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07-13-2009, 12:33 AM #1WHT Addict
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Web Hosting Suggestions, Recommendations, Opinions
Need a shared hosting account, less than 500MB storage, less than 25000MB bandwidth (easily). Needs:
unlimited subdomains
unlimited addon domains
cPanel
multiple email accounts
ftp access
php5
mySQL5
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Would love a secured server with no downtime; friendly, knowledgable, quality technical support; reasonable prices; and a low tolerance for extensive spamming on shared accounts (so my emails actually make it to my users). Wishful thinking: find one that actually still believes that the 'customer is #1" and should be treated that way .
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07-13-2009, 12:44 AM #2Web Hosting Guru
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For what you are asking, it is very reasonable. For all the things you are asking most providers should be able to meet your needs. The resources wanted are low, along with many of the things you want given as a standard.
The best thing to do is to go around the forum searching and looking in the others forum, along with trying to get information on any hosts you; either by asking in this thread or finding other review threads/ how they handled situations on here. For your support needs in a personal manner, you can usually find that the smaller hosts rather than the big names will be able to provide this.
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07-13-2009, 12:50 AM #3Web Hosting Industry Expert
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You may have a hard time finding such a small plan as most hosts have jumped on the mega-huge-plan or the unlimited plan bandwagon.
Not too hard to find.
This one may give you some trouble.
Very common - I don't see any issues.
If multiple is 2~20 or so then you shouldn't have any issues but if you want "unlimited" you may have a hard time finding this.
I don't know of any paid hosts that don't offer FTP.
I don't know many hosts that haven't upgraded to PHP5.
Same as the PHP5 statement.
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One would hope this is the goal of *any* web hosting provider however in a shared environment it's impossible to say that a server won't go down (such as if a user uploads a poorly coded script that starts consuming all CPU available) however 99.9% uptime is very attainable. I don't know that I'd go with a provider if I didn't feel there server wasn't secured myself...
You will have better luck finding this with a smaller provider although personally I always found HostGator support to be friendly and knowledgeable even with their size.
It depends on what you consider "reasonable" if you want to post a budget then that will help quite a bit in giving any advice.
Ideally all providers would be this way but there's no real way of knowing without testing the waters imho.
They are out there - but you're not going to find that kind of service at most of your big hosts in my experiences. Just make sure to make contact with any potential host you are interested in and test the waters - do try to speak with the support department and not just the sales department if you are able to however in some smaller companies the employees may do both functions
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07-13-2009, 01:00 AM #4WHT Addict
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07-13-2009, 01:28 AM #5Web Hosting Industry Expert
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You shouldn't have a hard time find a provider that will fit your needs within a budget of $10/month. You may even be able to save some money if you are able to go yearly (many providers offer a discount on annual subscriptions due to lower transaction fees). Do make sure that if you go yearly that you trust the provider (maybe go month-to-month for a couple of months first, and make sure they offer pro-rated refunds).
Do make sure to look for reviews of any provider that catches your eye and then as much research into the provider and their history as you can.
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07-13-2009, 01:33 AM #6Web Hosting Guru
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Your budget is very resonable for finding hosting, you'll probably be able to spend less on hosting since your needs are quite low in comparison to your budget.
Take a look through the offers forum and the rest of WHT to make sure that you make a good choice.
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07-13-2009, 12:29 PM #7WHT Addict
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I have been doing some thinking this morning about hosting. Been checking HostGater out only because I could pay for a dedicated IP address and am hoping that would stop my emails to my forum users from getting placed in the spam boxes (shared hosting cause this).
My thoughts are that the foundation has to be absolutely square and level BEFORE you build the house. So, my first place to view is the datacenter where each of these hosting companies are buying rack space. The next would be the infrastructure of communication lines going into and out of that data center. Am I right???
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07-13-2009, 12:35 PM #8Web Hosting Industry Expert
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That is if they have their servers configured to send email out on your dedicated IP - most do not and I believe HostGator has separate mailservers if memory serves correctly.
You could go that detailed if you feel the need to invest that much time into the research of each and every company that piques your interest.█ Michael Denney - MDDHosting.com - Proudly hosting more than 37,700 websites since 2007.
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07-13-2009, 12:44 PM #9WHT Addict
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BTW Thanks for replying to my questions. I really appreciate it!!
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07-13-2009, 12:50 PM #11Junior Guru
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Yea that is understandable, but your needs/budget is easily matched, or can be givin cheaper, because a host provides you with your needs for cheaper dont always mean crappier service, some host's just can, also to be safe since it is very inportant to you like a few people above said take a peek around, see some older posts etc, if you think you found a company research them or chat live if they offer it, get to know things etc, Good luck with things
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07-13-2009, 12:54 PM #12Web Hosting Industry Expert
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07-13-2009, 02:32 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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If uptime is your primary concern then you should look for famed hosts like rochen and pair networks. They don't do unlimited addon domains, but how many domains do you actually need?
Should I have to switch to a ~$10 provider, it would be with medialayer or precisioneffect. They use directadmin(took me only 10 minutes to be familiar with) and non unlimited addon domains, but its hard to dismiss their reputation over the years.
Another alternative would be downtownhost, with quite impressive uptime reports and pretty much fit all your requirements. You can view them here under "Uptime Stats" http://www.downtownhost.com/helpdesk/index.php (hope they won't mind me linking that page)
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07-13-2009, 04:20 PM #14WHT Addict
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Talked to Host Gator. Their TOS about sending out emails may be a problem. I send out a monthly newsletter, with over a thousand forum members. I can torque it down, and put out 500 at a time, but their TOS does not seem to allow that.
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07-13-2009, 04:22 PM #15Web Hosting Industry Expert
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As long as you don't go over the hourly limit you should be fine - at least that was the policy while I was with them.
Some providers will even raise the mailing limits on a per-domain basis upon justification (such as newsletters) but then again some providers won't and others don't even know how.█ Michael Denney - MDDHosting.com - Proudly hosting more than 37,700 websites since 2007.
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07-13-2009, 04:36 PM #16WHT Addict
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Their mailing policy says that you cannot send out say 500 emails at once. Which is okay, I can send out a group at a time, with 256 being my current largest group. That is what I currently do to stay within my host's guidelines of no more than 1000 in an hour.
The way I am reading it though, I would have to wait until the middle of the night to even do that, since I have over their limit of 900 members on the list:
http://www.hostgator.com/mailpolicy.shtml
I don't think I am reading it wrong. I hate to use phplist, because my forums are phpbb and the combination of the two, running together, caused a major security breach this year. So, stopped using phplist. If most hosting accounts are like this, I may have problems.
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07-13-2009, 05:04 PM #17Web Hosting Guru
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If you steer away from hosts which offer "unlimited" you will find more lax restrictions on things such as sending e-mails at mass. Since your diskspace/bandwidth requirements are very low you have a good budget to spend on your needs, rather than going for something which you will never use 10x over.
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07-13-2009, 05:29 PM #18Web Hosting Industry Expert
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Really the limitation on emails per hour isn't a limitation in place due to unlimited/overselling but is in place due to spammers and faudsters that sign up and then try to send out as many emails on their 125k email list as they can before they get shut down.
Putting a limit in place helps to curb this type of behavior and limits the damage it could do - most hosts that have limits in place such as these will raise the limits on a per-domain basis if you need bit but I would be scared to go with a host that had "unlimited" emails per hour because that's just asking for a crash and/or RBL listings. Even if the customers are all good - occasionally an account will get compromised due to their password being shared somewhere else, one of those FTP trojans, or something else - and then boom an account in good standing for months or years is suddenly sending spam unknowingly.
I've always personally found having limits and knowing what they are is always better than having "no limits" because there are always limits - you just can't see them.█ Michael Denney - MDDHosting.com - Proudly hosting more than 37,700 websites since 2007.
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07-14-2009, 08:13 PM #19WHT Addict
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Well, I looked, I shopped, I weighed the benefits of cheap, unlimited, everything but the kitchen sink, and regulated; and chose regulated. I know, I don't like that word either, but that is what it is.
I chose MDD Hosting
The Pros: MDD uses their plan levels, and prices, to limit the server load. The more databases and add-on domains you have, the more you pay.
The Cons: MDD uses their plan levels, and prices, to limit the server load. The more databases and add-on domains you have, the more you pay.
Yup, folks, it is a true dichotomy!
I wanted more addons and db's, but I have to 'pay the piper for them'. I even tried to get Mike to 'bend the rules for me', to no avail. But, I also understand that this does give me an opportunity to be on a server that is not overloaded. At least, I am praying that this is how it works. So, I will get back to you in the future and give you a review.
I have been on the web, in one way or another, since the 80's (DOS days). Hopefully I will be able to give you a well thought out and thorough review.
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