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  1. #1
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    Arrow Switching Dedi Host, Advice

    Well I thought I was set on a host (HiVelocity) until I discovered their 95th Percentile bandwidth policy which I personally think its outdated and unreasonable for 500GB+ plans.
    I had considered ThePlanet for their 10TB deal, but I had to wait to justified an early move, so the deal expired :x And looking at their BW offerings seems mediocre at best (750GB hmmm)
    So I'm off to looking for something else.

    I've had LayeredTech for over a year now and they've been great, no problems except the price :x
    I had signed up with them and started to pay something like $120 something, I was pretty happy since they were a fairly sized and reputable company. A couple months in, I guess the recession hit early and my server was adjusted in price to $150 something.. I still put up with it because the service and features were great. But now when most of the storm has come I figured asking for a re-adjustment was due I asked and was denied. They said I could get a new server at a lower cost, and the best I've come up with brings me to 130 something but I lose the 500GB HDD for 160GB, Proc Speed from 2.8 to 2.4Ghz and 1 GB of memory. I'm not gonna stick around for $10-15 dollars for being loyal and sticking out most of this recession.

    So I'm looking for something like this;
    LayeredTech type host, not someone reselling his server
    2.0-3.0Ghz Single Or Dual Core Proc
    at least 1024MB RAM
    160GB+ HDD, only 1
    1500GB+ BW measured in/out, none of that 95th% stuff
    cPanel+Fantastico
    For $100-115 USD, accepts PayPal

    It's not the top of the line so I think my asking specs are fair.
    Asking for a little advice from the WTH crowd.

    TIA

    PS. I tried the WTH/HostVoice quotes and I only got a couple Co.'s that I didn't recognized.

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    Hello,

    Are you looking for US or EU based server?
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    Did you look at iWeb.com?

    Just because you don't recognize the name doesn't mean its not a reliable company. But I can understand where you are coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turelio View Post
    Hello,

    Are you looking for US or EU based server?
    I would prefer US host, but if you know really reputable hosts in the EU that would be okay too. My domains do not require great latency since they don't stream anything live, just regular media files (jpg,png), web (html, php) and some archives (zip).

    Thanks for the response!

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    Hey, nothing wrong with resellers as long as they know what they are doing.

    I'd recommend to check Tranxactglobal (Gnax), Wiresix or Colo4jax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by totc View Post
    So I'm looking for something like this;
    LayeredTech type host, not someone reselling his server
    2.0-3.0Ghz Single Or Dual Core Proc
    at least 1024MB RAM
    160GB+ HDD, only 1
    1500GB+ BW measured in/out, none of that 95th% stuff
    cPanel+Fantastico
    For $100-115 USD, accepts PayPal
    I like WholeSaleInternet (my review of them) - but in all honesty for what you want just about anyone could do that.

    WII doesn't sell cpanel though - but their machines are so cheap you could easily afford to buy it from a 3rd party.

    Of course, have you checked the offers forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray929 View Post
    Did you look at iWeb.com?

    Just because you don't recognize the name doesn't mean its not a reliable company. But I can understand where you are coming from.
    I am replying to a quote of $109 for a good dedi machine, but they offered a 10Mb port and I would like a 100Mb port for those 10Mb+ bursts. So I'm waiting for their reply.

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    I would highly recommend you take a look at Tailor Made Servers, located in the premier Colo4Dallas facility. TMS have a wicked sale on at the moment, definitely within your price range:

    https://www.tailormadeservers.com/or...FER=WHTSPECIAL

    E8500 Free Cpanel
    Core2Duo E8500 (2 x 3.16GHz, 6MB L2 Cache)
    2GB DDR2 RAM
    250GB SATA-II HDD
    2000+ Gigs Bandwidth
    FREE CPanel/WHM with Fantastico
    100Mbps Port and up to 8 IPs
    Free Remote Reboot Access
    MRTG Graphs & 24/7 Monitoring
    $119/mo. + FREE Setup!

    I can't say enough good things about TMS and their network! If you do a search around here, you should find my detailed review along with a plethora of other WHT members who share the same sentiment I have!

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by totc View Post
    Well I thought I was set on a host (HiVelocity) until I discovered their 95th Percentile bandwidth policy which I personally think its outdated and unreasonable for 500GB+ plans.
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    All of our servers come with 2000, 3000 and 4000GB of monthly bandwidth. We only do 95th percentile billing for our colo customers purchasing a Gbps port for instance or unmetered servers that want burstability beyond their unmetered commitment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HivelocityGM View Post
    All of our servers come with 2000, 3000 and 4000GB of monthly bandwidth. We only do 95th percentile billing for our colo customers purchasing a Gbps port for instance or unmetered servers that want burstability beyond their unmetered commitment.
    I don't know... Your billing policy is pretty explicit..

    I figured metered servers are the rest of the ones where you don't have an un-metered port, or am I wrong?

    I'm really defensive with this, because this policy cost me over $700 USD once and I wasn't told about this until 4 or 5 months after 5-6 billing cycles went by.

    hivelocity.net/corporate-overview/billing-policy

    8.0 Bandwidth and Overages

    B. Standard Metered Servers

    On our standard server offerings, you will purchase an allotted amount of bandwidth for your server and you will be billed based on your monthly use. Hivelocity will calculate your bandwidth use each month based on your 95th percentile usage. Hivelocity will take your 95th percentile and then convert the amount to a total GB transferred for the billing period.

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    People in the US market should first figure out what bandwidth and data-transfer means by definition to avoid all the ^^ confusion.
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    You can try LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. They have Quad Cores running for 70-80 USD/m. We colocate servers in their facility and can vouch for their network/ overall uptime. If you are fine with best effort basis tech support, then they are ideal for your need.

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    What you could do is check up on a company like Burst NET, they have been doing good since last year and haven't seen any negatives in quite a while. Heck a quad for $99 is an insane deal to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ganesh-rao View Post
    People in the US market should first figure out what bandwidth and data-transfer means by definition to avoid all the ^^ confusion.
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    You can try LeaseWeb in the Netherlands. They have Quad Cores running for 70-80 USD/m. We colocate servers in their facility and can vouch for their network/ overall uptime. If you are fine with best effort basis tech support, then they are ideal for your need.
    Give me a link for that server..
    I tried to customize a server and I was hit with 19% VAT LOL that defeats the whole purpose.. It was like 35 or 40 bucks just on taxes and I'm in the USA I don't like taxes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroh View Post
    What you could do is check up on a company like Burst NET, they have been doing good since last year and haven't seen any negatives in quite a while. Heck a quad for $99 is an insane deal to consider.

    They look really "good" in prices.. Well within what I want and need. But they do have a real scary history, I'm reading a thread where it explains that they've changed their ways.. But I'm iffy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totc View Post
    I don't know... Your billing policy is pretty explicit..

    I figured metered servers are the rest of the ones where you don't have an un-metered port, or am I wrong?

    I'm really defensive with this, because this policy cost me over $700 USD once and I wasn't told about this until 4 or 5 months after 5-6 billing cycles went by.

    hivelocity.net/corporate-overview/billing-policy

    8.0 Bandwidth and Overages

    B. Standard Metered Servers

    On our standard server offerings, you will purchase an allotted amount of bandwidth for your server and you will be billed based on your monthly use. Hivelocity will calculate your bandwidth use each month based on your 95th percentile usage. Hivelocity will take your 95th percentile and then convert the amount to a total GB transferred for the billing period.
    This is wrong and has now been corrected to reflect our accurate bandwidth pricing. We must of somehow screwed up this page when we recently updated our site. Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. As stated earlier, our metered servers come with a finite amount of bandwidth and if you go over you are billed per GB, not by 95th. The 95th percentile billing would only apply if you wanted a burstable unmetered line.a Sorry for the confusion, thanks again for helping us correct our site.
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    << What you could do is check up on a company like Burst NET, they have been doing good since last year and haven't seen any negatives in quite a while. Heck a quad for $99 is an insane deal to consider. >>

    Thanks...we have been working hard to improve our services.
    Since November 2008 when all our system/network upgrades/replacements when in place, we have been rock solid!

    You're off by $20 too much on the lowest Quad Core price though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by totc View Post
    They look really "good" in prices.. Well within what I want and need. But they do have a real scary history, I'm reading a thread where it explains that they've changed their ways.. But I'm iffy.
    In 3rd QTR 2008 we hired new network engineering staff, and completely upgraded/replaced our entire network, as well as our billing/ordering system. Since that time our uptime has rivaled, or bettered, our competition---even those charging 2-3 times our prices. We even use the same network gear as many of them (Cisco 6500 Series & Cisco Guard). The Network Outages section here on WHT, as well as the general lack of complaints since that time you see here...speak for itself! For the pricing we offer, and the recent reviews, it is worth the chance...it is only a month to month contract
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    Hi,

    We have some servers on BURST network, and I can confirm that their network is very stable. I really cannot remember when we had network issue.
    There was some problems in the past, but like BurstNET mentored, their network is improved now.

    Well done guys!
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    Thanks guys, but I went with iWeb.
    This is what they offered me.

    Configuration Budget-Performance - 99.00$ USD
    Bandwidth 3000GB included, 0.25 x Additional GB. - 0.00$ USD
    Uplink 100Mbps port
    CPU Core2 Duo 2.4GHz (800MHz FSB) - Included
    RAM 2GB RAM - Included
    Hard disk 500GB SATA2 - 5.00$ USD
    APC Port APC Remote Reboot Port - Included
    KVM KVM Over IP on demand over a 24 hours period - Included
    Operating system Enterprise Linux - CentOS - Included
    Control panel cPanel/WHM Internal - Included
    cPanelOption Fantastico De Luxe+XController - 5.00$ USD
    IP addresses Up to 7 IP - Included
    Administration Managed Level 1 - Included
    Monthly fee 109.00$ USD
    Great value and great features, and just what I need. Now let's see what happens.

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    You got really good offer from them
    I wish you all the best with iWeb.
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    You should check 1and1 they sell decent servers for $50 dual core 1gb ram , 2 x 160 HD raid 1 software and 1000Gb bandwidth . You will have to buy cpanel off a reseller so in the end you only pay like $90 bucks but it's worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypedHosting View Post
    You should check 1and1 they sell decent servers for $50 dual core 1gb ram , 2 x 160 HD raid 1 software and 1000Gb bandwidth . You will have to buy cpanel off a reseller so in the end you only pay like $90 bucks but it's worth it
    I went with iWeb.com

    take a look here.. its much better than that 1and1 plan.
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...4&postcount=19

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