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    SWIP Providers

    Doing some looking around and I wanted to see if we could compile a list of providers who will SWIP upon request.

    Please list any that you know. I know some SWIP all servers, some will only do it in bulk. Just looking for info.

    Thanks!
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    Hey, most providers will do it. I know that Limestone will do it, Pacific Rack do it (I think) and many others

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    I know ******* and Ubiquity do it here.

    Most all large providers that deal directly with ARIN will do it.
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    SoftLayer has a spot right in their control panel with a form and a button to initiate the SWIP yourself.
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    Most hosts can do it upon request. I don't think its advertised like that but most host will do it for you upon request.

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    Most should; I don't think BurstNET does it though. Remember I had some problems doing a SWIP request with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serverorigin View Post
    Doing some looking around and I wanted to see if we could compile a list of providers who will SWIP upon request.

    Please list any that you know. I know some SWIP all servers, some will only do it in bulk. Just looking for info.

    Thanks!
    Justify a full /24 or better and ask nicely.

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    SWIP'ing is pretty much required... Who doesn't do it?
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    I think most providers can do it if you can justify why you need it.

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    They aren't abiding by ARIN terms if they are not applying SWIP. Most providers put whatever information you give on the order for the swip as ARIN requires the real customers info.

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    << Most should; I don't think BurstNET does it though. Remember I had some problems doing a SWIP request with them. >>

    We use RWHOIS instead, automated with our backend processing systems. We may do a custom SWIP instead though, upon request, for larger IP blocks.
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    any EU provider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prajyot View Post
    any EU provider?
    Brustnet?

    NO!

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    BTW, tailormadeservers does swip

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    Quote Originally Posted by s-f-r-j View Post
    What exactly it does?

    Can somebody tell this newbie (me) what SWIP means.

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    Shared-Who-Is-Internet-Protocol SWIP in English, when someone does a lookup on the IP space it shows customer information for the sub-delegation.

    Let's say you get your IP space from AT&T, if someone looks up your IP address they will see that the IP space belongs to AT&T but that the particular address space is used by (registered to) to e.g. Billy bob @ ACME CORP.

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    Steadfast will SWIP your IPs if you request it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kris1351 View Post
    They aren't abiding by ARIN terms if they are not applying SWIP.
    Yes, however some providers can get 'around' this by assigning users IPs by the /32 with switch-based assignment versus vlan per device/customer. ARIN requires either RWHOIS or SWIP information on assignments of /29 or bigger.

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    I think trying to compile a list of SWIP friendly providers on this forum could end up in a 1000 page post. Most providers will do it, your better off listing who won't do it.

    We tried to get Burst to do it awhile ago, it wasn't for much probably a /29 or /28 and they wouldn't do it. Staminus won't do it, theres a few others that refuse to. So your probably better off putting a list of who won't do it compared to who will do it

    You can't compare most rwhois systems to swipping since Arin maintains the swip database and i've yet to see it down. It's very often that rwhois servers are down, one of our current providers utilizes rwhois and their rwhois server hasn't worked for a long time and they don't seem to want to resolve it.

    Swip provides more useful information anyhow, Softlayer was one of the first providers that im aware of that made it easy to do.

    I've had a company we spoke with tell us that Arin was looking to remove the SWIP system but other then them telling us this, I haven't seen confirmation and it looks like Arin is actively doing things to clean the system up and remove incorrect information in swips.
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    For less the a /24, I only know of Softlayer who will do it and guarantee to do it (as it is right in the control panel).

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    It is required by ARIN that all ISPs that assign IPs to downstream customers in blocks of a /29 or smaller either SWIP those IPs to said customer or assign those IPs to that customer via a publicly available RWhois system. I know we use Rwhois which is automatically propogated by Ubersmith DE (I really love this system) and from burstnet said, theirs is done on the back end as well automatically. It simplifies things and makes it so that the customer doesn't have to request those IPs be swipped.
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    I also can guarantee for SoftLayer only.

    Other providers usually SWIP request minimum /24.
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