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    Reseller or Dedicated Server

    Currently we are operating as a reseller.

    Soon, we will need to upgrade ourself to the next plan from our current provider again.

    Now that the questions are:

    1. Should I use another reseller account, i.e. getting from another host by not putting all eggs in a basket

    or

    2. Should we get our own dedicator server or VDS?

    Any advise?
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    Hiya Addvalue

    Is you are generating enough revenue from your current reseller package such that you can support a dedicated server, then i must advice you to go for Dedicated

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    We are currently using 3GB Space and 45GB Bandwidth only.
    Thought that if we are upgrading, it will be 4GB and 60GB respectively.

    Most Dedicated server are too big for us...thought of getting a VDS. Is there any different?

    But we still wish to signup the lowest plan with our current provider. So that we could solve any technical problems when we are unable to solved.

    What about SEMI-DEDICATED SERVER? What is the different between VDS and SDS?

    [So long it is not AIDS ]
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    How much are you paying for reseller a month right now? If it's cheap, then maybe you should move up a plan instead of moving to a dedicated server. Dedicated servers are usually around $99.

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    We paying $40.00/per month, but if we upgrade, then it will be $50/per month.

    Is there a different of Virtual Dedi-Server and Semi-Dedi Server?

    I remember there is a post but no idea is in WHT forum. Stating that Virtual Dedi-Server can be customise to what we want.

    If we could get the same bandwidth and slightly higher pricing, than we don't mind going for VDS or SDS.

    Of course, if we could get a dedicated server, that will be better. All our customers will be in one box only without sharing with other reseller. I am sure our clients will be happy for that.
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    HIya Addvalue

    I have seen some VDS prices and its around the same as normal reseller packages with almost the same specifications.

    Check here for Virtual Dedicated Servers

    http://www.rosehosting.com/
    http://www.easyspace.com/services/easyvservers.html
    http://www.liquidweb.com/order/

    Check here for " What is VDS"
    http://jumpline.com/hosting_vds.shtml




    Check here for "Semi-Dedicated Servers

    http://www.globalinternet.net/hostin...ated/index.php
    http://www.powerhoster.com/server.html
    http://www.alohahosts.com/dedicated.shtml
    http://www.activehost.com/services/s...ed-servers.asp

    Hope this helps

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    Originally posted by LiNuX
    What would you think of <removed>?
    Thanks LiNux, but we are not familiar with ENSIM, only one of our guy ever use it and not the rest of them.

    Before, we sign up with our current provider, we search for quite a number of Hosting provider.

    Those who offer ENSIM are always far better in pricing that those who offer WHT/CPANEL. However, we are currently using CPANEL and many of our enquiries are particularly requesting for CPANEL as well.

    Your price is really attractive, no doubts!

    We did spend our time on the market demand, if we market with CPANEL, we will be much confident in marketing our hosting service. At least, those who are using ENISM or H-SPHERE could get used to CPANEL very soon. But if you ask them to change to ENSIM, the problem will arise.

    We will still look into that, if the feedback we get is ok. we might market both, CPANEL and ENSIM using two servers.



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    Linux,

    Thanks, we will look into it again.

    Once again, thanks for updating us!

    We will finalised mostly likely next week.

    One question, how do I transfer my clients over?

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    Farrukh,

    Thanks for the link, only visited those Semi-Dedi server provider.

    Some are very costly. Just email AlohaHost, waiting for their respond. This one seems reasonable.
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    One question, how do I transfer my clients over?
    I believe you can use SSH to transfer all your files to whereever you are moving.

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    Oh...my god!

    We do not have SSH access.

    So, our clients have transfer all the files over again??
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    Farrukh,

    What about this deal?

    20GB Disk Space, 100Gb Bandwidth using WHM/CPANEL
    Semi-Dedi Server at US$69.00

    Processor 1.3Ghz and 1 Gb Ram

    Good Deal??
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    addvalue, where is that semi-dedi plan at?

    also rosehosting are good for their VDS, i was with them since january, and change this month because i wanted to use a cheaper reseller package.

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    Hiya Addvalue

    Linux Package looks good.

    Addvalue, you might want to decrease you price a bit at your processor is 1.3. The space and bandwidth are good.just adjust your prices a bit .

    Make it around $64.65 to $84.65

    and what other services are you offering.

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    Farrukh

    My prices? No...I am not offering.

    But someone offering me!

    Linux, could you send you or PM us your details for your plan?

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    Oh alright Addvalue

    Linux's Plan sounds good. Maybe you two could come up with something

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    Linux...no website?

    Addvalue...I think we are on the same server.

    We also received a newsletter from our provider for the Semi-Dedi with same features.

    Available next week right? Have you sign?

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    Linux i think you should read the forum rules before posting prices etc about your services this is a good reason to get on the moderators bad side ( Not that they have a bad site but maybe grumpy side )

    Also addvalue i would not personly trust someone that doesnt even have a website... Think about it they have not developed a site that would help you with support, phones numbers etc.

    Yes they can offer you good deals but how do you know to trust them if they dont even have a store front (website)

    Many hosts can take pre orders before they open but the people are buying for them are taking a big risk that the business ( if you can call it that) can fail due to many factors.

    Dont always go for the cheapest option... Search WHT and find out comments what people are saying about each company you decide to use.

    Be smart because its your clients that are going to be asking for refunds if something serious happens.

    I would suggest you go with a good dedicated server. There is no point in having to keep moving your clients over every so often and during moves i hope you realise that you will lose some clients. So 2 Moves for example from reseller plan to VDS then from VDS to Dedicated servers. Thats 2 times that customers will have to update Ips etc you move there files problem after problem etc.

    One move to a dedicated server would be your best option.

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    Hello Phillip,

    We do agree with your points. In fact, we are very comfortable with our current provider. Even if we shift to VDS/SDS/DS, we will still remain the lowest plan with them. Partly we need their technical support. Just in case, we are unable to solve the problem, there is always a support behind.

    We do understand and we do have the ability to get our own dedicted server. The problem is, we can't manage as we have not into that before.

    And we are of course very concern about our clients. In fact, majority of the clients are for personal interest, small enterprises and most of all non-profit organisation [charity]. Which is what we actually aim for and provide them with the lowest price possible.

    If you take a look at our website, you could imagine how much can we actually make? Peanuts!

    So, we might either move to Semi-Dedi or Virtual-Dedi till we are
    ready for dedi. So, we just need to move our clients twice like what you mentioned.

    To be fair, a firm has to start off somewhere, when we join our current provider, they do us a good job and they do reveal to us that they have just officially started a week ago before i sign up. Of course, at the period of time, they already has their website up for more than a month.

    So, we should also give the new firm an opportunity. How do they want to perform, it is all up to them. "Once bitten twice Shy'.

    Appreciate the guidance you guys has given.
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    Hugoduke,

    Are you with bespoke too?

    I have not decided yet. Although now doubts on them, but still not sure should we put all eggs in a basket.

    Will decide next week, still discussing with the other partners.
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    I agree everyone starts from somewhere i was just under the impression that the sites were more business types and Uptime was important to making money.

    All providers should be given a chance but also its 50-50 risk factor if not more.

    As you said that the sites are not big ecommerce site but i also dont like user like LiNux Spaming his service were he should not

    Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

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    I don't think LINUX is spamming. He is merely responding to
    Add Value posting and request, isn't it?

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    Add Value did request Linux to send more information to them. But I don't quite get what he means on his last posting here.

    Anyway, I might be wrong since we don't visit this forum often.

    So, addvalue, coming up with any decision? Just post your doubts here or any other forums to get your mind set.
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    sorry
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    LiNuX since you read the rules maybe you missed the first line...

    I am not bashing you and or doing whatever. I would not personly buy from someone without a website. That is my own opinion.

    And how do i know who you are Linux? I dont and neither does anyone else with out a face ( Website ).

    Anyway The first line of the forum rules:
    We enforce a very strict policy regarding solicitation of our membership by Forum participants except in those Forum sections where advertising is expressly permitted.
    Participants may not use the forum to publish or discuss any information regarding their product or services, or future (possible) products or services, or any product or services they are, or have been, associated with. This includes, but not limit to suggesting your own services, or services of partners or family.
    Just pointing out a general rule mate, if i got the wrong idea Mods please edit my posts.

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    Ok..."face" coming monday...and...didn't see the future possibilities...

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    Not a problem mate.. When it does come out put it in the website reviews etc so we ca have a look at it?

    Just looking out for you with the Advertising thing and the tools also, i hate to come accross as a whiner

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    Oh my god! It seems that I am the one created this havoc!

    But I deeply appreciated the advise you guys extended to me.

    Let's have peace and no war!

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    You didn't create it, and the user who did has been warned.
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    I've seen reseller packages around $99/m, but what I don't get is why anyone would want a reseller package at that rate when they can get their own server for the same price and have 10x the space. Either way, you'd have to provide most of the support.

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    I have just started reading this thread and I had to jump in. Addvalue, you are actually getting people who ask you what control panel you use?

    I have owned my company for 4 years and have NEVER had anyone ask me for a specific control panel.

    We have used several over the years and are currently using Ensim.

    Has anyone ever posted an objective review of control panels? I would love to know the strengths and weaknesses of each.

    Thanks.

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    Well,

    I don't quite get what you mean Pete.

    ""Addvalue, you are actually getting people who ask you what control panel you use? ""

    Did I get people to ask me what control panel I use? I don't think so, But when LINUX first offer me, it was ENSIM which I am not comfortable with, so as my clients. At the personal level, I feel that CPANEL is much user friendly in the contrast to ENSIM. Or it might just be a habit to it. Just like LINUX and WINDOWS, they have their group of supporter and preference user.

    Besides, it is much easier for me to provide support on CPANEL to our clients since we are familiar inside out. Don't you think that it will be more efficient and professional in advising something that you are well verse in?

    There are some provider who PM us offering other panel as well, such as WEBCP with rock bottom price. But that is not what we are looking into. Besides prices and panel, we are looking into strong support as well.

    Anyway, we have already make our decision. Thanks for you guys offering us those advice. Deeply appreciated once again.

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    Sorry Moderator,

    <<MOD NOTE: He introduced his services to the thread, thus he is spamming>>
    We did not realised that you actually post this, as we return back to this thread via email notification.

    Anyway, we did not. We have sign up with other provider which we are comfortable with.

    Thanks!
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    AddValue, you wrote at one point in this discussion:

    However, we are currently using CPANEL and many of our enquiries are particularly requesting for CPANEL as well.
    I though you meant "enquiries" from customers asking for CPANEL, versus another type of panel.

    Because, as I said, i have never had anyone say, "can you use [Insert panel name here] instead of Ensim?"

    I was just confused.

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    Guess that you did not read all the thread.

    Doesn't matter, the issue is over.

    Have you used Web CP before? Any of your personal comments?
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    Well I "thought" I read the wole thread

    We use Ensim. No thoughts on Web CP.

    I dropped a thread in the main forum asking there is a site that has reviewed the different CPs out there.

    I think that would be quite useful.

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    Great!!! Good job!
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