist in anything else, forum wise, site wise, etc. They will perform OS updates and perform back-ups. So really to managed just sounds like if you have never seen linux before or just completely non-computer savvy and have an active site managed would be for you.
Unmanaged just means you gotta maintain it like you do your own PC. Everyonce in awhile you have to run updates, do your own backups etc etc.
Learning the vps terminology was the biggest issue and why I was doing something different then I usually do which is try to confirm my understanding. As I saw so many people get hung up on cpanel and directadmin I realized 75% of you guys are resellers, hosters, or along those lines. Where I am just a two website person looking to have port access to run his .pls since web shared servers wont allow it. That is why I was so glad to find webmin well I find kloxxo first and then I found webmin. It would appear webmin has less vulnerabilties but as with all free software it's only takes time.
I also got worried about the managed vs unmanaged and the typical response "if you have to ask then you should go manage" this isn't true at all, as a older computer user I just needed to research and figure out just what all it really meant. Problem is now there is no real clarification for managed and unmanaged it now depends on a site by site basis. But ultimately it's not what you would think managed meant, third party support, etc etc. I am not upset by any means but I am glad I did my reading as it would of been a complete waste of money to go managed route.
Then I realized you are reading too much into some of this stuff, don't make it so hard. So I realized once I have webmin installed then it really is just as if you were operating on a webshared server infact that's how you run a web-business you buy the dedicated, you get the cpanel, you maybe use some openvz or xen and yadda yadda. So i was happy to finally understand I was making stuff too hard, reading too much into stuff and that all I really needed was just to setup webmin and I am back into my old style of things.
thank ya what I figured was go with a cheaper host get use to the vps scene, get my set-up and then start working on my community as soon as it showed signs of health i would then need to pay the 25-27 a month fee and get a solid VPS knownhost, wiredtree, which I have no problems with. I just did not wanna buy a lexus when all I needed was a toyota.