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  1. #1
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    Selling Adult Website/Forum

    I am selling a sex advice forum that I have been running since 2002, I no longer have time for it and I have been neglecting it for quite some time. It's still active and has dedicated members. It has some articles built up and runs vBulletin and Drupal. The sale would come with the vBulletin license (Includes Blog), photopost, domain name and hosting (If desired).

    The forum statistics are:
    Topics: 22,141, Posts: 239,009, Members: 25,968

    PageRank: 3
    Income: A few hundred a month, it was making more when I put time into it.

    Stats: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8616/sstats.jpg



    Selling to the highest bidder. Forum has a lot of potential, put a lot of hard work in and just don't have time anymore.

    Message me for domain name and any other details.
    Last edited by Alex; 08-15-2009 at 09:51 AM. Reason: Requested
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  2. #2
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    I'll start to get tis going at $50.

    By the way, no end auction time specified.
    Shamil Nunhuck, - Radon Systems Limited
    VPS + Dedicated Server Hosting and Management
    vBulletin / XenForo Hosting and Services
    Server / Website Consultation

  3. #3
    Do you have a buyout price and could you pm me the forum? I would have to see if my current host can host the site.

    Regards
    sgcash

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    Could you post the usage stats (such as bandwidth / diskspace) - this will probably be of interest to others as well.
    l 201TB.com • 201TB bandwidth as standard in three USA DC’s. KVMoIP, auto reboot & OS install all included - Now available in the Netherlands!
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  5. #5
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    5062.8 / unlimited 3946.7 / unlimited

    Bandwidth for this month in MB and diskspace used on this account. The true space is already 500mb Max.

    When I was working on the site, the transfer was 20GB a month.
    Don't look for a way out.

  6. #6
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    Want to add it includes a photopost license as well.
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    When's the bidding end?
    Jacob Wall

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    If you would like to get information, or made a bid please send a PM.
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  9. #9

    * Selling Adult Sites

    Hello, The adult content business model is almost impossible to start now due to payment processing restrictions so selling may be a wise move but Adult is not like any other business - its very very difficult to work in and with because of the many restrictions (which mostly I support ) regarding adult content sites. I know this industry very well and there is most certainly a crack down on processors offering adult merchant accounts now. (mainly due to severe violations of MCC code law by some websites)

    I personally prefer to work with well established adult sites (as a broker) so this may be a big plus to include in your proposal to the buyer.


    When you sell an adult site consider the following:
    1. Price
    2. CTR volume (if you have ads) - show the numbers $$$$$$
    3. Solvency Proof on hand - most individuals interested in buying adult sites are ones interested in the residual coming in monthly without working! Its usually a competitor - use this to your advantage as well.
    4. Depending on your location - you may want to check the countries laws regarding a sale such as this one.
    5. Do you have records of age verification, there is absolutely no WAY around it. Every model on the website should be able to give a head shot along with ID in hand ( on same picture).
    6. Why are you selling it? ( Payment Processing issues? (accept cc's) gone (90 percent the battle now - finding a payment processor which luckily I have some knowledge of.

    Again this is just my advice not fact - This industry is very very complicated and should left up to industry professionals anyway to avoid issues (legal ones)


    <<snipped>> I do not mind giving out advice because I do understand the rules and laws that govern adult sites worldwide but I am not a lawyer - just broker for payment solutions worldwide.
    - Most adult sites are offshore now. There are processors out there doing it without the 3d mod in EU and will take a new merchant now but due to confidentiality reasons I will not discuss on the website

    <<snipped>>
    Last edited by bear; 08-12-2011 at 09:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adultpayments View Post
    Hello, The adult content business model is almost impossible to start now due to payment processing restrictions so selling may be a wise move but Adult is not like any other business - its very very difficult to work in and with because of the many restrictions (which mostly I support ) regarding adult content sites. I know this industry very well and there is most certainly a crack down on processors offering adult merchant accounts now. (mainly due to severe violations of MCC code law by some websites)

    I personally prefer to work with well established adult sites (as a broker) so this may be a big plus to include in your proposal to the buyer.


    When you sell an adult site consider the following:
    1. Price
    2. CTR volume (if you have ads) - show the numbers $$$$$$
    3. Solvency Proof on hand - most individuals interested in buying adult sites are ones interested in the residual coming in monthly without working! Its usually a competitor - use this to your advantage as well.
    4. Depending on your location - you may want to check the countries laws regarding a sale such as this one.
    5. Do you have records of age verification, there is absolutely no WAY around it. Every model on the website should be able to give a head shot along with ID in hand ( on same picture).
    6. Why are you selling it? ( Payment Processing issues? (accept cc's) gone (90 percent the battle now - finding a payment processor which luckily I have some knowledge of.

    Again this is just my advice not fact - This industry is very very complicated and should left up to industry professionals anyway to avoid issues (legal ones)


    <<snipped>> I do not mind giving out advice because I do understand the rules and laws that govern adult sites worldwide but I am not a lawyer - just broker for payment solutions worldwide.
    - Most adult sites are offshore now. There are processors out there doing it without the 3d mod in EU and will take a new merchant now but due to confidentiality reasons I will not discuss on the website

    <<snipped>>
    I am just curious, since I don't completely understand the laws of adult entertainment but how do websites like pornhub, redtube, etc get around not having the IDs and headshots of all models?

    In addition to that does that mean that CCBill isn't accepting anyone now?
    Last edited by bear; 08-12-2011 at 09:05 AM.
    Jacob Wall

  11. #11

    My experience, Opinion

    The adult industry consists of basically CCBILL (epassporte (maybe but they were closed for a bit), EPOCH, and netbilling really) as the major provider for the entire world. No serious competition has ever been able to really throw them off course. I ironically the reason why they are not taking a lot of new adult accounts because so many adult sites have lost processing weather in the US - Canada - EU through avalonpayments.com mcc high risk providers have nearly disappeared to the common merchant. The issue would be selling an adult site when revenue is down 30% plus percent on some sites due to places like PORNHUB and alike that offer membership services for copyrighted pornography. This is not fair to the industry due to adult content sites and the way avalonpayments.com handled it was sending the clients to places overseas or offshore. I had no problem doing this or just refer them to CCBill because there is not a lot of options out there.

    The biggest issue now is nobody feels they need to pay for any type of adult content because its free the minute someone places a new video on a sharing site. I cut the line right there with a merchants doing this business type. This is like basically destroying my clients that produce orginal content by allow these sites to exploit them. For example, avalon payemnts has a avalon advisory division that can setup a merchant direct with a bank offshore, this elminates a lot of the head ache adult merchants are having now but it is not cheap.

    I would say right now is the worst time to sell any type of adult site because the likely the hood of the new owner getting processing for visa/mc is slim to none now unless you have trusted relationships that handle adult content websites offshore.


    The 3d program is a terrible tragedy for many adult business/toy providers. This is mainly because most customers get nervous when they are redirected to their bank to recieve a code to final check out on EU processors - issuers. I think its rather funny a service created to protect people from fraud will likely destroy a whole industry if merchant do not take the wise move of find another offshore solution outside of the EU and US - it is possible and legal to do. The rules are the same in any scenario - us based - offshore based - the protocols must be followed.


    I hope this helps a little. I have plenty of opinions trust me on the subject but I felt the need to come out and discuss with fellow industry professionals the warning to find back up solutions or simply find a solution with out restrictive features before its too late.

    Thank you!

    <<snipped>>
    Last edited by bear; 08-12-2011 at 09:03 AM.

  12. #12

    Thumbs up The New CCBill.. it appears like a late start to alertpay.com

    Hey again -
    I almost forgot to let you also know it looks like ccbill is moving away from the adult image. A site that everyone knows is associated with adult sites is going to have a heck of time catching up with the likes of alertpay.com which is basically one of the best run places I have ever worked with its just they no longer take adult.
    My concern is why would CCBill want to do this now? why try to transfer to a traditional paypal or alertpay format - the name ccbill is the main issue I would think to using them as a third party biller.

    Thanx

    <<snipped>>
    Last edited by bear; 08-12-2011 at 09:03 AM.

  13. #13
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    Hey all,

    I just thought I would step in a correct the last couple of posts - the rumor that that we had either slowed taking on new high-risk merchant accounts (or managing our thousands of actively processing adult merchants), or the idea that we are moving away from what we have been doing for 12+ years - is simply not true.
    CCBill has never taken a break, and getting an adult account in the current market is still as easy as it ever has been. It is not hard to get an adult processing account via a third-party, and if you choose the right provider, there should be no upfront fees from the processor themselves.

    The last poster is right partly, that CCBill, Epoch, and NETBilling are still leaders in adult processing - but the now-defunct epassporte was simply an aggregate payout system delivering the funds from providers like these, but not a processor itself.

    If you look at any of the third-party high-risk processors, most of them provide you with a package for e-commerce - you get the merchant account, gateway, fraud protection, email marketing tools, international tools, user management software, integrated affiliate system and even 24/7 billing support for the merchant's customers - generally at an inclusive price - and without credit checks.

    What IS true is that adult sites have been hurt somewhat by tube sites and free content, but not to the extent suggested. The site owners that are smart and have adaptable business models are actually growing in adult - and utilizing the tools available with a good e-commerce partner to support that.

    Hope that helps to clear up things...

    Gary
    CCBill

  14. #14
    Hey Gary -
    Thank you for responding and clarifying this for me. The information was simply brought to my attention (I was astonished by it) - I did not think for a minute ccbill would get out of the adult business (especially after IPay) but I was confused by the information I received obviously you were moving toward more of an ewallet for all business types. I never said you were completely pulling out of the industry. My confusion comes in if you offer this service to businesses outside of adult (if this is true), do merchant's customers see ccbill on the their statement (like I have seen previously on bank statements.."ccbill phone#) , as many people do - googling it shows adult postings mostly. So this also confused me as well.
    I think I have to disagree with you on the adult sites losing business to tubes, for example in certain types of adult accounts they are losing 30% (gay adult) due to porn tubes uploading their content within minutes of activation on the website? There are ways to prevent this from happening but the amount of effort it takes to find all the sites using orginal content is mind numbing for many clients. I like the downloaded media viewers which are only usable with an active membership to orginal content sites and the program to watch the movies.
    In regards to changes in EU taking place requiring a 3d secure code from their bank to check out? Is this true? I have many many EU referrals claiming the same information - customers drop off in hoards when they are redirected to get the secure code.
    I think most adult businesses worry about the future with technology and hackers constantly outsmarting the industry.
    No one is looking to take down the king of adult processing (me)! They are still likely the best.

    <<snipped>>
    Last edited by bear; 08-12-2011 at 09:02 AM.

  15. #15
    adultpayments,

    I was going to PM you regarding some questions about your payment processing, but I'm new to the forum and I do not have PM privileges yet. Do you have another direct contact or email? I'd like to speak with you when you have a minute about some payment processing solutions. Let me know when is best for you.

    Thanks!
    RMV

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