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    why is it important to have a back up strategy?

    Why is it necessary for web hosts to have backup strategy (back up files and accounts)? And why should I choose a host with back up strategy over a cheaper (a lot cheaper that is) that does not have a backup strategy?
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    Because if anything goes wrong with the accounts, they can back it up.

    I never rely on hosts, always backup your self.


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    I never rely on hosts, always backup your self.
    so does that mean it's better to go with the cheaper host that does not have any backup plan rather than a more expensive host with a backup strategy?
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    Well it depends who the host is, but I would personally go one with a backup plan.


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    A backup strategy of a host should backup a whole lot more as just your account, meaning they can restore everything faster as you would be able to do yourself.

    Making your own backups is fine if your site is 10MB but a whole different story when you have 10GB or larger; most clients have slow upstream connections so it would take them ages to upload the site back; while this is not a problem when you really have an emergency issue; I personally would only do this when the host really has no backup.

    So making your own backups is certainly recommended, but only for those cases your provider can not restore their backup for whatever reason.
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    I am a wary man
    so i just got into the habit to have a plan B

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    Go with a host that has a backup plan and reasonable prices. You will find that hosts that do not do backups are probably also going to have less or slower customer support in general.
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    Nothing is guaranteed. Mechanical systems fail all the time. The best hosting companies are not immune to failed hard drives. It is absolutely vital for your business to ensure that you are indeed backing up your data. From mission critical data to plain old static website html files, they still drive your business revenue along with your reputation and of course your online success. The loss of data can be disastrous and the loss of reputation and your business might be difficult to recover from.

    The best preventive measure would be to invest in a backup solution that is right for your company and your finances. This will not only protect your data, but peace of mind knowing that you have just eliminated a potential business and financial risk. Unfortunately many clients do not bother with a simple plan B, either because they are ignorant or the cost is prohibitive. And God forbid when the day comes when they do indeed need a backup they curse the hosting company for all their issues. All the webmaster forums are littered with posts complaining about hosting and dedicated server providers losing their data

    Top 4 common reasons to sign up for a data backup plan

    - A failed hard drive.
    - You request an OS reload and do not bother backing up your server hard drive.
    - You accidentally delete all your data.
    - One account of a shared hosting server causes the entire server to crash.

    Oh yes, trust me, accidents happen and files get deleted and yes you can get a dedicated server. The first reason however is out of your control. While a failed hard drive could be put down to fate, less than perfect hosting companies do contribute to the failure rate. How? By using hosting servers that are built from salvaged parts or parts way past their end of life. This increases the rate of failure by a factor of ‘X’. As a customer you do not know if your website is running on a brand new server or the server version of partzilla.

    Backup solutions vary in complexity, function and price. Ask your hosting company about all your options and select the one that best suits your needs and budget. While it may seem a bit indulgent, you will thank your lucky stars if and when something goes wrong. If you are serious about your business, you will.

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    You can't have too many layers of backups!
    A host that offers these along with you having at least one off-server backup is a solid plan for disaster recovery. I recently had a problem with a provider for my main off-server site that toasted the account. They had backups running, I had FTP backups and rsync, as well as a separate DB backup plan. The nature of the failure made their backup useless, and the FTP version also had some permission issues, but were mostly fixable. The remote DB backups saved me when it turned out the DB portion of the FTP backups were corrupted...so, you can't have too many layers of backup running.
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    When we run a Web Business, we would like to preserve our data and will be needing fast data recovery/ restoration in any disaster.

    Having backup of web files and database at your own end is good; but, you can do fast restoration of your hosting account setting, it is not possible, even if you backup all data on your end.

    Webhost uses, technologies to backup their servers > accounts > domains > FTP > database as well as Emails too. That makes them professional and they can really help you with their assistance for fast recovery/ restoration of services.

    If you are Planing to grow with your web-business, then you would be needing a webhost with backup services and fast response. Although if you are hosting a non-professional website like blogs etc. then it is fine to go for cheap hosting without backup.
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    so does that mean it's better to go with the cheaper host that does not have any backup plan rather than a more expensive host with a backup strategy?
    From the simple point of not losing your data and minimizing costs, probably so. But if minimizing downtime is also a goal, it's better if the host itself has backups (that actually work) to resort to in case a restoration is needed.
    Last edited by ldcdc; 08-05-2009 at 08:10 AM.

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    I don't think that we should put on serious discussion any option which presumes that web hosting providers do not have a back ups policy that provides copy of their customers' websites, databases, etc. Of course if you prefer to save a few bucks and to put your websites on rick, this is firm decision and you should stick to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmaine1111 View Post
    so does that mean it's better to go with the cheaper host that does not have any backup plan rather than a more expensive host with a backup strategy?
    well, I would say if you do regular backups and download them, say everyday, you could live without their backups.

    You probably will not download everyday though.

    The only problem with 'host backups' is they have a copy of your data. All personal info, database data, everything...you and your clients.

    Where does that data go? Do you really know? When you leave you just expect it to go away, but does it?

    Be careful who your host is and this should not be a problem...but think how easy it is for a scam/spam operation to just become a reseller and offer great deals with backups just to get emails, passwords, and the like from busier forum sites and the like.

    Unless you have a backup plan yourself or have sensitive data, then a backup host is good. But no matter who it is, you never know. You must assume that any data on your server could be showing up anywhere in the world over the next decade or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by programguy View Post
    well, I would say if you do regular backups and download them, say everyday, you could live without their backups.

    You probably will not download everyday though.

    The only problem with 'host backups' is they have a copy of your data. All personal info, database data, everything...you and your clients.

    Where does that data go? Do you really know? When you leave you just expect it to go away, but does it?

    Be careful who your host is and this should not be a problem...but think how easy it is for a scam/spam operation to just become a reseller and offer great deals with backups just to get emails, passwords, and the like from busier forum sites and the like.

    Unless you have a backup plan yourself or have sensitive data, then a backup host is good. But no matter who it is, you never know. You must assume that any data on your server could be showing up anywhere in the world over the next decade or so.
    Wowah bit paranoid aren't you ? if you are afraid of this you should start running your own datacenter; and not buy any services from any thirdparty. Not for hosting, but also not for anything else in life.

    And even if you do this; you still have chances to get hacked and your data exposed. I find this all a bit going to far when talking about backup strategy of a host

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    A backup strategy is great to ensure that data restoration is available for failures that occur between your manual backups. Few people remember to backup their files every day.

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    backups are definitely important. as a web host, we've seen many clients coming from other web hosts who made the mistake of not having a backup plan. Here's one common scenario:

    Client ABC gets VPS plan with WHM and CPanel from Web Host XYZ. Client ABC uses WHM's inbuilt backup feature to backup his accounts thinking that it's safe. 2 weeks later, Web Host XYZ's server harddrive crashes and all data is lost or corrupted.

    Client ABC then finds out that ALL his data, although backed up, is on a single physical harddrive. As a result, both his primary data and his backups are all gone.
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