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  1. #1
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    how much RAM webmin will consume

    Hello

    how much RAM webmin will consume, if installed with usermin Model and Apache.

    Thx

  2. #2
    Webmin takes about 11MB of RAM on a 32 bit system (20-50% more on a 64 bit system.
    But it's hard to get Apache working if RAM is below 256MB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webnine View Post
    Webmin takes about 11MB of RAM on a 32 bit system (20-50% more on a 64 bit system.
    But it's hard to get Apache working if RAM is below 256MB.
    Agreed, from my experience, webmin idles on around 230mb. With Apache/MySQL/FTP etc.. running.

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    Thanks for the information guys, I just got a $3 VPS from Buzzservers and I'm trying out webmin hope it runs fine on 256MB of RAM


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    Code:
    [root@vps:~] free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           540        504         36          0         32        374
    -/+ buffers/cache:         97        443
    Swap:          255          0        255
    
    [root@vps:~] service webmin stop
    Stopping Webmin server in /usr/libexec/webmin
    
    [root@vps:~] free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           540        500         39          0         32        374
    -/+ buffers/cache:         93        446
    Swap:          255          0        255
    
    [root@vps:~] service webmin start
    
    [root@vps:~] free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           540        505         34          0         32        375
    -/+ buffers/cache:         97        442
    Swap:          255          0        255

  6. #6
    As Sleddog showed, Webmin is pretty light. Can't comment on UserMin but..

    I've got WebMin + Apache + MySQL + PHP running in 77 MB.

    Two tweaks to reduce memory consumption:

    1) If not needed, disable innodb and berkley database by adding the following code to /etc/my.cnf in the [mysqld] section and reboot mysql

    skip-innodb
    skip-bdb


    2) Reduce Apache's memory usage by adding the following to httpd.conf

    MaxSpareServers 1
    MinSpareServers 1
    StartServers 1

    These tweaks work OK for the lightly loaded VPS I use them on but YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shad0wz View Post
    Thanks for the information guys, I just got a $3 VPS from Buzzservers and I'm trying out webmin hope it runs fine on 256MB of RAM
    uh. mind providing a link all I see is 15 dollars XD My webmin runs under 10mb though and my default mysql apache etc setup is using 300mb ram because I poorly optimized my settings, I was trying to see how bad I could break a vps before I reloaded it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autoreverse View Post
    As Sleddog showed, Webmin is pretty light. Can't comment on UserMin but..

    I've got WebMin + Apache + MySQL + PHP running in 77 MB.

    Two tweaks to reduce memory consumption:

    1) If not needed, disable innodb and berkley database by adding the following code to /etc/my.cnf in the [mysqld] section and reboot mysql

    skip-innodb
    skip-bdb


    2) Reduce Apache's memory usage by adding the following to httpd.conf

    MaxSpareServers 1
    MinSpareServers 1
    StartServers 1

    These tweaks work OK for the lightly loaded VPS I use them on but YMMV.

    I am running the same setup (appache and mysql settings are kinda different) but I am still running webmin + apache + mysql + php at around 90mb of ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkeden View Post
    uh. mind providing a link all I see is 15 dollars XD My webmin runs under 10mb though and my default mysql apache etc setup is using 300mb ram because I poorly optimized my settings, I was trying to see how bad I could break a vps before I reloaded it.
    The deal is now over.


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    a few our our backup servers/file servers run Virtualmin and that clocks in at about 170megs of ram being used.

    Oh and just as a option, i no with virtual min i could configure it where i could select certain applications such as mysql to run as either in ram or hd memory (might not have been that one exactly, but there were many options)

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    I should add to what I posted above...

    Webmin (plus Virtualmin for virtual hosting) uses perl. When you're not doing anything in Webmin/Virtualmin the only memory usage is the webmin service (a small server listening for connections).

    When you do something in Webmin/Virtualmin you run one or more perl scripts which use additional memory.

    AS a test I installed Webmin and Virtualmin on a local box with 128 MB RAM. To simulate a live environment the box was running Apache with PHP, MySQL, Postfix and Dovecot. Apache & MySQL were tuned to use low memory. Memory usage with everything running and the box idle was about 75-85 MB.

    Accessing Virtualmin and using some common functions -- like adding a new domain account -- would exhaust physical memory and cause the box to swap. Definitely not what you want.

    Then I popped in another 128 mb stick of RAM, bringing the total to 256 MB. After that I could work through all the Webmin/Virtualmin functions without any significant swapping.

    I think Webmin/Virtualmin is quite usable on 256 MB ram. BUT you need to ensure Apache & MySQL are restricted in how much memory they use. Running those services with out-of-the-box configurations can easily kill you. If your initial memory usage with all services running is around 100 MB then I think you'll be just fine.

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    free -m
    total used free shared buffers cached
    Mem: 2000 319 1680 0 0 0
    -/+ buffers/cache: 319 1680
    Swap: 0 0 0
    [~]# service webmin stop
    Stopping Webmin server in /usr/libexec/webmin
    [~]# free -m
    total used free shared buffers cached
    Mem: 2000 312 1687 0 0 0
    -/+ buffers/cache: 312 1687
    Swap: 0 0 0
    [~]# service webmin start
    [~]#

    very small footprint

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