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    Looking for a host for MediaWiki site

    Hello,

    I want to build a site using MediaWiki. (Thanks to people here who suggested it was good wiki software for what I needed.)

    However, I'm having trouble finding a good host that offers it. For example, I've contacted about half of the "honest hosts" from this page: http://whreviews.com/honest-hosts.htm and I'm getting the response that they don't offer it (and one person even told me he hadn't heard of it!). A google search pulls up hosts that have quite a few bad reviews (like Siteground), and other hosts that people don't seem to know much about (Maiahost, A2hosting).

    So, does anyone out there have a suggestion re a good host that runs, and supports, MediaWiki? Is there someone out there who uses MediaWiki who could recommend a host?

    Many thanks to all.

    Judith

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    Any host with PHP5 and MySQL5 should be able to run MediaWiki - it's not any special requirements.

    It will run on a HostGator shared plan.
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    Hello Judith,

    Any webhost that supports as mike said PHP5 and MySQL5 should be able to support MediaWiki. There are several webhosts available and I should re-emphasise and make that alot of webhosts that can support your requirements.

    Cannot say I have heard of Maiahost but have heard about A2hosting though have never had any hosting with them to recommend them.

    Have you tried searching the Shared Hosting Section of the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    Any host with PHP5 and MySQL5 should be able to run MediaWiki - it's not any special requirements.

    It will run on a HostGator shared plan.
    I just double-checked with their live support person about this, and was told "We don't offer the software itself but that does not mean we can not support the 3rd party script."

    But I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to go with a host that offers a MediaWiki install, and that would therefore presumably understand it better?

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    Hello Judith,

    It means that they do not have an auto-installer for example that could install this for you and they might or do not give support on it being a 3rd party application. Though however, You could possibly download this and install it yourself, But you must realise that you would need to upgrade it yourself each time.

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    Hi, Sean,

    So it still sounds like I'd be better off with a host that knows MediaWiki and offers it to its clients?

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    So it still sounds like I'd be better off with a host that knows MediaWiki and offers it to its clients?
    Hello Judith,

    This is up to you, You do not have to but you also need to look at if "they even support it". They may offer it in auto-installers though does not necessarily mean they can provide full or any support to you for it.

    If you do not know how to install or download etc then maybe it is best to find a host that can install it for you or find a host that offers it through Installatron or Fantastico "if they do."

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    I will try searching the Shared Hosting section. I'm really new, and didn't even know there was such a section!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by judith_in_ottawa View Post
    But I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to go with a host that offers a MediaWiki install, and that would therefore presumably understand it better?
    Not necessarily - maybe a host whose niche is MediaWiki hosting (as in, it's all they do) but I don't think you need that.

    There is a great editor add-on for media wiki but I cannot remember what it is off hand - when I think of it I'll post it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post

    There is a great editor add-on for media wiki but I cannot remember what it is off hand - when I think of it I'll post it up.

    You means this? - http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/

    It certainly makes creating and editing new pages much easier than the current tags it uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_EZPZ View Post
    You means this? - http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/

    It certainly makes creating and editing new pages much easier than the current tags it uses.

    Who told you about that again Mike?
    Yeah that's the one - I was sort of hoping you'd follow up my post. I keep thinking it's "fsckeditor" and not "fckeditor" lol
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    Here's a newbie question. I can see that MediaWiki would be easy to install on my computer, but how do I install on a server that's renting me space? Do I ftp the install program over, and then use command line or shell access to run the program?

    What's puzzling me is how I can install a program on someone else's server. Wouldn't they be worried about me putting on a program that might damage their security or something?

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    Hi Judith,

    You are correct, you would FTP the files to your server and initiate the install by SSH (shell) or a web installer interface (depending on the script).

    Any decent hosting company will have very secure servers and setup properly to prevent most types of problems. When you have access to SSH it is with limited permissions and those will prevent you from installing anything dangerous.

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    I've just found this page on mediawiki.org, which I find interesting:

    MediaWiki-ready hosts: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_...ki-ready_hosts

    And thank you for the mediaWiki editor. It looks great.
    Last edited by judith_in_ottawa; 07-13-2009 at 08:41 PM. Reason: url doesn't all show

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    I have only come across 1 host that explicitly offers mediawiki installation for you but its reputation is meh, so I won't mention it.

    I just started hosting a mediawiki site a month ago on Downtownhost(pm me if you would like to see it). Just follow the installation guide on the mediawiki.org site. Everything could be done via the cpanel. If you need help such as generating sitemaps or suggestions of mediawiki admin book, useful extensions, etc feel free to pm me.

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    MediaWiki isn't on any installers but there are other alternatives. I find MediaWiki the best, easy enough to install by yourself, will be supported on any shared host.

    If you want to look through the offers section, then come back here with a list which you fancy for opinions; or to search for reviews on WHT/Google.
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    installatron has mediawiki

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    Install the latest version. The one thing I don't like about those autoinstaller is the fact that the version they install is not the latest. Also mediawiki requires alot of extension that makes it much more better and for those you will have to modify the files yourself. Don't expect any host to help you with this. I recommend doing everything yourself by hand and so you can learn stuff such as backing up your database etc. Don't trust anyone other then yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darvil View Post
    Install the latest version. The one thing I don't like about those autoinstaller is the fact that the version they install is not the latest. Also mediawiki requires alot of extension that makes it much more better and for those you will have to modify the files yourself. Don't expect any host to help you with this. I recommend doing everything yourself by hand and so you can learn stuff such as backing up your database etc. Don't trust anyone other then yourself.
    That all makes perfect sense (and agrees with what everyone else has been recommending to me). So I'll follow your advice. It's pretty slow going right now, but I'll build this wall brick by brick.

    Thanks again to all. Judith

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    If you run into a host that doesn't support MediaWiki, I'd be very wary about their expertise. As pointed out, it requires basic PHP and mySQL that practically all hosts support these days.
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    Installatron has MediaWiki in it's scripts list (I could swear I already posted here, but alas). It also supports the latest version. If you find a host with Installatron, it will make it easier for you to install it, although, MediaWiki is already a pretty easy thing to install, like most scripts.

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    MediaWiki is part of the Fantastico so the web hosts that provide cPanel / Fantastico offer MediaWiki. There are others that has added MediaWiki to their own proprietary software, not as a part of Fantastico. Why don't you contact a few providers and to speak to them about customization of MediaWiki.
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    MediaWiki is part of the Fantastico so the web hosts that provide cPanel / Fantastico offer MediaWiki.
    Sorry, it's not among Fantastico's scripts: http://www.netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php

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    It is however, part of Installatron's default scripts (http://installatron.com/)

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    Thanks, folks. I now have 3 hosts I feel comfortable working with, and all have assured me that MediaWiki will not be a problem. I'll tell you how it works out! And I'll be going with installing the script myself and keeping it updated as Darvil suggested. The info here has been really excellent. I feel so much better prepared than the first time I chose a host (Hostpapa, which I posted about, which was a sad but learning experience for me).

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    Best of luck in choosing a host out of those three. Great to see that you are installing and managing the program yourself, rather than relying on an Installer.

    Make sure to post back / create a review when you've been with them for a while to let us know how it has all gone .
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    I would go with a VPS. Maybe check out inmotion hosting.

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