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08-25-2009, 04:40 PM #26Web Hosting Industry Expert
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If the person was in the US Illegally then I wouldn't do business with them either way and if they were in the US Legally then I don't think it would be an issue to do business with them until they went back to Iran - at which point it would become complicated.
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08-25-2009, 04:50 PM #27Web Hosting Master
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We're lucky here as we only have to follow the UN sanctions to the letter. If the sanction doesn't specifically exclude something it's fine to provide.
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08-26-2009, 01:05 AM #28Web Hosting Guru
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facebook allows Iran citizens from iran to signup and use facebook as long as they don't use it for Commercial activities:
http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/cyberpers...tm?id=63010408
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08-26-2009, 04:37 AM #29Retired Moderator
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If I was the OP, living in the US with it's atitude towards the middle east, I wouldn't touch a customer from Iran. It just too much hassle with the potential for the feds to go knocking on his door, all for one lousy hosting customer.
Facebook has the money and staff to deal with a major legal problem, Joe Average host isn't going to have the same luxury.Last edited by SSHocker; 08-26-2009 at 04:46 AM.
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08-26-2009, 02:18 PM #30Web Hosting Master
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We just had this come up the other day, this was my response: http://twitpic.com/f3yvx
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08-26-2009, 02:46 PM #31Web Hosting Industry Expert
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Wow... It's not necessarily that individual person's fault and they don't necessarily have the power to resolve that issue so I don't know that I would have been that mean/rude and I certainly wouldn't publicly say it if I had been...
I guess that's just me though - I feel that response is a bit over-the-top...█ Michael Denney - MDDHosting.com - Proudly hosting more than 37,700 websites since 2007.
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08-26-2009, 04:13 PM #32Web Hosting Master
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Massive error bringing politics in your response. Truth is in the eye of the beholder. BTW Iran doesn't even have nukes and Israel does, so you're telling the country that does not have nukes to "put them down" and leave the country that has nukes alone. What a world we live in
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08-26-2009, 04:18 PM #33New Member
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If you are using US facilities (datacenter, equipments or any other stuff made in usa or made by a us company) you cannot make business with iran.
I sell it equipments in Romania and in the contract with the official dell representative is a paragraph like that.0
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08-26-2009, 04:35 PM #34Elite Webmaster
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I've turned down a few people that tried to get hosting from Iran..Like others have said, it's just not worth the trouble. Also, I think paypal does not allow accounts created from Iran.
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08-26-2009, 05:23 PM #35Web Hosting Master
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Not according to the treasury office.
On August 19, 1997, the President signed Executive Order 13059 clarifying
Executive Orders 12957 and 12959 and confirming that virtually all trade and
investment activities with Iran by U.S. persons, wherever located, are
prohibited.
Only U.S persons are prohibited. Additionally my provider also does not require me to turn down iranian customers.0
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08-26-2009, 05:30 PM #36Web Hosting Industry Expert
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But they were speaking of an agreement with Dell - Dell cannot directly (or indirectly) conduct business with individuals or businesses from Iran and as such they cannot do so indirectly such as through a reseller/parts house knowingly - hence the paragraph in the Dell agreement.
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08-26-2009, 06:17 PM #37Retired Moderator
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I'm not sure how that will help. Assuming that the leader is a wacko, how would you expect the average citizen act to have him removed from office? If anything, he, the citizen, is the mad man's victim as well, and shouldn't be judged too harshly.
In any case, this was a business inquiry. All that was needed was an explanation that doing business with him is illegal in your country, and end with something like "Sorry, and feel free to contact us again when this state of affairs changes."Last edited by ldcdc; 08-26-2009 at 06:21 PM.
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08-26-2009, 06:31 PM #38Junior Guru Wannabe
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I can bet the guy who respond in such harsh way is DUMB him self never bring politics into your business.
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08-26-2009, 08:14 PM #39Devil's Advocate
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rofl....
I just read that link...
The first sentence was fine...then it headed south after that.
Manners cost nothing.
I know a lot of Iranians and they seem very polite well mannered people. Funnily enough they tell me their relations back home in Iran hate the leader too but can't speak up or else they'd get lead away with their family and brutally murdered.
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08-26-2009, 08:17 PM #40Aspiring Evangelist
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Rodney Giles, isn't the brightest bulb in the box when it comes to customer service and company image.
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08-26-2009, 08:24 PM #41Devil's Advocate
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08-26-2009, 08:43 PM #42Brian King of LLAMEDOS
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I'm not like everybodyelse here, I think it's a VERY GOOD RESPONSE,
however it should have been sent from the Iranian to Rodney-E2.
And I'll second OWMs comment[s], all the Iranians I've meet in the UK have
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08-26-2009, 08:48 PM #43Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Rodney-E2 http://cdn.webhostingtalk.com/whtima...s/viewpost.gif
We just had this come up the other day, this was my response: http://twitpic.com/f3yvx
It is just like Americans are not close to China as Australia are. But that is besides the point of this thread, You need to look at that Australia pretty much follows in the spotlight of the USA and it is all we ever hear on the news lately about Iran and the USA's conflictions with one another and the same with North Korea.
I do not see where this fits in with Australia bar the barrier of allies. I am not taking crap out on Americans, But every war that America affiliates itself with we must join. So I would also imagine that Australia has conflictions with this country the same and does not allow Hosting to such countries either.
Maybe that is some searching on my behalf, But to your pretty good question I belive nothing including the technicalities of hosting are allowed to be hosting Iranian citizens good or bad in the USA.
Sorry I am not much help being a USA Citizen and not fully understanding thier Rules!
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08-27-2009, 09:55 AM #44Web Hosting Master
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Its all just fun and games! The customer (being in Iran) will never end up being a customer of ours anyhow. So I am not too worried. You gotta have fun sometimes!
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08-27-2009, 12:15 PM #45Web Hosting Industry Expert
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Honestly, I think you are acting a bit over the line here.
I was sharing the way I told someone about the embargo.
Now you say this is damaging to my image - not all, we had quite a few people crack up over this. It even made a few peoples days!Eleven2 Web Hosting - World-Wide Hosting, Done Right!
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08-27-2009, 12:22 PM #47Web Hosting Industry Expert
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As an example - if I were to walk into your store to buy some milk and you were to insult me based upon my country, ethnicity, or the leader of my country I would very much take offense to that... I didn't choose my country of origin (in most cases), I didn't choose my ethnicity, and from what I understand I wouldn't have chosen the leader of my country.
Really I feel that judging somebody for things that are not within their control (especially politics) is going way over the line.█ Michael Denney - MDDHosting.com - Proudly hosting more than 37,700 websites since 2007.
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08-27-2009, 01:23 PM #48Web Hosting Master
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I was sharing the way I told someone about the embargo.
Nobody asked you about your political thought on the pre-sale question.█ Shared Web Hosting - Reseller Hosting - Semi-Dedicated Servers - SolusVM/XEN VPS
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08-27-2009, 03:15 PM #49Brian King of LLAMEDOS
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Did he respond? I know what I would of said to you but I can't post it here because of the rules and guidelines.
I'm from a country with lots of internet fraud and I don't like how easy I get the boot before I can even finish the order although I never spammed, did anything illegal on servers or miss a single payment with the providers I work with. The providers that boot me don't know this, they just judge me based on location and tell me politely they don't want to do business with me.
Sure, I got used to this. I got used to providing all kinds of ID scans, phone receipts etc for 90% of companies I give money to and I'm not even from Irak, I'm from a better place.
Politicians don't make and enforce anti-fraud laws, they are too busy robbing the country and it's people.
It's one thing to say "Sorry, we can't work with you" and it's a totally different story to make fun and insult somebody who wanted to trust you with his business.
You think good people don't try to make a change? They are already xxxed up because of their leaders and there's nothing they can do about it. Why stick the knife?
I kicked somebody in the face for saying something similar to what you just said.
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