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Old 07-22-2009, 12:13 PM
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Dedicated from Worldstream (NL) & Local ISP (Singapore) Issues


Hello all,

I have just recently gotten a dedicated server from WorldStream (http://worldstream.nl) specially for one of my sites that is serving to majority Euro visitors on the site.
However, I'm situated in Singapore hence my speed connected to the server is utterly lousy.
I had written in the WorldStream and my ISP Starhub from Singapore but my ISP seemed reluctant to help me solve this problem.

Reply from WorldStream:

Quote:
1 : We always do have 75% of our network capacity free. Even in Peak hours we do have at least 75% free. This will not be the problem.
2 : As far as i know is your webserver fast enough for your website, i don't think this will be the issue, you can check it out to have a look at your CPU usage.
3 : It's because of StarHub's transit provider which is choosing very odd route's to reach your server.
They have to change the route, we cannot do anything about it.
Reply from Starhub:

Quote:
Based on the results we received, our engineers found that there are
no latency issue within StarHub Cable Vision's Network.

We would like to share with you that as with any network, surfing and
streaming speed may be affected by a number of factors. This is
especially when you are accessing a foreign website because the
Internet is a network of networks. These factors include:

1) Peak Hour Traffic Delays
- Content-hosting servers may be overloaded during peak hours, when
the number of concurrent connections exceeds the webserver's
capacity. This might result in delays in accessing data.

2) Content Provider's System Configuration and Bandwidth allocation
- Different content-hosting webservers can provide varying end-user
experiences. For instance, webservers with high-powered CPUs and
large amounts of memory would be better equipped to handle a high
demand for content as compared with less powerful webservers,
resulting in greater end-user access speeds. Similarly, end-user
access speeds may also be affected by the content providers'
bandwidth connection to the Internet. If this bandwidth connection
or the speed of the link connecting the webserver to the Internet
and/or to Singapore is insufficient, the end-user may experience slow
access speeds, even if the local Internet service provider such as
StarHub has allocated sufficient bandwidth for this connection.

3) External Routing Delays/Congestion
- Slow connection speeds are sometimes also due to overseas routing
delays/congestion. Unfortunately, such delays are usually beyond the
control of any local service providers including StarHub.
Here's my latest traceroute results from their utilities page: h**p://utilities.starhub.com
Code:
Tracing route to 217.23.3.120 over a maximum of 30 hops


  1     9 ms     9 ms    18 ms  cm1.psi147.maxonline.com.sg [58.146.147.1]
  2     8 ms    15 ms     8 ms  172.20.31.17
  3    17 ms    13 ms     8 ms  172.26.32.1
  4    12 ms    24 ms     8 ms  172.20.7.26
  5    51 ms    13 ms    11 ms  172.20.7.70
  6    16 ms    13 ms    25 ms  203.116.250.213
  7    11 ms    23 ms    14 ms  anutsi10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.162]
  8     *      211 ms   201 ms  so-6-1-0.edge2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.71.134.21]
  9   201 ms   198 ms   197 ms  ae-43-90.car3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.197]
 10     *      212 ms   214 ms  ge-2-0-0.lax10.ip.tiscali.net [4.68.111.194]
 11     *      413 ms   364 ms  xe-2-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.186.245]
 12     *      366 ms   374 ms  caiw-diensten-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.72.134]
 13     *      362 ms   355 ms  cn-nawij-is-cr40-ten1-1.caiw.net [62.45.254.22]
 14   375 ms   374 ms     *     kf-asd-kl-cr01-atm510-7.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.63.222]
 15   353 ms   384 ms   372 ms  217.23.3.120


Trace complete.


Tracing route to 217.23.3.120 over a maximum of 30 hops


  1     6 ms    20 ms    11 ms  cm1.psi147.maxonline.com.sg [58.146.147.1]
  2     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  172.20.31.17
  3    22 ms     9 ms    13 ms  172.26.32.1
  4    11 ms    31 ms     8 ms  172.20.7.26
  5     8 ms    19 ms    11 ms  172.20.7.70
  6    18 ms    16 ms    15 ms  203.116.250.213
  7    11 ms    21 ms    11 ms  anutsi10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.162]
  8   197 ms   196 ms   209 ms  so-6-1-0.edge2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.71.134.21]
  9   216 ms   198 ms   193 ms  ae-13-60.car3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.5]
 10   234 ms     *      216 ms  ge-2-0-0.lax10.ip.tiscali.net [4.68.111.194]
 11   401 ms   366 ms     *     xe-2-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.186.245]
 12   371 ms   370 ms     *     caiw-diensten-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.72.134]
 13   364 ms   352 ms     *     cn-nawij-is-cr40-ten1-1.caiw.net [62.45.254.22]
 14   364 ms   367 ms     *     kf-asd-kl-cr01-atm510-7.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.63.222]
 15   381 ms   373 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 16   360 ms   368 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 17   358 ms   377 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 18   370 ms   368 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 19   367 ms   365 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 20   368 ms   358 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 21   365 ms   351 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 22   376 ms   372 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 23   367 ms   373 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 24   370 ms   378 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 25   370 ms   372 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 26   373 ms   386 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 27   370 ms   354 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 28   375 ms   409 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 29   388 ms   375 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 30   356 ms   359 ms     *     217.23.3.120


Trace complete.


Tracing route to 217.23.3.120 over a maximum of 30 hops


  1     9 ms    20 ms    10 ms  cm1.psi147.maxonline.com.sg [58.146.147.1]
  2     9 ms     8 ms     7 ms  172.20.31.17
  3    10 ms    19 ms     9 ms  172.26.32.1
  4    24 ms    12 ms    11 ms  172.20.7.26
  5     8 ms    11 ms    25 ms  172.20.7.70
  6    11 ms    39 ms    15 ms  203.116.250.213
  7    14 ms    14 ms    10 ms  anutsi10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.162]
  8   197 ms   196 ms   195 ms  so-6-1-0.edge2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.71.134.21]
  9   207 ms   195 ms   195 ms  ae-13-60.car3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.5]
 10   222 ms   218 ms   215 ms  ge-2-0-0.lax10.ip.tiscali.net [4.68.111.194]
 11     *      365 ms   365 ms  xe-1-0-0.ams10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.186.241]
 12   374 ms   371 ms   391 ms  caiw-diensten-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.72.134]
 13   354 ms     *      351 ms  cn-nawij-is-cr40-ten1-1.caiw.net [62.45.254.22]
 14   387 ms   365 ms     *     kf-asd-kl-cr01-atm510-7.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.63.222]
 15   364 ms   370 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 16   368 ms   367 ms     *     217.23.3.120
 17   356 ms   370 ms   359 ms  217.23.3.120


Trace complete.
Anyone here can advise what should I do? Because my pages on my site are loading slow on at my location but blazing speed for the rest of the members residing in Euro or non-affected countries.
I need to work on the site for updates and stuff, hence the slow loading pages are getting on my nerves now... All kind help will be deeply appreciated.

Thanks!

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Old 07-22-2009, 12:27 PM
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Did u know that they are broken ACPN cable connected to Malaysia, Singapore to USA right now? They will recovered 5th Aug 2009

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Old 07-22-2009, 12:29 PM
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No, I didnt know that. So, after 5th Aug, my issues will be resolved? thanks.

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:27 PM
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From Singapore to Europe there are 2 different routes. Unfortunately your packets are moving via the Pacific - very bad. I think you must find a proxy server able to access Europe via Middle East.

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:33 PM
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Just take a look at the route (and RTT) from a server I have located at QALA data center and using Singtel:

traceroute to 217.23.3.120 (217.23.3.120), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

5 ge-3-1-0-0.sngtp-ar6.ix.singtel.com (203.208.183.206) 12.685 ms 1.239 ms 1.154 ms
6 so-0-2-0-0.lonlx-cr2.ix.singtel.com (203.208.151.134) 186.957 ms 187.17ms 186.905 ms
7 ldn-s2-rou-1002.UK.eurorings.net (195.66.224.54) 344.174 ms 352.983 ms
344.090 ms
8 obl-rou-1021.NL.eurorings.net (134.222.231.173) 196.549 ms 196.382 ms
196.404 ms
9 asd2-rou-1002.NL.eurorings.net (134.222.231.202) 198.231 ms 198.105 ms
198.194 ms
10 134.222.97.2 (134.222.97.2) 217.571 ms 195.984 ms 196.088 ms
11 cn-nawij-is-cr40-ten1-1.caiw.net (62.45.254.22) 197.716 ms 197.511 ms
197.902 ms
12 kf-asd-kl-cr01-atm510-7.kabelfoon.nl (62.45.63.222) 197.575 ms 197.922 ms
197.512 ms
13 217.23.3.120 (217.23.3.120) 197.502 ms 197.299 ms 197.538 ms

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by x264-BB View Post
No, I didnt know that. So, after 5th Aug, my issues will be resolved? thanks.
The Pacific route adds at least 100ms accessing Europe. Don't expect latency less than 300ms during off-peak hours -- however it is ok to access your server.


Last edited by dotHostel; 07-22-2009 at 01:45 PM.
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