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    Question The "I need a good host" topic....

    Alright, I'm running a fairly large Forum community. There's a few requirements to the forums I'm using (IPB 3.0.x) posted below. I'd like something with unmetered *if such a thing is possible* bandwidth, but don't care about the space (So long as it can hold 5 gigs or so). Also need a database that doesn't have a limit (I think anyways, not entirely sure how this works still....perhaps someone can explain how forums use databases? meh, doesn't really matter I suppose.) Anyways, we always have at least 5 users online, and up to around a few hundred at any given time. A host that supports that kind of traffic is a must. Also must be a month-to-month plan. I don't like the 'pay up front for 12 months' thing, because I'm stuck and if I try to cancel all of the fees come up and such, just not the way I work sorry.

    Alright, so the IPB requirements for those who don't already know:

    1. PHP 5.2
    2. -GD3 Extension
    3. -SPL Extention
    4. -DOM XML Extension
    5. -JSON Extension
    6. MSQL 5.0+


    Any help appreciated!

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    Budget? That's a huge issue.

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    Anywhere from $5 to around $20 a month...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AH-Tina View Post
    Budget? That's a huge issue.

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    Yup that is true. As always, you get what you pay for, especially in the web hosting industry.
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    Well I was looking at a few sites in particular:

    iweb.com/web-hosting/compare/ -The 'all inclusive' package.
    hostmonster.com
    fatcow.com

    I was considering GoDaddy until I read several reviews, and then threw it out of the window.

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    TBH, GoDaddy is a great company, You will find that with a company of that size, alot of ppl hate them. They are like the Microsoft of the Web Hosting industry.

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    Well since you have checked on GD's review, you may want to check on the legitimate reviews of the other providers that you have listed above. Do make sure you avoid those "top 10" sites as they are normally full of affiliate links and fake reviews.
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    If your FORUM is quite large, I would avoid such hosts that offer *Unlimited* as part of their packages. I used Bluehost for a starter forum 'phpBB 2.0.12' and it ran incredibly slow and it really got to me.

    I would recommend searching for a Host that does not over-crowd their servers as this can increase your performance of your IPB Board. Do take into account that even if you do choose a Shared Account their is no guarantee that it will be fast or slow, Depends on how much CPU and Memory is being consumed by other members.

    I personally would recommend ditching Shared and moving to something where you are bound to get that little extra boost, Such as 'Semi-Dedicated' Hosting or even a VPS.
    If your site was only small then their would not be too much of a big deal, Though you must take into account that PHP scripts such as IPB do take up a bit of a resource such as vBulletin and phpBB.

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    What does it mean when its a "Virtual Private Server" I realize that these are cheaper then dedicated servers, but what exactly is the difference, and is it in my price range? The community itself is rather new, but the users I have known for a long time. We developed this community to produce free games for the PC, and for general Role-playing.

    Let me see, in the last month our statistics where:

    4gb Transfer used
    700/1000 Megs space used (500 is for IPB 3...so 200 MB used)

    And while we only have 26 users, most of those users are online quite often. So if anyone has a solution that might work for us, that'd be great.

    And I already knew the 'avoid the top ten' sites thing, I intended on that from the start.

    Also, yes I did read the Announcement topic, and used the site...without anything gained from it.

    And does anyone have feedback regarding awardspace.com ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowe View Post
    What does it mean when its a "Virtual Private Server" I realize that these are cheaper then dedicated servers, but what exactly is the difference, and is it in my price range? The community itself is rather new, but the users I have known for a long time. We developed this community to produce free games for the PC, and for general Role-playing.

    Let me see, in the last month our statistics where:

    4gb Transfer used
    700/1000 Megs space used (500 is for IPB 3...so 200 MB used)

    And while we only have 26 users, most of those users are online quite often. So if anyone has a solution that might work for us, that'd be great.

    And I already knew the 'avoid the top ten' sites thing, I intended on that from the start.

    Also, yes I did read the Announcement topic, and used the site...without anything gained from it.

    And does anyone have feedback regarding awardspace.com ?
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    The problem with that is that not many companies will offer monthly plans on a VPS, and even fewer within my price-range most likely.

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    I have and do use Knownhost on a Monthly Basis with VPS.. Have had no issues with them what-so-ever. They are sincere and their staff are pleasent and easy to understand aswell as professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowe View Post
    The problem with that is that not many companies will offer monthly plans on a VPS, and even fewer within my price-range most likely.
    I'd stay away from cheap VPS providers, you're probably better off just getting a reliable hosting package
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    http://knownhost.com/vps_packages.html

    Well I am actually looking at the $35 plan, as its affordable, even if a bit over what I was looking for. It also is a month-to-month plan, so if I don't like it after a month (30 day guarantee as well) I can simply drop it without affecting anything. Thanks for that info ATH.

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    Hello Nowe,

    Sure, No worries. Always remember that you get what you pay for. People here may refer you to Shared and VPS, Semi-Dedicated and so forth. By looking at your needs I would scale my way up from Shared to a VPS - Though can I ask, What plan are you on at the moment?

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    I'm actually hosted with the IPS Community plan for $10 a month. My aunt's getting me an IPB license for my B-day in a week or so. Their plan sucks, although the support and uptime are awesome. Lets just say this:

    1 Gig space
    5 Gigs transfer

    Just isn't enough.


    I was looking at VP2 actually from the site you suggested. Reasonable price.

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    Bit over-pricy a bit i'll admit, However, That seems to be quite fair back in the day.
    Knownhost are very good, Their uptime and support are second to none In my own personal experience and their plans seem to suit quite well with what we require.

    All in all I do hope that you do choose wisely, Research is always the best key and I am sure you will work upon that and do some research before making and full committment, Though as you say their is a 30-day money back term which is excellent just in-case it does not work out.

    Remember to always read the TOS in regards to refunds aswell.

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    Thanks for the help again, and I'll continue to research my options. Thanks all for the great feedback and help!

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    I don't see the need of a VPS for your site. You should be fine in a shared host as long as you realized that you wont ever get "unlimited" bandwidth in any plan (shared, vps or dedicated)
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    I realize that Jedito, and its ok. I need the space more then anything, as we have a new release that we would like to get out soon. The defined space of a VPS as well as the resources of such might be needed in this case.

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    A VPS would suit you best mate, purely because the resources used when you peak at 100 users would be pretty decent. A VPS gives you the guaranteed resources so if your site peaks at double that if not more, on the right VPS there won't be anyone kicking up a stink.

    Good luck in your search.

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    Thanks Keen.

    Also, anyone care to explain which resources they mean when they state that you cannot use more then 25% of the resources for more then 90 seconds? How would I find that out specifically?

    Thanks, still kind of new to the whole "host my own community" sort of deal.

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    You cannot use more than 25% of cpu/ram for more than 90 seconds. So basically if you had a 4GHz cpu and 4GB ram on the server you cant use more than 1GHz cpu and 1GB ram for more than 90 seconds straight, for example.

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    Alright, thanks again Keen. (And they're transfering me to an IT department at work? O.o) Anyways....thanks all. Questions answered.

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    Since your forum is very small at current, not many users online you'll be fine with a shared host. Since you have a budget of upto $20/month you have opened yourself upto a good range of decent hosts - although you probably won't have to pay that much per month. You'll be able to find a host with your wanted diskspace too since it isn't too much along with your budget being high. There isn't any need to get a VPS yet; when you do need to it is easy enough to upgrade to one with that host or another.

    If you go through the offers section here on WHT, then come back with some which you like; find reviews (through searching here / google).
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    Sam, this would still apply when he peaks over 100 users online?

    Quoted by OP:

    Anyways, we always have at least 5 users online, and up to around a few hundred at any given time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeenInvestor View Post
    Sam, this would still apply when he peaks over 100 users online?

    Quoted by OP:
    I assume they were mistaken since they later stated that they only have 26 users registered on the forum; along with their stats being very low.

    Let me see, in the last month our statistics where:

    4gb Transfer used
    700/1000 Megs space used (500 is for IPB 3...so 200 MB used)

    And while we only have 26 users, most of those users are online quite often. So if anyone has a solution that might work for us, that'd be great.
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    Point taken, my apologies.

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    If you go for a vps check if it's managed or unmanaged.

    If it's unmanaged you are responsible for managing everything, the control panel (if one is installed), updating the operating system (if it's a xen vps), firewall, securing your vps etc.,

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    Also, anyone care to explain which resources they mean when they state that you cannot use more then 25% of the resources for more then 90 seconds? How would I find that out specifically?
    Ask the host. I know of one with a policy like that, that has a section in the control panel where you can see your momentary usage level (CPU, memory, inodes). I don't know if all hosts have that though, I haven't tried them all.

    Anyways, we always have at least 5 users online, and up to around a few hundred at any given time.
    If you really expect the few hundred to become a reality, your budget may be an issue. But your current usage suggests that "regular" shared hosting should do the job just fine.

    A VPS would suit you best mate, purely because the resources used when you peak at 100 users would be pretty decent. A VPS gives you the guaranteed resources so if your site peaks at double that if not more, on the right VPS there won't be anyone kicking up a stink.
    A low budget VPS is severely upper limited in terms of computing resources. From that POV, a well managed shared hosting environment with sufficient left over room to handle the eventual spikes from a user or two, could be a better option. A VPS that bogs down under the sudden load is about as good as a suspended shared hosting account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldcdc View Post
    A low budget VPS is severely upper limited in terms of computing resources. From that POV, a well managed shared hosting environment with sufficient left over room to handle the eventual spikes from a user or two, could be a better option. A VPS that bogs down under the sudden load is about as good as a suspended shared hosting account.
    This is very true. But if he can push himself to $35 a mo as previously mentioned, theres no reason he can't get a decent VPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowe View Post
    Alright, I'm running a fairly large Forum community. There's a few requirements to the forums I'm using (IPB 3.0.x) posted below. I'd like something with unmetered *if such a thing is possible* bandwidth, but don't care about the space (So long as it can hold 5 gigs or so). Also need a database that doesn't have a limit (I think anyways, not entirely sure how this works still....perhaps someone can explain how forums use databases? meh, doesn't really matter I suppose.) Anyways, we always have at least 5 users online, and up to around a few hundred at any given time. A host that supports that kind of traffic is a must. Also must be a month-to-month plan. I don't like the 'pay up front for 12 months' thing, because I'm stuck and if I try to cancel all of the fees come up and such, just not the way I work sorry.

    Alright, so the IPB requirements for those who don't already know:

    1. PHP 5.2
    2. -GD3 Extension
    3. -SPL Extention
    4. -DOM XML Extension
    5. -JSON Extension
    6. MSQL 5.0+


    Any help appreciated!
    I think you will always be disappointed with a host between $5 and $20 a month if you get a few hundred at a time. You wouldn't have problems if it was a steady 5-10 people at a time but large numbers of visitors is when you might get suspended for "CPU usage", etc.

    My suggestion is to go with a semi-dedicated or "application hosting" as they call it. A VPS is also an alternative if you can manage it yourself but the cost may be higher than semi-dedicated if you get management and a control panel with it. Cheap VPS' can be even worse than regular shared hosting.
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